Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #48

[Nikynoo]

Death Penalty would then possibly be on the table.

Some countries do not extradite if death penalty is on the table: example: Mexico, Canada.

He flees to those countries with death penalty on the table for his alleged crimes, the USA will not get him.

But it would depend which state tries him, would it not? If charged with murder would this not be in the state the offence occurred in?

 

[Sleuthypsych]

I wonder if they were asked to? People have been so responsive to them. I cried when they used that to shine light on other cases. What a class act!

I was wondering the same. Maybe FBI felt that people would share leads with them or put some pressure on the case.

 

[Speculaytor]

I wonder if BL is even in Florida? It would be logical for LE to search De Soto Park where he camped with family, and also the nature reserve where the car was found, so why would he stay there?

 

[Bertha96]

Traveling requires money. They couldn’t even afford a hotel in Moab. Also, COVID restrictions limit some travel. Anywhere he flew would require a passport. He also would be unlikely to know other countries well enough to hide out and survive, again money. He knows national parks like the back of his hand. Lastly, I would think getting a legit looking fake passport would be challenging otherwise the feds would know exactly where he went.

Good points and air travel is easily traced by authorities and there are a lot of cameras in airports. If he has changed his appearance it would be on the news as soon as LE got the footage, showing everyone what he currently looks like. IMO.

 

[Sassafrass]

The FBI charged Brian with “unauthorized use of a debit card/PIN”, so why didn’t they also charge him with “unauthorized use of a vehicle”?

There is no known history of Brian driving the van alone without Gabby. When BL returned to Florida from August 17-23, he didn’t take the van with him, he got on an airplane to get home while the van was parked outside the hotel where Gabby was staying at.

Simply because they have not yet does not mean that they could not now or in the future.

Bottom line: they didn't and don't need more than one federal felony indictment/warrant to trigger search efforts. More than the existing is simply not necessary for the moment.

 

[PommyMommy]

Michael Shure on Twitter
If you think waiting outside a hearing room for a Member of Congress is dull (I don’t), try waiting in Florida for the parents of a person of interest to mow their lawn so you can ask questions that they won’t answer, from their neighbors lawn (tho the sky is nice)

[URL='https://twitter.com/michaelshure/status/1444391906885218305']4:00 PM · Oct 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone[/URL]

 

[Sleuthypsych]

I wonder if BL is even in Florida? It would be logical for LE to search De Soto Park where he camped with family, and also the nature reserve where the car was found, so why would he stay there?

One of the most disturbing things about the Moab stop to me besides the obvious is that BL basically learned how to outsmart LE. He isn’t dumb and knows to get the heck out of FL because he knows LE will believe his parents alibi just as they believed his story in Moab.

 

[WizardQuest]

But it would depend which state tries him, would it not? If charged with murder would this not be in the state the offence occurred in?

Wy carries the death penalty.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/...tions/project_blog/wyoming-legislature-votes/

 

[TheGardener]

Isn’t it odd that two different people who allegedly picked up Brian on the 29th didn’t notice significant injuries on him or saw him limp in any way? I think it will be hard to come up with the self-defense argument since he didn’t appear to be visibly hurt and in pain, just based on the two eye witness accounts.

Excellent! Good thinking!

 

[Bertha96]

But it would depend which state tries him, would it not? If charged with murder would this not be in the state the offence occurred in?

National Parks are considered federal territory, so in this particular case the federal statutes apply.

 

[Sassafrass]

Yes, I get all of this - but why not just come straight out with it and issue an arrest warrant for murder? I get that this maybe some sort of 'strategy' - but either they have the evidence that points to B as the killer, or they don't. And seeing as B is still a POI and the only arrest warrant is for fraud, I am guessing they are missing a piece of the jigsaw.

I am sure some savvy defence attorney would come up with a way to play this manhunt for fraud charges as prejudicial in any forthcoming murder trial. Or is that not a thing in the US?

Among other things, to mute the fluff and flurry.

And there's nothing prejudicial in charging a person with crimes that a grand jury believed were more than likely committed.

 

[Nikynoo]

Re-posting from the last thread:

State Attorney for Palm Beach on why Brian Laundrie hasn't been charged

Thank you!
ETA - interesting point about fleeing and I note that it is the FL prosecutor that was interviewed. B fled the state in which the crime was committed so in my mind, he was already a flight risk.

 

[PommyMommy]

Fox News on Twitter
BACK IN TIME: Fox News Digital obtains yearbook photos of Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie https://foxnews.com/live-news/brian-laundrie-search-sister…

[URL='https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1444386024046608392']3:37 PM · Oct 2, 2021·Twitter Web App[/URL]

 

[Sassafrass]

Someone replied that Gabby’s story has inspired her to leave an abusive 12-year relationship.

If nothing else, this is the good that comes from this whole situation.

 

[Sassafrass]

That is true and I have discussed that with people at other times, but felt it would just make this discussion cloudier. Somebody not involved with the search might be doing overtime to cover for peeps that are busing washing leaches from their bodies.

Allocation of resources is daily business in government, business, any organization.

 

[10ofRods]

MOO Because he communicated something to them that convinced them he was suicidal? Because the circus outside was gaining steam and they thought it would stop if they reported he wasn't in the home anymore? Because they got the all clear from the professionals they hired to get him into a 3rd world country? Because they had all the fake leads in place that would lead LE on a merry goose chase in the Reserve? Because the mother had a momentary flash of grief over the loss of GP and called LE to come clean?

Anyone want to add some more?

Yes. BL uses the same home address as his parents, and was known to be staying/sleeping there. Without explanation, he goes for a day hike and does not return. They wait, do not hear from him, become fearful for many reasons and call police. He was, at that point, missing from his home address and incommunicado with all known friends and family. So naturally, LE would take a missing persons report.

Everything else you're hypothesizing could also be true. I can add some more. They might not have had to hire professionals, they may have used friends and family members. The goal of the subterfuge would be to make LE think he perished in the swamp or killed himself.

For all we know, he walked rapidly along the path beneath the power lines to the other side and hopped in someone's car. Made a stop at a prearranged hotel (car driver has the key), changes his appearance, is taken to a harbor, where someone has a boat.

Pleasure cruise, hitting a port in a place where a pleasure craft would spend a day or three at harbor, having a BBQ (no one officially goes ashore, it's like camping), but chosen for reasons known only to the organizers of this escape.

Or...BL could have managed quite a bit on his own (which I think was more his style). By walking a fair distance without being seen, and then staging a US based disappearance.

It's interesting that his parents say they think he's still alive. They know him better than we do.

In that case, I'll imagine he's heading back out west, perhaps with a vehicle procured by family. He won't go to the AT, he can read. And he won't go too far north (soon it will be too cold). He's seen some of the most wide open spaces, and so many styles of living on the road he could try. Wants to go it alone.

 

[Balthazar]

Yes, I get all of this - but why not just come straight out with it and issue an arrest warrant for murder? I get that this maybe some sort of 'strategy' - but either they have the evidence that points to B as the killer, or they don't. And seeing as B is still a POI and the only arrest warrant is for fraud, I am guessing they are missing a piece of the jigsaw.

I am sure some savvy defence attorney would come up with a way to play this manhunt for fraud charges as prejudicial in any forthcoming murder trial. Or is that not a thing in the US?

A prosecutor cannot issue an arrest warrant for murder unless and until the autopsy is complete and there is a complete analysis of the crime scene to figure out what evidence there is and what took place and by whom and at that point, the prosecutor has to figure out what specific crimes to charge the person with. First degree, Aggravated First degree, Second degree, Aggravated Second degree, rape, abuse of a corpse, fleeing from justice, are among only a few of the various types charges that the prosecutor will have to decide among based on the evidence BEFORE the case is taken before a Grand Jury and an arrest warrant is issued IF the Grand Jury decides there is probable cause. In some cases the prosecutor may read the evidence and realize that there is not enough evidence to warrant taking the case to the Grand Jury and the case may sit in limbo unless and until new evidence is found.

 

[Nikynoo]

Isn’t it odd that two different people who allegedly picked up Brian on the 29th didn’t notice significant injuries on him or saw him limp in any way? I think it will be hard to come up with the self-defense argument if he didn’t appear to be visibly hurt and in pain, just based on the two eye witness accounts.

I cannot understand why he went back.

 

[Sassafrass]

Traveling requires money. They couldn’t even afford a hotel in Moab. Also, COVID restrictions limit some travel. Anywhere he flew would require a passport. He also would be unlikely to know other countries well enough to hide out and survive, again money. He knows national parks like the back of his hand. Lastly, I would think getting a legit looking fake passport would be challenging otherwise the feds would know exactly where he went. Based on his social media accounts he did not appear to be an international traveler. Most criminals hang within their comfort level.

Which supports my point that I do not see him as having had a grand premeditated plan.

 

[TheGardener]

Think of the Laundries (near and far) as the left side of a strip of Velcro and the FBI as the right side. Put both sides together and try to slide a dollar bill between them.
An illustration of the difficulties financing Brian's grand tour.
MOO