Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #51

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MOO. This has been and is and always be a trauma and tragedy for the Laundries. I do not believe for a second that they are carefree and fine. I’m sure they are suffering tremendously. As are GP’s families. It’s a I’ll wind that blows no one good and this one is a storm.

Initially, I was horrified and was ready to join the mob in the outcry against the Laundries. But with all the info here, I’ve come to realize that with all of the adult children I have, their break ups and coming home, I would not have ever suspected any of them killed a friend or left someone the way it appears BL did. It’s possible that the texts and emails apprising them that Gabby was missing came on the 10th , and these folks decided this was more than they can handle without advice and went to a trusted attorney.
From there, they did as told. They may not know anything Certainly LE would have charged them by now if they had an iota of proof that they did anything against the law.
BL is their son, and Im sure they are mourning him terribly in their own way. He may be dead and if not, he has a gauntlet to run for what he did. I do not condone lynch mobs. The story is not all out yet. They certainly would be advised to not go out searching for their son or doing anything to add to this circus scene. It takes away fro LE resources as the house mob is.
Respectfully disagree. You are likely a normal parent with normal kids. The parents of children like BL know what they have produced. They just don't want to admit it. I could give personal examples as well as examples of other cases but we're not supposed to do that. As far as the parents being charged: It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. They ran to a lawyer because they didn't want BL to be held accountable. Seen this over and over, everywhere. Yes, I know all about the Constitution and their rights. They have the right to exercise those rights legally but they are a huge moral failure. Not feeling sorry for them at all.
 
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IMO she was at the SLC hotel, because he’d absconded with the van and left her.
Not out of the realm of possibility, but you'd think she would have panicked and told her mom. It seems like if the story of BL flying to FL is what she told her mom,and her mom then told the uncle and uncle said it on sm, that's how the telephone game works.......but it was just an excuse for BL's absence, that went viral and it came from Gabby, herself. Maybe. jmo
 
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ding ding ding!
The whole storage unit excuse doesn’t fly. Would be cheaper to pay it up until end of October. Leads me to think BL knew the van life trip wasn’t going to last long. Do we know who paid for GP hotel stay? His trip back to Florida, if it happened, is a mystery for sure and possibly more relevant to the case than previously thought.

I'm curious if he did indeed remove her stuff or was a cover story.
Let's say they broke up after the August 12th Moab incident. They are fighting nonstop he calls mom & dad, they offer him an out so he can get away for a week, tie up loose ends. Maybe, so they will stop fighting give them a healthy breather. r what if he started plotting to dump her stuff then her? I wonder if she owned anything he wanted to keep or destroy or to hold from her as ransom or blackmail? A journal, baby photos? He liked taking her stuff to control her, it's a pattern.

He returns they decide to stick it out or start fighting again and he retorts: "I already tossed out your stuff, or you better NOt tell your parents I punched you I have your private journals etc..." A huge fight explodes?
 
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MOO, I think if it happened at all, it was a ruse. A ruse to force a cool down period. My gut has me wondering if the Laundries knew about Moab and forced him to take the break. And, if so, why? What were they concerned about? Or, was it just an innocent effort to cool the situation down. MOO. Thinking out loud. No fact.
I would think that everyone would have been concerned after Moab, Brian and Gabby and both of their families...once relationship issues become public and law enforcement becomes involved, you probably should take some time to sort out what exactly is going on.
 
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I’ve actually thought the same thing. Kinda like a coon hunter. Track him, track him, track track track until you hear those old redbone’s howling. You got him treed now. Nothing to do but sit and wait for him to come down himself. Nowhere to go but up. So those old coon hunters stand under that tree awaiting, Smokin’, drinkin’, tellin stories until the coon comes down and they watch it scamper away. Of course this young coon won’t be goin’ frolicking’ amongst the flora, he’ll be in handcuffs and a 5 Star accompaniment to jail.

This would be the likely approach if they believe he is suicidal, would it not? among other scenarios
 
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It is as if you know them without knowing them.

I do know parents who have raised "normal" children that made poor decisions at BL's age. Those decisions did not come from a dark or abnormal background. They came from immaturity in the moment.
Uhhh, BL did far more than make "poor decisions". IMO.
 
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I find your assessments uncanny...and very possible.
Again I think you're onto to something...no one flies back to move stuff out of a storage locker to save a few bucks. It's cheaper to pay the rent for two more months than fly back suddenly. If the parents aren't ricj then they are angry at having to bail him out yet again.
I am beginning to think he tossed her stuff in the trash back then because he was angry at her.
I also think the parents are more involved in the planning of her stuff being tossed back then.
This would cause a HUGE blowout if he returned and admitted I already tossed your stuff in the trash.
How would you feel? Someone you trusted throwing away your stuff like trash?
Angry, hurt, the explosive argument would take place.
I can see the parents might not approve of the relationship or not like her but to throw out her stuff like trash is pretty low. (If that's what happened). I had it happen to me, childhood photos irreplaceable items forever gone. It's soul-crushing. It feels like you are being erased.

I can see this ginormous overreaction to a break-up taking place. 'Maybe next time she'll think before she....'
 
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What is this "work" she did? I keep seeing people referring to her "work" -- is that posting one video to Youtube and a series of heavily filtered photos on Instagram? As someone who works for a living -- that is not work. That is a hobby.
It's a lot of "work" to get up to speed on photography, editing, use of several programs, choosing/editing non-copyrighted music, learning to record and edit voiceovers, learning transitions, which resolutions are best re youtube/SM limitations, taming color variations for visual unity, and building the network on the internet. A massive amount of time, and digital memory, is required to keep it all backed up yet accessible. It's a LOT of work, very satisfying work. However, nothing at all shows up until one successfully uploads it, which may take a lot of time because of upload speeds, with several attempts being required if mistakes become apparent post publication. A 10 minute video can take 2 hours to upload, after a week of filming, editing, writing copy, etc. IMO it's a mistake to underestimate the effort required to get any new business up and running.

And nothing shows up at all if one is not allowed to upload it because someone else is saying "the time I gave you is up, I wanna go play, you're no good at your work". paraphrased. Accompanied by some slaps, hitting, car jacking, phone grabbing, speeding, reckless driving to get the point across to her as to who was boss.

IMO
 
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She almost got their Brian arrested. With her stuff back in the house, they save storage bucks and have the pleasure of kicking her AND her stuff out to the curb upon her return.
MOO
Like I said. I think they were running g out of money !
Maybe taking storage out of the equation helped.a.little!
Staying in a hotel not so.much unless dad.paid for it!
I don't think they realized how pricey it was going to be a d maybe had not saved up enough to last!

Did they intend on going back to North Port or living on the road?
 
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MOO, I don't believe so. It depends on what LE is uncovering. JMO

Edit: I am just realizing I may have misread your post. Are you saying that because they are following an attorney's advice they would be insulated from any crimes they may have committed? If this is what you meant by your post, I disagree. In fact the attorney himself could be in trouble. There's a crime/fraud exception. MOO

That's exactly a point I was making last night: following attorney advice a) does not mean you're not committing a crime and b) if you're lying to your attorney, doesn't even get you good advice.
 
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He was not charged as a murderer when he left. BL was free to go where he pleased at the time he left. Gabby’s body was not yet found, hecwas not yet charged with anything. He still has not been charged with her homicide
I know, The embarrassment as I see it was in not following him before they charged him….it is not uncommon for detectives to follow potential suspects, not charged perpetrators, , put them under surveillance before they are charged, often stumbling upon evidence enough to get warrants and phone taps, and after all of that detective work, charge them.
 
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He was not charged as a murderer when he left. BL was free to go where he pleased at the time he left. Gabby’s body was not yet found, hecwas not yet charged with anything. He still has not been charged with her homicide
I know, The embarrassment as I see it was in not following him before they charged him….it is not uncommon for detectives to follow potential suspects, not charged perpetrators, , put them under surveillance before they are charged, often stumbling upon evidence enough to get warrants and phone taps, and after all of that detective work, charge them.
 
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What is this "work" she did? I keep seeing people referring to her "work" -- is that posting one video to Youtube and a series of heavily filtered photos on Instagram? As someone who works for a living -- that is not work. That is a hobby.
We all have goals: We want to matter. We want to be important. We want to have freedom and power to pursue our creative work. We want respect from our peers and recognition for our accomplishments. Not out of vanity or selfishness, but of an earnest desire to fulfill our personal potential.
~Ryan Holiday
 
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That's the most likely scenario, which absolutely sucks because we will not likely know for sure unless his body is found.

Yep. I'd love to eat crow on this one.
 
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I would think that everyone would have been concerned after Moab, Brian and Gabby and both of their families...once relationship issues become public and law enforcement becomes involved, you probably should take some time to sort out what exactly is going on.

it’s also possible that neither one told their family about Moab?
 
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Mr Chapman said he hopes the evidence he collected from a Florida park will be tested for Mr Laundrie's DNA.

According to The New York Post, Mr Chapman is currently searching for Mr Laundrie near the Appalachian Trail.

Mr Chapman handing over evidence is a step outside his usual methods; during a Newsmax interview last week, the bounty hunter said he rarely worked alongside law enforcement during his hunts.

“I guess we kind of do the same thing but I really don’t pay too much attention, like they don’t pay too much attention to me,” Mr Chapman said. “After 45 years, I don’t call the police, they’re usually called on me – so I don’t know what they’re doing.”
Dog the Bounty Hunter gives Brian Laundrie evidence to police for DNA testing
 
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Are your persona
Respectfully disagree. You are likely a normal parent with normal kids. The parents of children like BL know what they have produced. They just don't want to admit it. I could give personal examples as well as examples of other cases but we're not supposed to do that. As far as the parents being charged: It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. They ran to a lawyer because they didn't want BL to be held accountable. Seen this over and over, everywhere. Yes, I know all about the Constitution and their rights. They have the right to exercise those rights legally but they are a huge moral failure. Not feeling sorry for them at all.
Are you using personal examples that you've witnessed or actually known these people raising these children and hearing their struggles? They've been manipulated too. Their perception of reality is distorted and they've often been gaslit to the point that they don't trust their own instincts. Following professional advice feels safe to them and the attorneys themselves reinforce that idea.

Long story short, pointing fingers at the L's only takes the spotlight off BL.
 
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I agree that it seems most likely that it was unplanned, if he made the trip at all.

GP basically FREAKED OUT when LE told her that they were going to separate the two for the night and that she'd be alone with the van. But she was going to be a-ok with making plans to spend a week alone in a hotel near the airport in Salt Lake City? That just seems unlikely to me.

Just curious where she seems to "freak out" in the video relating to the separation? I have watched the footage multiple times and I see someone who is frightened/sad/scared - unless I missed it and its totally possible, but IMO I didnt necessarily see someone who "Freaked out."
 
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