Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #62

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  • #701
Really confusing...so are we to expect a Wyoming (Teton county) grand jury to be seated investigating the homicide? Will the Laundries be subpoenaed to give testimony?
I'm not really sure what is going on. Why would the coroner's autopsy memo have been filed in Teton County District Court unless the Teton County court is involved somehow? And had a case to file that document under? There is definitely something going on with this case and the Teton County District Court. imo
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  • #702
Can't stop thinking about Gabby's family tonight. I pray for them and hope they can find some kind of comfort and peace after finding out how he killed her. I can't begin to imagine their heartbreak. I am sickened even more than before.
 
  • #703
I don’t know how Gabby’s parents haven’t shown up at their door. I’d be out of my mind and extremely dangerous.
It just seems to me that they could make this a lot easier on themselves if they behave like normal parents of a suspect. Recognise that he IS suspect, but you want to see a fair judicial system settle the matter, and make a public declaration that you love your son and please turn yourself in so this can be settled. Maybe it would keep the bullhorns away....... jmo
Their own behavior implicates them.
 
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it was reported that LE or FBI had gone to the house but then later recanted. No activity at the house
Thank you!

I should have waited. I searched through that entire thread and finally found the post, took a screenshot, got the link, etc.

At least I can erase that question mark from my mind.
 
  • #705
If parents lied to help him will FBI arrest them? Is it a felony to lie to LE or FBI? Or is that just on tv programs?


Did they arrest the Anthony’s, no and Cindy did falsify info plus more, but this is not the thread to get into that.. I don’t think these parents will be arrested either….I don’t understand why LE on any level will not hold people responsible for interfering with justice especially like this. Even it’s a huge fine…but nothing happens.
 
  • #706
Would that be enough for a jury? Some girls like to scratch during sex and Brian could try to make that claim.

It would certainly add to the circumstantial evidence though.

Do you mean, they like to scratch while they are being throttled? Jeez-if somebody was strangling me during sex, you can be sure that I would scratch him. Anyway, I am not convinced that these two were even having sex at this point; they didn’t seem to be getting along, and BL seemed to have some pretty profound hygiene issues, which might make it unlikely.
 
  • #707
He seems to think pretty highly of himself, so I think he's probably still banking on finding a way out of this.

Yup, he just thinks he'll smooth it all out with the cops, chatting away and being greasy, like he did in that Utah police video.

He'll probably say to the FBI: "Oh, officer, Gabby and I had an argument in Wyoming and broke up. She met some new travelling friends and wanted to stay with them, so Gabby said I could keep her van, as she wouldn't be needing it anymore. I don't know anything about her murder...I just drove back home to see my parents for a few days, then I went hiking around the entire USA by myself."
 
  • #708
...The way we talk about domestic violence matters. “Tragedy” is a word that hides the nature of what happened. Gabby’s death was not a sad, unavoidable accident. It was a crime - homicide.

As the kids say, THIS^
I think advocacy is really starting to make a change with how DV events are accurately described. But there is still so much work to do!!
 
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Did they arrest the Anthony’s, no and Cindy did falsify info plus more, but this is not the thread to get into that.. I don’t think these parents will be arrested either….I don’t understand why LE on any level will not hold people responsible for interfering with justice especially like this. Even it’s a huge fine…but nothing happens.
Was the Anthony’s involved with FBI? Or just locals? My memory evades me on this. Thanks
 
  • #711
This has probably been mentioned, but when ChL joined the search team last week, the FBI probably already knew the cause of death (coroner's report was dated October, 5, 2021).

I'm not sure if it's pertinent, but it came to mind.
 
  • #712
Ted Williams: Brian Laundrie’s behavior ‘befuddling’ after Gabby Petito went missing

Williams said prosecutors need to prove ‘conscious of guilt’ against Laundrie

TED WILLIAMS:

Well, what you have here, unfortunately, at this stage, is more of a circumstantial evidence case. But there have been many individuals convicted on circumstantial evidence. What you have to show, also, here is something that we, as lawyers say, something called conscious of guilt.

And that is the fact that Brian Laundrie returned home on September 1st, without Gabby. And you've got to believe, Neil, that if they lived in a house with Brian's mother and father, the first thing you say is, ‘where is Gabby?’

And so it's just befuddling that on September 6th through 8th, you're going to go camping with Brian without without Gabby. All of these things are part of the puzzle. I would have to also believe that at this stage, the FBI has some physical evidence and they are trying to put that together.

I can tell you what our defense attorneys are going to do in this case. And that is they're going to say, yeah, they were out there in that Grand Teton Park. They had a fight.

Brian then took off and came back across country. He doesn't know what happened to Gabby. I guarantee you that's going to be the defense in this case.

If that is the defense, and they win in court, I guarantee you that we are going to have a lot more dead bodies show up in our National Parks, State Parks, Local Parks, and back alleys. Coroners will be working overtime they will be so busy.
 
  • #713
But this isn't a crime against the US. I think they're gonna kick this to the state. Could be wrong. Would not be the first time! Lol

Edit: I forgot about the fact that they already have fed charges pending. @dacjess just pointed that out. If they tried this piecemeal I'd be surprised. MOO

The credit/debit card fraud in this case is interstate credit card fraud - he crossed state lines using her card, therefore it falls under the jurisdiction of the FBI as multiple states are involved from the state where he came into possession of the card, to the state that was her home address to the state where the card was issued to her.
 
  • #714
But she wasn't found in the National Park.

Does that make a difference?

She was found in Bridger-Teton National Forest, which is within Grand Teton National Park, correct?

ETA: also, where the act of homicide occurs determines where jurisdiction lies for the crime of murder, not where the body is found.
 
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I saw this posted the other day that someone mentioned Gabby's mom last spoke to her daughter the morning of August 30th. Do we know if this is true?
No. Not true.
 
  • #718
If that is the defense, and they win in court, I guarantee you that we are going to have a lot more dead bodies show up in our National Parks, State Parks, Local Parks, and back alleys. Coroners will be working overtime they will be so busy.

That's already started happening! I've read more than 2 stories now stating that a number of bodies been discovered in the process of searching for BL.

*edit: NVM I misunderstood what the poster was saying!
 
  • #719
Ok I think I see what happened and why everyone is confused. "Crimes against the United States" means any federal crime. It doesn't just mean like, terrorism or insurrection. It's not a crime against Uncle Sam or the President. It's anything prohibited by law.

The unauthorized access case that has been filed against Brian is "United States v. Brian Laundrie." Making a bank sad by using someone else's bank card is a crime against the United States.

Murder is a crime against the United States. 18 U.S. Code § 1111 - Murder

Manslaughter is a crime against the United States. 18 U.S. Code § 1112 - Manslaughter

Murdering someone on federal land is a federal crime that will be prosecuted by the feds.

The FBI does not lead investigations in Florida on behalf of a Wyoming county attorney. They lead federal investigations into federal crimes.

Can BL be tried in absentia? Is that a way around the right to a speedy trial?
 
  • #720
I'm not really sure what is going on. Why would the coroner's autopsy memo have been filed in Teton County District Court unless the Teton County court is involved somehow? And had a case to file that document under? There is definitely something going on with this case and the Teton County District Court. imo
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Wyoming Statutes require a death certificate to be filed "for each death which occurs in" Wyoming. See: Wyoming Statutes § 35-1-418 (2019) - Death Registration. :: 2019 Wyoming Statutes :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia
 
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