Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #19

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“We really don't know how extensive the fight was," Cohen, a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at Weill Cornell Medical College of Cornell University and staff member of New York-Presbyterian Hospital, told Fox News. "… What we know is that when they were pulled over by the police, she was very upset, and they were both minimizing their argument. I think that's clear. She appears to try to blame it on her OCD, and he talks about his muddy shoes. She also says she's under a lot of stress."

Cohen added that "such an imbalance of the emotional state" between the pair as seen in officers' bodycam footage "does raise a red flag" because Petito "doesn't just look like someone who's having a panic attack or who's anxious."

“She looks scared." he said. "She looks very overwhelmed. … She was emoting so much that it was very clear that there had been an incident and there had been a problem of some kind that she was struggling with."

"People with OCD are not violent. OCD is not a risk factor for violence. If there was an altercation between them, certainly OCD would not be fodder for something that would lead her to hurt him," he explained. "It could cause an argument. If she does have OCD … he might get upset with her, or she might get upset with him, but people with OCD are not violent."

"They're going on a van trip cross-country. They're in the desert. Those are some settings in which young people tend to use substances that can make them have an altered mental state. They can feel overwhelmed. They can have a bad trip. And it could lead them to act irrationally. It could also lead them to get into an altercation," he said.
Gabby Petito case: Forensic psychiatrist weighs in on Utah officers' bodycam footage, Laundrie family
 
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I don't understand what would be meant by a "hard drive". A box thingy with data? A thingy without the box that you installed inside the computer? Wasn't that like, 30-40 years ago? I thought we were onto thumb drives or Cloud? Or are some folks using "hard drive" to refer to a Windows PC?

Laptops and desktop PCs still have hard drives. Some of us avoid "clouds" like the plague because we don't want to store our personal files and data on a server that is not under our direct control. So, yes, it is probably a little boxy external thing or a piece of internal hardware.
 
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Destroying

Destroying the pins will not destroy the data, a standard drive format will not destroy the data, taking a magnet to the drive will not destroy the data. Your average computer user isn't going to know how to PERMANENTLY destroy a drive so that nothing can be recovered. Source: My career is in IT Security.

Thank you for the clarity! I don’t know what he’s done after that, I don’t ask many questions. I’ve only seen him do that one step and that’s that. However you do have more expertise than my husband in the security regard, his former coworkers would since that was their particular field.
 
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it is possible LE did not want to disclose the real date or content of the last text, so they put out a red herring. For example, if Brian had ever been interviewed, he may have said something contrary like "yeah i know she texted her mom on the 30th..." when LE knows the phone was already dead by then.

For some reason this comment made me realize if BL was a true crime buff, like has been stated somewhere (confirmation unknown) then he could be on this forum checking in on these threads. That's a weird thought.
 
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Im new here so please forgive if I'm doing this incorrectly or if someone has already discussed this here. While watching the video of Gabby's van spotted by couple on trail, you can clearly see the Van's back door was open and is closed while onlookers approach. Start at about 1:25 and watch through 1:45. I watched it on my big screen to be sure and it seems so clear to me that that door is open and then opened a little more and then quickly shut before the couple gets too close.

 
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I think someone else determined earlier that the only way to get to Colter Bay from there was by the road -- that there aren't really any trails that would lead in that direction. That definitely seems to be the case from what I can tell on Google Maps.

I know nothing about that area but just looking at images of the area just between where they were camped and the dam I don't see why you would need a trail unless its marshy or those creeks are faster than they look in the helicopter footage. Not like trying to go off trail up in those mountains or in the Smokies. Looking at that route along 191 it looks like some place you could graze cattle. Someone set me straight. I am not talking about up in the mountains, just down there in the flats.
 
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"Things that might be present with the remains like personal items, clothing, jewelry, anything like that that can give some confirmation," said Dr. Vega.

Photographs of Petito showed she had unique tattoos on her fingers and her inner arm. Dr. Vega said it's possible these have already been matched by investigators at this point which led them to extend condolences to the family. But, they are awaiting definitive word from the coroner.

"That would include potentially using x-rays, fingerprints, dental records or DNA to confirm the identification," Dr. Vega said.

Dr. Vega said examiners would be looking to find signs of blunt force trauma, possibly from a fall or from the impact of some sort of a weapon. They will also look to find signs of asphyxiation and any injuries to the neck area and broken bones near the windpipe. Finally, he said examiners will look to see if there are any signs of ingesting substances, which could have resulted in a drug overdose.

You don't want to take anything off the table in terms of the things that you are considering. The real question would be with all those things that they're going to be looking at how much will they actually be able to identify," he said.

Investigators believe the body may have been out in the elements for weeks, so examiners could be dealing with extensive deterioration and decomposition.

"That just makes it harder. Obviously the changes that can occur over time make the identification of both natural disease processes and injuries, either one of which could be involved with a death, much harder to identify," Vega said.

The process of trying to positively identify a body can take anywhere from 24 to 48 hours if examiners don't encounter any insurmountable challenges. Dr. Vega said a toxicology analysis, which is also a standard part of the examination process, could take a longer time even if a particular case is expedited.
How coroner will determine if body found was Gabby Petito | wtsp.com
 
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I don't understand what would be meant by a "hard drive". A box thingy with data? A thingy without the box that you installed inside the computer? Wasn't that like, 30-40 years ago? I thought we were onto thumb drives or Cloud? Or are some folks using "hard drive" to refer to a Windows PC?
A lot of youtubers use the big boxy hard drives you speak of because of the large file sizes from all the videos they take. They are a bit more sleek now though.
 
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For those asking about the hard drive in the search warrant, the warrant states it is a Western Digital wdbajp0050bbk. You can see photos and videos of them on Amazon and eBay. Warrant states the hard drive is located in the evidence storage room. I would assume they found it in the van and needed a separate warrant to access the info on it.

https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws...ant-2021-sw000442nc-09-17-2021-1632165383.pdf
 
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Was the gun case you all noticed in the body cam photo of the van for a tiny hand gun or something larger?
 
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Exactly!

"The text message sent from her daughter’s phone on 30 August said: “No service in Yosemite”. Yosemite, in California’s Sierra Nevada mountains, is 800 miles from her last known location in Wyoming. Ms Schmidt told the Daily Mail she was certain the text was faked and suspected her Mr Laundrie may have sent it to intentionally mislead the family."

Everything we know about the mysterious disappearance of Gabby Petito

I suspect that one (or both) of them was confusing the parks' names (unfortunately, some people do that, grrr!). If they know which one of them had this bad habit, it might be significant. If they both did, not so much.
 
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