Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #64

[simplemind]

Maybe that’s why there was no tent at the crime scene, he took it to clean the crime scene and maybe threw it away on his long journey home. Didn’t gabby take shoes off when they got in the van, maybe that’s why her shoes were next to or near her because she left them outside of the tent. All MOO

I also wonder if he was packing up in the dark and didn't realize he left her boots? Or animal scatter? Or maybe if she was covered with a blanket he staged her dying in her sleep?

 

[LRinCA]

The body-cam footage from the 2nd officer, the officer approaches the van and says to BL, "Hey, we got a call about a male hitting a female and the two of them getting in this vehicle and taking off." Gabby is already out of the van at this point.

BL responds, "Sorry, I, I, I, I, don't have time to defend myself by sitting here."

This exchange takes place at about 30 seconds into the footage.

That, along with him being less jovial with this officer, has always bothered me. He doesn't have time to defend himself? Or, he has time to defend himself but not while sitting? Either way, it reads to me, that he believed hitting Gabby was a defensible action on his part. Sorry, it's not.

Given his "... I don't have time..." response, it's no surprise to me that he's "missing". If even just from a moral standpoint, he needs to own up to his actions.

At some point he mentions making it go away. I think that also lends itself to his current fugitive status. MOO.

 

[Claire182]

Me too. But IF it was possible to lift DNA from the neck (besides GP's, of course), and IF the DNA was BL's, by itself that's not terribly helpful for the prosecution.

JMO

Maybe the lack of any one else’s DNA might be useful, so if it’s only BL’s on her and no one else’s that could potentially be an argument for the prosecution IMO

I can't help but wonder how much evidence he destroyed before running after his FL return.

exactly, if she was in the tent and moved to take the tent then surely the autopsy would show that (I know were not privy to it currently) the phones as well, what did he do with them?! Did he smash them near the van so they wouldn’t ping on his journey home, then take the remnants and dispose of them further afield, wouldn’t there be phone screen glass, so many many questions, genuinely why I can’t sleep at night.

 

[kittythehare]

Maybe that’s why there was no tent at the crime scene, he took it to clean the crime scene and maybe threw it away on his long journey home. Didn’t gabby take shoes off when they got in the van, maybe that’s why her shoes were next to or near her because she left them outside of the tent. All MOO

We kept asking whether the tent had returned home with him in the early threads. We got no answers.
It's another possibility that he 'lost' it in the course of his hitchhiking trips.
He could well have stashed it successfully on those journeys together with any other evidence..
He's not completely clueless, he is capable of thinking fast , example his ingratiation of himself to the Moab officers, he was fast!
We're never gonna know, are we?

 

[passionflower]

https://www.researchgate.net/public...f_Latent_Finger_Prints_on_Human_Skin_A_Review

Wow how interesting!

 

[jamicat]

Anybody examine the BL DeSoto pics to see if he has wounds anywhere that can be seen?

If he had wounds , wouldn’t mean he killed her. Clearly they fought, and clearly she got physical too. The big question is if he strangled her and if there would be evidence of that.

 

[cady]

Thank you, it was just so strange for me today when I’d said her feet
look awkward when the news was broadcast and they found her body and then the hiking boots news came out today, such an odd thing for me to notice at the time of her being found.
I really hope they’ve got enough to charge him when/if that time comes, i want him alive and to face punishment, I go between he’s alive to he’s dead so many times through the day, it’s a yo-yo. I hope he knows the reaction of the world to what he’s done and how disgusting he is. All MOO x

A bunch of folks here want to see him alive so that they can see to it that he is executed in the name of the people of the united states. I do not want ANYONE executed in my name. To me, that is barbarism. I want him alive to face justice, which to me, is the remainder of his life incarcerated for the protection of civil society. What he does or doesn't do in prison doesn't matter to me at all. JMO

I can't help but wonder how much evidence he destroyed before running after his FL return.

I think he packed it up and stashed, hid or burned it on his "hike" to colter Bay village....reportedly, when he was picked up hitchhiking back to the campground, he had a back pack which didn't seem particularly full and claimed to have a tarp- but not much equipment for 2 or 3 days hiking and camping in the wilderness. jmo

 

[jamicat]

A bunch of folks here want to see him alive so that they can see to it that he is executed in the name of the people of the united states. I do not want ANYONE executed in my name. To me, that is barbarism. I want him alive to face justice, which to me, is the remainder of his life incarcerated for the protection of civil society. What he does or doesn't do in prison doesn't matter to me at all. JMO

The death penalty is not on the table currently. So that’s not likely to happen.

 

[LietKynes]

At some point he mentions making it go away. I think that also lends itself to his current fugitive status. MOO.

I've also pondered the question of 'enabling' ?
Did anyone in his life also make things 'go away' ?
Or maybe I've followed too many cases here ?
Imo.

 

[NCWatcher]

Maybe the lack of any one else’s DNA might be useful, so if it’s only BL’s on her and no one else’s that could potentially be an argument for the prosecution IMO

True. But as I said before, lovers do touch each other's necks. The absence of someone else's DNA wouldn't convince me by itself if I was on the jury because the "real killer" could have worn gloves. But as part of the case, sure. Not as the "smoking gun" piece of evidence some have suggested.
JMO

 

[simplemind]

I think he packed it up and stashed, hid or burned it on his "hike" to colter Bay village....reportedly, when he was picked up hitchhiking back to the campground, he had a back pack which didn't seem particularly full and claimed to have a tarp- but not much equipment for 2 or 3 days hiking and camping in the wilderness. jmo

Yeah, I'm curious if LE has retraced routes back to Colter Bay on foot...

 

[kittythehare]

If he had wounds , wouldn’t mean he killed her. Clearly they fought, and clearly she got physical too. The big question is if he strangled her and if there would be evidence of that.

Clearly she got physical too?
That is NOT clear at all.

 

[bestill]

I think Gabby's last texts to her mom are going to be very revealing in this case, when BL is caught and charged. Something was going on, clearly LE doesn't want it discussed, at that time and it's important. BL knows and Gabby's mom knows.

 

[esayer]

My speculation... I don't know if the images being discussed ever existed. But here's something to take to the bank... if they were ever captured (and moreso broadcast) even just once... they are somewhere to be found online. No doubt in my mind.

Totally agree, but I follow some of the sleaziest rumor mills, and even they don't have it.

 

[esayer]

If he had wounds , wouldn’t mean he killed her. Clearly they fought, and clearly she got physical too. The big question is if he strangled her and if there would be evidence of that.

yeah 'getting physical' would happen when you're fighting for your life.

 

[kittythehare]

Yeah, I'm curious if LE has retraced routes back to Colter Bay on foot...

Could be worthwhile doing a search of his hitchhiking routes with cadaver dogs.
He probably buried evidence if he hid it.
He had time..

 

[simplemind]

True. But as I said before, lovers do touch each other's necks. The absence of someone else's DNA wouldn't convince me by itself if I was on the jury because the "real killer" could have worn gloves. But as part of the case, sure. Not as the "smoking gun" piece of evidence some have suggested.
JMO

But if they find a mix of their DNA embedded in her neck from her clawing her own neck and trying to pry his hands that could be telling.

 

[cady]

Yeah, I'm curious if LE has retraced routes back to Colter Bay on foot...

Geez I hope so! jmo

 

[Claire182]

True. But as I said before, lovers do touch each other's necks. The absence of someone else's DNA wouldn't convince me by itself if I was on the jury because the "real killer" could have worn gloves. But as part of the case, sure. Not as the "smoking gun" piece of evidence some have suggested.
JMO

I agree I think it will be In conjunction with other evidence even if it’s circumstantial, his behaviour after the fact doesn’t seem like a dotting fiancé, using her cards illegally, taking her van back home, going missing. It all paints a picture and I think with DNA it could certainly sway a jury plus whatever else the FBI has got. I’m hoping so anyway. MOO

 

[NeonSunburst69]

I think Gabby's last texts to her mom are going to be very revealing in this case, when BL is caught and charged. Something was going on, clearly LE doesn't want it discussed, at that time and it's important. BL knows and Gabby's mom knows.

This makes me curious what you think was going on.