Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #59

[Chicago54]

SBM for focus - if the truck was moved between 6 and 10, then that could support CL's story that he went to the reserve to look for BL for several hours on the evening of the 13th.

BL going hiking on the 13th does make more sense in the timeline. The U.S. Sun reports that CL and RL originally told police they "only grew concerned between 24 to 48 hours after their son failed to return from the hike. They claim they drove up to the 25,000-acre park, spotted Laundrie's car, and drove it home after allegedly finding a note on the windshield left by police asking for it to be removed from the area."

Now, this timeline would make perfect sense EXCEPT now they've added in that CL also went to look for BL on the evening of the 13th. (Source: WVTM 13)

A couple of questions to think over:
1) If they weren't concerned until 24-48 hours later, why would CL go to the park to search for BL the night of the 13th?

2) If you were so concerned about your son, why would you wait until the 17th to report it?

3) When relaying events to LE, did CL just forget that he actually went to look for BL twice?

I'm not criticizing CL for going to look for BL on the evening of the 13th, I would have done the same. I'm questioning the information they've relayed to this point.

If one were to be leaning more towards CL and RL assisting BL in leaving, it would be reasonable to wonder if CL picked up BL from the park the evening of the 13th, at a time when the park was closed to the public, and took him to another location.

Also, in digging around, I discovered the park hours are 6:00 a.m. to sunset. (Source: Park Info.) It's a 10 minute drive for the Laundrie home to Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park (where the Mustang was located.) Assuming BL was at the park waiting for the gates to open, we can say we have a broad window of 5:45ish a.m. to 3:00 p.m. (based on my previous post about the weather), but I think that can probably be narrowed down even more. It would be nice to know what time SB allegedly spoke to BL on the 13th.

IMO they didn’t count on photos of the car surfacing, the ticket on it and things not lining up. I think they probably were concerned 24-48 hrs after BL didn’t return and Dad went out looking on the 13th, which bring me back to the argument that BL left in a flurry immediately after G’s family started contacting the Ls and whatever stupid story he had told his parents was blown. The 911 calls and LE interaction began and BL took off.

Recalling that the original statement from SB about BL missing as of the 14th did not include the “4-5 hr search” on Monday the 13th. Which of course makes no sense with their new timeline. Add to that if BL went out for his hike on the 13th exactly what time did parents become concerned enough to search for 4-5 hrs in the dark. ( I know I repeating myself from my previous posts, but I amshocked the press hasn’t called this atty out for his “fabrications”!

being the “creative” atty he has proven himself to be, all his texts or proclamations have some shred of fact. IMO, the Ls did become concerned 24-48 hrs later, after BL left on the 10-11th.

They gave their boy a nice weeks head start before they told LE. Probably a going away present. Moo

 

[nocommoncents]

Innocent people have gone to jail.

Hypothetically, if this were an accident or even self-defense (GP hits BL's arm, BL pushes her away and she falls and hits her head), with no witnesses, how many here would be willing to acquit him based on his testimony alone? With a history of a volatile relationship and the Moab encounter, BL would most likely be looking at a lot of time behind bars.

Yes, but would SB have advised staying quiet at the missing person's stage in that scenario? He knows how that makes his client look. In the Moab incident, BL was the victim so he had a shot at self defense. Wouldn't SB have gone that route if there was any case for it?

 

[kittythehare]

Thanks for your answer. In short, yes, I do believe that the 'folks asking questions' are harassing. If it is the same people who harrassed CaL - then I have cause for concern. They were not ordinary protestors. They were sent there by someone to get answers. Most disturbing IMO.

They were journalists! Fox news was planted there along with several other media outlets.
They were sent by their employers to get a story is all.
Same as every day.

 

[lxmx]

So, if it happened quickly without screaming and other noise, and not with a gun, what does that leave? If death was almost instantaneous, there would not be a lot of blood spatter or even pooling. If no blood evidence at all, likely strangulation or smothering.......which take a long time. jmo

Not to be morbid, but would being hit hard on the head with a rock cause an instant death? I have no idea but I guess that could be a possibility too. Just my own thoughts on what else could have killed her.

 

[Nikynoo]

Just to clarify, since my post was deleted due to "bickering":
If I have a seizure in the middle of the night and give my husband a bloody nose, I am not being violent.
If I am a nonverbal developmentally delayed 15 year old who bites my provider to indicate my frustration, I am not being violent.
If I am having a panic attack because my immediate safety is being threatened, and I scratch, flail, and slap, I am not being violent.
I sure hope people here are smart enough to understand these things.

The first two, legally, it is outside of your control because of a recognised medical condition. I am not sure whether the third would legally fall under the same criteria.

 

[samanthadaniels1995]

When I read within the threads discussion about motive I often see references to "accidental" events etc.

Yesterday, in the middle of the night, I remembered reading about Gabby planning to visit her friend on her Birthday. I also recall reading that BL had taken away Gabby's phone and driver's license to deter Gabby from going out with her friend.

We also observed the result of a significant altercation between Gabby and BL. Gabby seem to allude to her desire to have her van organized, and seem vested in her Van life blog.

If BL was making it difficult to manage the daily commitment toward her Van Life blog and expressed how his habits etc was not helpful after some time. He may have been pressed to make changes at a time of fatigue.

<modsnip - opinion stated as fact>

 

[Cloudydiamond]

They were journalists! Fox news was planted there along with several other media outlets.
They were sent by their employers to get a story is all.
Same as every day.

He is not a journalist, LOL

 

[LeeJay55]

They were journalists! Fox news was planted there along with several other media outlets.
They were sent by their employers to get a story is all.
Same as every day.

I don’t believe they were journalists just protesters!

 

[Warwick7]

For the sake of complete information, that is the same number of witnesses who saw Gabby strike Brian.

In actuality it's not complete information, because we really don't know how many times he hit her.

 

[Goldenseal]

Every lawyer I know says say nothing.
No matter if your innocent
Or guilty!

True! But BL would have been in much better shape legally if he had called 911 for Gabby at the scene, given himself up, and used his one phone call to call his parents to arrange for a criminal lawyer. And said nothing from the time he was picked up. Running was the exact wrong thing.

 

[nocommoncents]

I am not a lawyer, but I do work with victims. IMO, lawyers instruct their clients to be quiet (or give them specific guidance about what little they can say) in most legal scenarios.

Thank you. I was definitely trying to emphasize the lawyer advice part moreso than the activity itself. Being that he's not a criminal lawyer, it does make sense that he would default to silence.

 

[Nikynoo]

Do you have a citation for this?

this is the post I was referring to. Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #59 but I may have confused matters

 

[TheGardener]

Just read that Dog hurt his ankle & is suspending his search for BL. Not sure how to embed a tweet but Josh Benson from WFLA is reporting this.

Hmmm. Seems his recent discussion about the expense involved wasn't answered with a Visa or Mastercard response. What happened to him having BL in his sights?
Theater, all the way.

 

[Spute]

edit: see post on page 49

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

I'm saying that IMO, if BL is indeed dead, whenever that may have happened, the parents being "confused" about a date after GP's demise will not be material, even if some charge can be brought against them.

Agree, does not really matter other than if

I removed my post, because I am not sure. But I still believe that that one audio of a call, indicated that the woman was slapping the man.

The article states:
"The male tried to create distance by telling Gabbie to go take a walk to calm down, she didn’t want to be separated from the male, and began slapping him," the report said. "He grabbed her face and pushed her back as she pressed upon him and the van, he tried to lock her out and succeeded except for his driver’s door, she opened that and forced her way over him and into the vehicle before it drove off."

"A responding officer initially wrote that he believes "it was reported the male had been observed to have assaulted the female," but later wrote that "no one reported that the male struck the female."

confusing ....when you listen to the one audio call, i know...

Another thought as to these articles, I’m not sure the date of this one but many of them were written before the 911 call was released and we’re based off of the written report which did not include the 911 call which shed more light on what the witness saw.

 

[Nikynoo]

Which jurisdiction will issue an arrest warrant for murder once Brian is found?

Would it not be a federal charge in Wyoming?

 

[Keyedin]

IMO they didn’t count on photos of the car surfacing, the ticket on it and things not lining up. I think they probably were concerned 24-48 hrs after BL didn’t return and Dad went out looking on the 13th, which bring me back to the argument that BL left in a flurry immediately after G’s family started contacting the Ls and whatever stupid story he had told his parents was blown. The 911 calls and LE interaction began and BL took off.

Recalling that the original statement from SB about BL missing as of the 14th did not include the “4-5 hr search” on Monday the 13th. Which of course makes no sense with their new timeline. Add to that if BL went out for his hike on the 13th exactly what time did parents become concerned enough to search for 4-5 hrs in the dark. ( I know I repeating myself from my previous posts, but I amshocked the press hasn’t called this atty out for his “fabrications”!

being the “creative” atty he has proven himself to be, all his texts or proclamations have some shred of fact. IMO, the Ls did become concerned 24-48 hrs later, after BL left on the 10-11th.

They gave their boy a nice weeks head start before they told LE. Probably a going away present. Moo

Well, if we consider the first video from Fox 13 was from their 6 pm broadcast on the 13th and the second was from their 10 pm broadcast on the 13th, it would have been in that 4-hour window, so I'm going to hazard a guess it wasn't a 4-5 hour search. It obviously has been moved at some point, but that window doesn't even fit a 4-hour search.

 

[InvisibleMe]

Update:

Michael Ruiz on Twitter
Chris and Roberta came out tonight to take down this tribute to #GabbyPetito. The other sign remains in place in the corner of their yard. #BrianLaundie #wheresbrian

11:23 PM · Oct 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Michael Ruiz on Twitter
UPDATE: Chris Laundrie sprinted out in the dead of night to take down the other sign at #GabbyPetito’s makeshift memorial on the corner of his lawn.

11:26 PM · Oct 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Wow! These people are so callous. Unbelievable.

 

[Nikynoo]

They were journalists! Fox news was planted there along with several other media outlets.
They were sent by their employers to get a story is all.
Same as every day.

If you watch the recording they were personal friends of the P's. Its near the end. I found the conversation disturbing.

 

[LeeJay55]

True! But BL would have been in much better shape legally if he had called 911 for Gabby at the scene, given himself up, and used his one phone call to call his parents to arrange for a criminal lawyer. And said nothing from the time he was picked up. Running was the exact wrong thing.

But….. every lawyer would tell u to shaddup!
The guy is in big serious trouble! Anything he says or said would be used against him! I’m not so sure that would have legally helped him!
Why did he come home?
And why with the van?
Why have they not charged him with her murder? They obviously know how she died. Can they not prove he did it?
Nothing makes sense!