Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #59

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Another consideration in regards to postings videos…why not save all your content and piece it all together once your trip was over? Sure, editing could be worked on during down time. But to “complete” a YT video halfway through the trip just seems odd to me. Why submit a video when your trip isn’t even completed? Sad ending to her video.

She wanted to become a well followed van lifestyle vlogger and have a good Instagram following and all of that. She wanted it to make money. If you check out any other influencers on social media, you’ll realize they are posting videos or photos every single day. To get revenue coming in, you have to be relevant and familiar to your audience and that takes a lot of posting.
 
  • #122
Or refilling his prepaid credit card.

Wouldn't that be illegal? I don't believe a lawyer would be/could be funding a federal fugitive. It sounds like a big No-No if the lawyer likes his freedom and law practice and personal life.
 
  • #123
I agree. I wonder if he flew home because they had been arguing and fighting, and he was angry---considered leaving the trip---leaving her alone to drive home because he knew how terrified she was?
Maybe his parents convinced him to help her return and so he flew back to do that. By then she was probably very upset, so things just went downhill fast. He wanted her to be 'grateful' that he returned---but she was angry and told him so?
I assumed he flew home because they were fighting, and his sister basically confirmed that when she said she thought he flew home and started to give a reason and then cut herself off. I think she was going to say that’s what he did when he was upset with Gabby.
 
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Hi all! First time poster here and newbie! I question this video that Gabby supposedly made when Brian was in Florida. It seems eery to me that the video starts from a previous trip in California, clearly during winter. It takes us to the present time in Utah and ends there. Just seems very odd how the timeline was put together and posted. Any thoughts?

Welcome :)
 
  • #127
Yes, plus there are those who do not want t0 get involved. I will never forget in the Elizabeth Smart case, the woman who called LE when she saw her walking down the street with the man and woman said her husband‘s reaction was to leave it alone and not get involved, what the…. Thankfully she ignored him and made the call.
Kitty Genovese, 1964. 38 witnesses did nothing. Things change slowly. Or for some not at all.
Murder of Kitty Genovese - Wikipedia
 
  • #128
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It sounds like there was a lot leading up to the fight that may indicate why he locked the car doors leaving her on the outside. I may have missed the part where BL was attempting to carjack the van, as I was of the understanding he was trying to distance them from each other because of the physical interactions and the fact that their public fighting was drawing attention. He seemed to have been sensitive to having everyone witness their very public fight. Not sure he would decide to carjack the van with everyone's eyes on him.
He could have walked away, let her have the van. I don’t think he was worried about public impressions or sensitive to that at all. At the Mary piglet he went in four times to berate the staff, excessive anger in my opinion and did not give a flip about making a scene. I am not trying to negate Gabby’s participation/contribution to what seemed like a failing toxic relationship but there were other choices that could have been made. We all are in charge of how we react to a situation, no one else is responsible for our behavior.
 
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Another consideration in regards to postings videos…why not save all your content and piece it all together once your trip was over? Sure, editing could be worked on during down time. But to “complete” a YT video halfway through the trip just seems odd to me. Why submit a video when your trip isn’t even completed? Sad ending to her video.
I got a weird vibe from the video. Something just felt off.

I was surprised to find there wasn't more content on their YT channel or Instagram. Maybe they shared more on TikTok? For some reason I thought they were uploading daily/weekly/update vlogs on the YT channel. Or older videos from their past trips? For whatever reason, I expected more "content" or documentation.

Even though it's incredibly sad, Gabby really deserves credit. Her footage and skills really showed in her work and I think BL was jealous and cynical. She didn't need him and it showed. What a 🤬🤬🤬!

Another thought I just had: What if Gabbys devices contained a diary?? What if she had been secretly noting all of BLs' abuses and we might never know since her electronics can't be located?
 
  • #130
Maybe he just wanted to be done with her and she wouldn't let him go. We really don't know. They were stuck together to deal with each other 24/7 and it was ruining whatever happy life they had had together previously. They just didn't know how to let it go and he wound up killing her rather than doing the reasonable thing and just leaving. I'm sure that one of her Dads would have been willing to fly out there and drive her back to New York. Sad turn of affairs, as they go, but no one winds up dead. jmo
I've read a few articles about "van life", and it sounds pretty rough, and seems to leave people open for escalation of personal issues. After making your goals public, it may be more difficult to throw in the towel on them. She was young, who knows what was going through her head amid all the turmoil...
 
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"Gabby Petito memorial visitors come to pay respects: ‘it touches us all’
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A makeshift memorial for Gabby Petito slated for removal on Tuesday.

Visitors from out of state came to pay their respects to the makeshift memorial to Gabby Petito in North Port, Florida.

Denise Cato, who was raised in North Port and lives in Georgia, told Fox News she keeps thinking about this “horrific situation.”

"I hope that they find him alive,” Cato said. “And really most importantly, find him alive so that an investigation can continue."

Laura Schroeder, a mother who was visited the memorial with her daughter, Autumn, said Petito’s death was a sad story that “touches us all, especially people with any kids or especially a daughter, so it really does something, you know when you've got a child and especially with what's happened to her."

"It's kind of like scary being a daughter and like it's unexpected like nobody expected this to happen obviously,” Autumn said. “So, it's kind of scary for like all like young girls and stuff."

They both said Petito’s story was a “lesson.” "

Gabby Petito: Brian Laundrie search continues as her family retrieves memorial items: LIVE UPDATES
 
  • #132
Id venture to guess that a good number of us has had their early adulthood dreams crushed largely by the relationships we were in at the time. Its a sad reality/risk of early adulthood. And moving on from those disappointments and relationships was a rocky road, but most of us have found acceptance of that fact and some resolution in our lives. Those two were out there alone in the mess they created for themselves by not really ever being on the same page in terms of passions and goals. And they had no relief from each other and no real confidants that they could receive counsel from except their respective parents, long distance. And neither wanted their parents to know just how much trouble they were really in. Sadly, I think what happened was almost bound to happen and no one but they could do anything to avert it. jmo So, here we are.
 
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He could have walked away, let her have the van. I don’t think he was worried about public impressions or sensitive to that at all. At the Mary piglet he went in four times to berate the staff, excessive anger in my opinion and did not give a flip about making a scene. I am not trying to negate Gabbys participation but there were other choices that could have been made. We all are in charge of how we react to a situation, no one else is responsible for our behavior.
BL told the Moab police that he was concerned that she was going to leave HIM. This was the part when he made the now infamous statement that he didn't have a phone--he said he was thinking she was going to leave him, and he didn't have a phone. I took that to mean he didn't have his phone on him and she would take the van and his phone, which I assumed was in the van. I never heard GP say she thought he was going to leave her, she seemed more concerned that he was telling her to calm down.
 
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I would assume it was her. He perhaps took photos and videos, or she used a camera with a remote and took them herself, but I believe she was the one editing the videos and creating the content, since that is what is needed to make their vlog work, and that is what he told her she couldn’t do.

I tried to see if there's anything on their social media content to show it was independent venture on either one's part. It all looks like a joint project.

The website www.nomadicstatik ownership search comes back without showing who registered it.

Registered On:
2021-07-28
Expires On:
2022-07-28
Updated On:
2021-08-21 (note: this is when she in SLC by herself also possibly the date she's seen with someone else in a convenience store)

Whois nomadicstatik.com

Their youtube video "about" section seems to be a joint venture:

We’re Gabby + Brian ☺︎︎ Recently we decided to downsize our life into a little Ford transit connect to travel across the United States!

Follow our journey Website//nomadicstatik.com Instagram //
@gabspetito & @bizarre_design_
TikTok//@nomadicstatik
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsgnE460ebvgB1I30gwuLkw/about



 
  • #135
I agree. I wonder if he flew home because they had been arguing and fighting, and he was angry---considered leaving the trip---leaving her alone to drive home because he knew how terrified she was?
Maybe his parents convinced him to help her return and so he flew back to do that. By then she was probably very upset, so things just went downhill fast. He wanted her to be 'grateful' that he returned---but she was angry and told him so?
I'm running all sorts of scenarios through my head. What if he *did* call a time out and tell her they had to end the trip and she said ok just let me do one more week or so for more pictures to end it with so they agreed to a time out and he left her in the hotel and flew home. When he's there he tells his parents how awful it is for poor him , that he just wants to hike and camp and commune with nature but terrible Gabby insists on making all these videos etc and poor poor BL just can't take anymore and he wants to break up with her. His parents agree that this is just not acceptable treatment of their golden boy and say ok get her things out of storage and bring them back to her and drive her back to her parents ( either set) and here's $XXXX.XX to fly back home. He returns and they set off for the agreed upon final stops but by now , fueled by his parents agreement of his shoddy treatment, he's so angry he's having a hard time being agreeable during the last week.and he snaps and does the unthinkable. Once he regains some semblance of composure he starts to hitchhike away to get close enough to a place to get airline tickets. Then he realizes if the van is found she will likely be found as well so he turns back to get the van and drives it back home. He gets there and tells his parents she's so stubborn she refused to go back to her parents but was afraid to drive the van alone so she's going to continue on with (imaginary) friends they made on the trip but made him swear not to tell her parents because they would insist she come back home and she told him she'd come for the van when the trip was over. All sounds believable at first and when her parents try to call he says just don't answer, we can't tell them she isn't with me anymore! Then the last message comes where they're told the police are being called and all hell breaks loose at the Laundrie household. He convinces them Gabby was fine when he left but oh boy now he's gonna be blamed for whatever happened to her. Enter the lawyer who says shut up, don't talk to anyone. They go camping and he takes off from there . Is this a workable scenario?
 
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I think to do that you have to use an actual bank account or credit card, not something they can do with another visa gift card. So I think there would be a record.
How do these online bank accounts work like.Chime!
Ppl.can open bank accounts without ever entering a bank
 
  • #137
JMO, but my guess is that Brian met someone via Instagram or briefly on the road and they kept in contact. Just look at the ratio of young women he's following. We've seen how he manipulated Gabby. Would it be that shocking if he was emotionally cheating to be in a position of power? +1 if it was with a fan.

I imagine Brian is hunkered down in the AC right now watching nature docs while someone waits on his every need, and they're manipulated into believing he is innocent. Hard to link him to someone like that.
 
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JMO, but my guess is that Brian met someone via Instagram or briefly on the road and they kept in contact. Just look at the ratio of young women he's following. We've seen how he manipulated Gabby. Would it be that shocking if he was emotionally cheating to be in a position of power? +1 if it was with a fan.

I imagine Brian is hunkered down in the AC right now watching nature docs while someone waits on his every need, and they're manipulated into believing he is innocent. Hard to link him to someone like that.
As perhaps in his parents basement? There is no outside witness to him leaving the home. No sign of him camping in the wilderness that he was reported to have gone. Searches for him are already being downsized.
 
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Maybe he just wanted to be done with her and she wouldn't let him go. We really don't know. They were stuck together to deal with each other 24/7 and it was ruining whatever happy life they had had together previously. They just didn't know how to let it go and he wound up killing her rather than doing the reasonable thing and just leaving. I'm sure that one of her Dads would have been willing to fly out there and drive her back to New York. Sad turn of affairs, as they go, but no one winds up dead. jmo
I've speculated personally that, to a possessive guy, letting her go means some other guy 'gets' her, and that's apparently intolerable for the insecure but competitive male ego. So there's that idea that 'I can't stand living with you, but I can't stand the idea some other guy is going to live with you'. If he's caught up in that mindset, there's one way out.
 
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JMO, but my guess is that Brian met someone via Instagram or briefly on the road and they kept in contact. Just look at the ratio of young women he's following. We've seen how he manipulated Gabby. Would it be that shocking if he was emotionally cheating to be in a position of power? +1 if it was with a fan.

I imagine Brian is hunkered down in the AC right now watching nature docs while someone waits on his every need, and they're manipulated into believing he is innocent. Hard to link him to someone like that.
Those are some of my thoughts too.
The ultimate power trip!
I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.
 
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BL told the Moab police that he was concerned that she was going to leave HIM. This was the part when he made the now infamous statement that he didn't have a phone--he said he was thinking she was going to leave him, and he didn't have a phone. I took that to mean he didn't have his phone on him and she would take the van and his phone, which I assumed was in the van. I never heard GP say she thought he was going to leave her, she seemed more concerned that he was telling her to calm down.
Yes we don’t know what was in their heads, but if he was wanting her to get some space away from him, to calm down, one way from that to happen is for him to remove himself from the van. During this incident he was in charge of the van, he was driving he was the one trying to lock her out. It appears in the Moab video that he goes to the driver side door and gets his phone out at the timestamp at 41. He could’ve easily pulled the van over grabbed his phone and walked away.

 
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