Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #26

[nhmemorymaker]

Date of death is when it is officially pronounced by the ME or the Coroner. They couldn't have pronounced it any sooner, because they didn't get to her until the 19th.

But I know MEs can establish death to be "xx" hours or days at times, based on insects, blood coagulation, stomach contents etc..... Wouldn't that change the date of death .... to some degree?

 

[pittie_mcclure]

Not sure if you consider Brian helping her get a job one of those less-than-truths. In any case I agree with you. A lot of non-facts being presented as facts all around.

people have stated over and over again that he didn’t work and was living off her. We know they both worked at Public and the juice bar. We know his parents let them live in their home- assumption is to save money so they could travel. Sounds like both BL and GP were in the same boat when it came to finances and living with parents.

i can say those things as what seem to be facts of the case (i don’t know they didn’t have to pay living expenses while there) and ALSO think he is guilty of killing her. Wild how that works.

 

[RickshawFan]

Thank you. This seems like a significant detail to me. The bridge offered an easy route from the van to where GP was found. Is that because they were camping there and something happened leading to her death? Or was it an easy route to carry her body?

My speculation: she was running away from him, he caught up with her, and killed her on the spot. No moving the body was necessary. I'm not sure, in this case, whether the bridge detail would be important.

 

[dacjess]

Sigh. Around here, you have to have hard evidence. Yes circumstantial evidence is included but if there is a plausible alternate scenario or explanation, case is thrown out. Doesn’t even go to court.
There is no string motive here. That they had an on again, off again relationship? Happens a lot. DV incident? It’s on tape and despite all the reviews, LE did not determine it serious enough to charge. Restaurant rage? Happens a lot. It’s difficult to get DV convictions without documented charges of a history.
If coroner could not place time of death, anyone could have killed her. She could have met someone and gone off. They could have broken up and she disappeared while he stalked off so he just took van. I can come up with too many scenarios where someone else did it.
Do I think he did it? Yes. But his silence and parents getting an attorney which are huge red flags are not permitted to be used against him. That’s a huge advantage his Defence team will have—that no one has said anything, him or his parents. Though now that this is a murder case, his parents may have to cough up so info that they did not have to when it was just a missing persons case. I’m not sure whether the 5th will cover their unwillingness to talk. I don’t think it will

I’m not sure if you’re aware you replied to a lawyer to debate what constitutes evidence in a court of law?

 

[DAWGmama]

We have to consider that Gabby's parents, siblings or friends might read this site. For that reason it is better to avoid creating elaborate theories of what might have happened not based on facts as it could cause the family and friends great distress in contemplating a theory that is completely false. Eventually the facts of what likely happened will be known, insofar as what LE has been able to piece together.

This is also a true crime/sleuthing site and that's exactly what most of us are here for. Theories, conjecture, maybes, possibilities...the works. I seriously doubt the victims' family is lurking here at this time. I think they have bigger things on their plate to be honest. This thread has like 25 new threads exactly BECAUSE Ppl r discussing theories, elaborate or otherwise...that's kinda what this site is for. I'll say MOO but that's kinda fact. ‍♀

 

[cady]

I also want to know why he hitchhiked such a short distance for $200 and then wants out very abruptly?!

That offer of 200 bucks is very bizarre, driver declined but thought it was weird, too. I can't think of a reason he would offer that, unless she misunderstood the amount. jmo

 

[kittythehare]

@nikthehat
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Lawyer for #BrianLaundrie tells me via text “I do not know where Brian is or if Brian is alive.” When asked about why he cancelled press conference: “It was canceled because it was no longer in the best interest of the clients.”

https://twitter.com/nikthehat/status/1440823572126003200?s=20

I'm reading this as the FBI headed a freight train of lies off at the pass.
Call me cynical or evil.

 

[jamicat]

This is what I think happened. The Mustang was his cache. His parents didn't want to retrieve the Mustang "in case he needed it". Heck, if he needed a ride, he could call or go down the road a bit to get a signal; he wouldn't require a car. But, he would need the car if it was full of groceries, fuel, etc.

I don’t think so. I think he drove Mustang to Preserves and disappeared Either into the Preserves, or set off on foot or with a friend’s help elsewhere.

I don’t think his parents reported him missing as a ruse. They lost a lot of protection with that report. House and cars snd everything became fair game to LE. I think they are genuinely afraid he harmed himself.

 

[TUTUFUN]

Ownership belongs to the person named on the title...period. End of story.
The owner is also the only person legally liable for any 'tort' relating to the van.
Money that BL put into the van, as a non owner, would be considered a 'gift' to Gabby.
That he slept in the van does NOT convey ownership. It simply means he was a GUEST of the legal owner, Gabby.
That Gabby lived in a house owned by the Laundries does not make her a part owner of the house, for the same reason that BL living in, and contributing money to the van doesn't make BL a co-owner of the van.

I do not become part owner of your house if I crash on you couch for six months and give you money for incidentals. I am nothing more than a house guest.

If he is named as a primary or rated driver on the insurance policy, he could have some liability in a 'tort' action. But in those cases, it's generally only the owner of the van that is sued.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

I also want to know why he hitchhiked such a short distance for $200 and then wants out very abruptly?!

One of the theories (and this is all speculation) that’s been floating around is that he went on a hike to create an alibi for himself/clear his head and then wanted to hitchhike as close to the van as possible so he offered $200 because he was desperate to get back. Then, when he realizes they are driving down the road that goes away from Spread Creek rather than towards it, he freaks out and asks to get out of the vehicle.

 

[Veronica Sawyer]

people have stated over and over again that he didn’t work and was living off her. We know they both worked at Public and the juice bar. We know his parents let them live in their home- assumption is to save money so they could travel. Sounds like both BL and GP were in the same boat when it came to finances and living with parents.

i can say those things as what seem to be facts of the case (i don’t know they didn’t have to pay living expenses while there) and ALSO think he is guilty of killing her. Wild how that works.

It certainly appears that way IMO too.

 

[sun16]

Did the neighbors see him after the three day trip with his parents?

The interview I saw of them (with Martha on Fox), they didn’t say. They are new to the neighborhood (this summer) and noticed some things, but didn’t know the L’s at all. So their recall was limited. But they did share what they know with police.

 

[RickshawFan]

If August 27th is being narrowed down as the potential day she passed, then maybe the man in the background of the youtube video "digging" wasn't actually digging but doing something far more sinister? It does not seem as though her body was found buried

It's possible BL tried to dig but couldn't. The ground might be hard and not be "diggable". Or it might be super sandy.

 

[kittythehare]

The updated statement from the restaurant does NOT state the date of that incident.

No,but the couple who saw them there did.

 

[SouthAussie]

Am I the only one that thinks the story from the TikToker who was behind him on the 26th and the Restaurant story on the 27th can't exist together?

Agreed. It is very difficult to put these two things together. I was getting the impression that Gabby was murdered on 26th August. Especially after the sighting of BL driving alone, and acting confused and 'weirdly'.

 

[jamicat]

I'm reading this as the FBI headed a freight train of lies off at the pass.
Call me cynical or evil.

I believe the attorney. That’s his job. To only do what is advantageous to client but he isn’t going outright lie like that. Though I do not know who he is representing; BL or parents.

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

I don't know that it's all that urgent. Yes, he's likely a killer, but he's probably not a threat to society in general.

Hmm I'm not so sure. He will be absolutely desperate at this point. Desperate people are potentially very dangerous.

 

[hey-Debbie]

Each state is different as far as titling vehicles. I am a DMV supervisor in a Midwestern state. Most scenarios, unless there is a TOD on the title, the vehicle must go through probate. In a situation where someone is married and their spouse is not listed on the title as a joint owner or as a TOD, the state will allow one vehicle to be transferred to the remaining spouse. So say the couple has 3 vehicles listed only in the deceased spouse's name without a TOD (transfer on death). One vehicle can be transferred to the remaining spouse and the other two vehicles have to go through probate. Even if there is a will involved, as my state does not recognize wills as far as transferring ownership of vehicles. The validity of a will is determined by the probate court.
I am not familiar with Florida's laws but if BL isn't on the title as a joint owner it is highly unlikely that he has any claim to the van.

Very interesting and important to know in any situation. I did not know this but makes total sense.

 

[bellyup]

Well, if you're almost 24, work an entry-level job at Publix, and live with your parents, you ARE financially reliant on them.

No one said it was an entry level job. Publix actually pays decent especially if you have been there for awhile.We have no idea how long Brian had worked there or what his wage was or that he was financially reliant on his parents.

There is a LOT of "opinion" of BL being touted as fact here. IMO

 

[Mike in WNY]

Does anyone have the license plate number of the infamous silver Mustang convertible? Despite my best efforts, I failed at finding it myself.