Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #58

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  • #281
kinda lacked the willpower to stop slapping his girlfriend around, or screaming at the waitress, or the manager at the texmex. then probably lacked the willpower to not kill gabby. then had no willpower to not use gabby's van or money on trip back home. then had no willpower to keep himself from his master controller parents. the had no willpower to be honest and forthcoming. had no willpower to hire his own lawyer, had to use his parents. yeah, such great willpower. more like pretty much NO willpower AND NO self control. just my opinion only.

@dkryder I can’t “like” this enough! MOO
 
  • #282
I think he was beside himself...no where to go without Gabby. His whole world was Gabby.

Going back with her van indicated to me he was not thinking straight. I still wonder if his parents are the ones that encourage him to run. What were they thinking if they did.

That he drove the van back home to FL indicates that he considered it his van as well has hers, a shared vehicle that they lived in together, and he mostly drove. (Remember, she said in the bodycam #1 that she didn't drive it that much.)

Even though the van was in her name, it seems that they considered it their shared vehicle. Coincidentally, the Mustang in FL is apparently not in his name either, but seems to have been what he drove. His driving the van home to FL indicates to me that he considered it his as well as GL's van, and it was his only form of transportation, in his thinking. If he were thinking more strategically after killing someone, it might have been smarter to leave the van at the scene of the crime and get his parents to buy him a ticket home with a story that he needs time away or they broke up or whatever.

Returning to FL in the van without GL indicates to me that he [allegedly] knew she was dead. I believe he loved her/ they loved each other (based on the length of relationship and their plans to get married). You don't leave your loved one behind, thousands of miles behind, without the home (van home) they were living in. You don't go home and then just carry on as if everything is normal. That indicates to me that there was no GL to bring back, and he knew it. IMO.

The use of her bank cards supports this as well. You don't leave someone you love without any money.
 
  • #283
Where is he??!!
 
  • #284
Two unresolved questions—
1. Has anyone been able to find footage or a photo of the Laundrie house anytime between 9/11 and 9/14 but earlier than BE’s 6:54pm tweet on 9/14? I’ve been looking on and off for a few days.

2. Why isn’t the reward being publicized more? We on WS know that most of the time the reward doesn’t get paid out, but the general public doesn’t know that. I’ve seen multiple people ask “why there’s no reward for BL” on Twitter and such. Last I checked, there was $180,000 from private sources. Why is that not being emphasized?
 
  • #285
so why did he go back to his controlling masters, his parents?


Did he go back to his parents, or go back to his home where he could acquire the means to which he could control his life/destiny for the near future?

Why did he return?

money?
food?
supplies?
ideas on how to evade authorities?
smores and an open campfire?
impulse?
survival?
comfort of the known?
meds?
to say goodby?

Lots of reasons all of which he was in control of.
 
  • #286
Two unresolved questions—
1. Has anyone been able to find footage or a photo of the Laundrie house anytime between 9/11 and 9/14 but earlier than BE’s 6:54pm tweet on 9/14? I’ve been looking on and off for a few days.

2. Why isn’t the reward being publicized more? We on WS know that most of the time the reward doesn’t get paid out, but the general public doesn’t know that. I’ve seen multiple people ask “why there’s no reward for BL” on Twitter and such. Last I checked, there was $180,000 from private sources. Why is that not being emphasized?

Isn't all of the reward money 'private' money? It is likely that the police don't pump out reward reminders unless it is govt money that is put up for the reward. imo
 
  • #287
That he drove the van back home to FL indicates that he considered it his van as well has hers, a shared vehicle that they lived in together, and he mostly drove. (Remember, she said in the bodycam #1 that she didn't drive it that much.)

Even though the van was in her name, it seems that they considered it their shared vehicle. Coincidentally, the Mustang in FL is apparently not in his name either, but seems to have been what he drove. His driving the van home to FL indicates to me that he considered it his as well as GL's van, and it was his only form of transportation, in his thinking. If he were thinking more strategically after killing someone, it might have been smarter to leave the van at the scene of the crime and get his parents to buy him a ticket home with a story that he needs time away or they broke up or whatever.

Returning to FL in the van without GL indicates to me that he [allegedly] knew she was dead. I believe he loved her/ they loved each other (based on the length of relationship and their plans to get married). You don't leave your loved one behind, thousands of miles behind, without the home (van home) they were living in. You don't go home and then just carry on as if everything is normal. That indicates to me that there was no GL to bring back, and he knew it. IMO.

The use of her bank cards supports this as well. You don't leave someone you love without any money.

Interesting line of reasoning, but a bit confusing. Do you kill someone you love?

And if you do, how do you act afterwards? How might one expect someone to act afterwards? It's not clear to me.

JMO
 
  • #288
Two unresolved questions—
1. Has anyone been able to find footage or a photo of the Laundrie house anytime between 9/11 and 9/14 but earlier than BE’s 6:54pm tweet on 9/14? I’ve been looking on and off for a few days.

2. Why isn’t the reward being publicized more? We on WS know that most of the time the reward doesn’t get paid out, but the general public doesn’t know that. I’ve seen multiple people ask “why there’s no reward for BL” on Twitter and such. Last I checked, there was $180,000 from private sources. Why is that not being emphasized?
I wonder about that reward as well. The only reason I can guess regarding the lack of publicity is that the donors, being different entities, are not on the same page with their terms & conditions. One may require conviction, one may require capture dead or alive, another may have an expiration date... It seems that the offers were tossed out at the fervored height of media frenzy (publicity stunt?) & never really clarified how one might collect that reward. Just a guess. Idk. I share your question though!
 
  • #289
Isn't all of the reward money 'private' money? It is likely that the police don't pump out reward reminders unless it is govt money that is put up for the reward. imo
Yes, I believe it’s all privately funded, so I get why LE isn’t broadcasting it, but why is the media not mentioning it at all? Is there a liability there?
 
  • #290
Pardon another interruption….

Was trying to let this work itself out by members in the thread without a need for another
MOD NOTE, but it turned out to be wishful thinking:

THERE IS NO INDICATION BY ANYONE IN AUTHORITY THAT GABBY’S HEAD WAS NOT WITH HER BODY. Speculation about that is a violation of TOS. It is also graphically offensive and unnecessary. Jumping to that conclusion based on a single word by a family member in an interview is a stretch that is not going to be allowed on Websleuths. Those who insist on discussing this are not in line with Websleuths victim-friendly policy. How do you think Gabby’s family would feel if they came upon our members using this unfounded speculation as the topic du jour for this thread?

If something like that is brought up, and a few responses from other members are able to respectfully re-direct the conversation by showing how it was an erroneous assumption, you have handled it without the need for mod intervention. But when others run away with the discussion to add unnecessary commentary, the thread gets a clean up and sometimes a temporary shut down to do that.


PLEASE THINK before jumping in to a discussion that is questionable. What would the victim’s family think about what you post? That should guide you in making a better choice than some made here today.

THREAD IS NOW CLOSED FOR CLEAN UP.
 
  • #291
Thread is OPEN.
Heed the instructions of the MOD NOTES posted, or members may find themselves with limited or no posting privileges.
 
  • #292
I wonder about that reward as well. The only reason I can guess regarding the lack of publicity is that the donors, being different entities, are not on the same page with their terms & conditions. One may require conviction, one may require capture dead or alive, another may have an expiration date... It seems that the offers were tossed out at the fervored height of media frenzy (publicity stunt?) & never really clarified how one might collect that reward. Just a guess. Idk. I share your question though!

Some people enjoy the hunt and capture more than any monetary reward. Others live for it. It depends on the character of the man doing the hunting. Maybe, just maybe, there's a man of principle applying his skill and intuition to the capture of BL. His idea of a reward might be bringing BL to the Petitos in shackles - for nothing. Content with his O, so to speak.
MOO
 
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Two unresolved questions—
1. Has anyone been able to find footage or a photo of the Laundrie house anytime between 9/11 and 9/14 but earlier than BE’s 6:54pm tweet on 9/14? I’ve been looking on and off for a few days.

2. Why isn’t the reward being publicized more? We on WS know that most of the time the reward doesn’t get paid out, but the general public doesn’t know that. I’ve seen multiple people ask “why there’s no reward for BL” on Twitter and such. Last I checked, there was $180,000 from private sources. Why is that not being emphasized?
As for the reward being publicized, I just don't think it's necessary. This story is still dominating the headlines/social media, and it's unlikely the reward will change anything in that regard.

When/if attention starts to wane, I think that's when we'll see more of a focus on that aspect.
 
  • #295
That he drove the van back home to FL indicates that he considered it his van as well has hers, a shared vehicle that they lived in together, and he mostly drove. (Remember, she said in the bodycam #1 that she didn't drive it that much.)

Even though the van was in her name, it seems that they considered it their shared vehicle. Coincidentally, the Mustang in FL is apparently not in his name either, but seems to have been what he drove. His driving the van home to FL indicates to me that he considered it his as well as GL's van, and it was his only form of transportation, in his thinking. If he were thinking more strategically after killing someone, it might have been smarter to leave the van at the scene of the crime and get his parents to buy him a ticket home with a story that he needs time away or they broke up or whatever.

Returning to FL in the van without GL indicates to me that he [allegedly] knew she was dead. I believe he loved her/ they loved each other (based on the length of relationship and their plans to get married). You don't leave your loved one behind, thousands of miles behind, without the home (van home) they were living in. You don't go home and then just carry on as if everything is normal. That indicates to me that there was no GL to bring back, and he knew it. IMO.

The use of her bank cards supports this as well. You don't leave someone you love without any money.
I agree with all of this however the van even had a personalized license plate that said 'GBZ', (Gabs was her nickname according to Joe) further indicating the van was 100% Gabby's.
 
  • #296
Quiet today..
 
  • #297
I agree with all of this however the van even had a personalized license plate that said 'GBZ', further indicating the van was 100% Gabby's.
I think this is the mixing up of 2 different facts. The license plate info from the family was actually just one that they saw and took as a sign that Gabby was with them. I don’t believe that it was her license plate as well.
 
  • #298
I think this is the mixing up of 2 different facts. The license plate info from the family was actually just one that they saw and took as a sign that Gabby was with them. I don’t believe that it was her license plate as well.
Oh I see I'm mistaken then.
 
  • #299
I agree with all of this however the van even had a personalized license plate that said 'GBZ', (Gabs was her nickname according to Joe) further indicating the van was 100% Gabby's.
As well, if the van was not hers, during Moab, they wouldn't have handed her the keys. But the previous post is so logical and elementary (@CarolynAB2 ,) and I agree, IMO he knew she was not alive, as even if they had broke up, I doubt she would hand over her bank card and the van to him, leaving herself with no real means to continue on. JMO
 
  • #300
Back to our fugitive. Article SBM:

fugitives like Brian Laundrie "tend to try to figure out" how they can reach their "comfort zone" while on the run and are often located in those places.

"People don't change because they become a fugitive," Turchie, who spent a year in the North Carolina mountains between 1998 and 1999 leading the fugitive case against Olympic bomber Eric Robert Rudolph, told Fox News Digital. "They tend to try to figure out how they can land in the comfort zone."

Laundrie enjoyed hiking and traveling, so some experts have suggested he may be in the wilderness or on the road, and several potential sightings have added some credibility to those theories. Others have suggested the fugitive may be closer to home and could be getting help from another person.

"Clearly he's not out in some camp or some cave somewhere on the hard, cold ground or … snake, gator-infested water. He's somewhere where he's probably being taken care of," Turchie said. "When you see how he came running home after something obviously happened, that kind of tells you what he's probably doing now.

Turchie explained how a key player in the FBI's search for Rudolph in the 1990s was a man who shared some of Rudolph's interests. Rudolph had spent time talking to the man in his healthy food store in North Carolina, and the man ultimately gave the FBI helpful information…

Laundrie may similarly be around people he knows or trusts. Driving to far-off places, as he had been before his disappearance, is also "exactly the kind of thing that that may very well be what he's doing," but he would have to have finances in order to do so, Turchie said. One minor traffic error, too, could make "his fugitive run pretty short."

While all fugitives are different, they all "tire eventually, and many of them ended up being on the run for …. well over a decade," Turchie said, adding that he does not think Laundrie will be on the run for that long.

"But the formula is essentially the same.. You interview as many people who need this person as you can, you continue following that. You talk to neighbors, friends and you look for anything [the fugitive] might have said during a time that he didn't have this guard up where he hadn't done anything."

Those clues, Turchie believes, will ultimately lead officials to discover Laundrie in the same way it has helped them discover other fugitives.

Former FBI agent says Brian Laundrie will likely be found in his 'comfort zone'
 
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