Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #78

[cady]

Respectfully snipped by me for space.

What I don't understand is why he keeps doing these interviews. He has no obligation to do so. I posted before, all he had to do since BL's remains were found was to say that his clients are devastated at their son's death and no further statements will be forthcoming from the family at this time and please respect their privacy.

Yet he doesn't. Even worse, he goes out and muddies the waters further and makes his clients look worse in the public eye.

Why? I can't think of any reason. It just doesn't make sense.

He is concerned that they may have some legal jeopardy here, and he has mentioned having talks w FBI about what sort of jeopardy they may be in. So, he is trying to soften up the public's view of them before any of their story comes out. They may be perfectly in the clear, we don't know what they knew and when they knew it and what they did or didn't do about it. We only know that they were heartless toward Gabby's family, and that we see absolutely NO excuse for that. jmo

 

[dkryder]

so SB said he thought he told FBI that brian did not come home "last night" either on monday night or tuesday morning. then SB stated the FBI confirmed it was monday. so if it was monday night that could mean brian left on sunday night or SB wasn't explaining time line well.

 

[kittythehare]

Respectfully snipped by me for space.

What I don't understand is why he keeps doing these interviews. He has no obligation to do so. I posted before, all he had to do since BL's remains were found was to say that his clients are devastated at their son's death and no further statements will be forthcoming from the family at this time and please respect their privacy.

Yet he doesn't. Even worse, he goes out and muddies the waters further and makes his clients look worse in the public eye.

Why? I can't think of any reason. It just doesn't make sense.

His whole approach to a case being watched by the world makes no sense at all.
He causes chaos.
Stated he started representing the L's on 11th.
This contradicts an earlier interview where he defends the L's for not taking the P's calls which happened before 11th.
I suspect he's fighting more for himself than his clients.

 

[LietKynes]

No one is hating on this lawyer, SB.
A lawyer can lie, and it doesn't mean anyone hates him.

Fwiw, SB may not be lying at all !
Especially when he said the Laundrie parents and Brian were "grieving".
It was a simple slip of his tongue or something more sinister, as in trying to muddy the waters.
I think he's telling the truth, insofar as it's being relayed to him.
Later he tries to walk it back and say that BL was used to going for a leisurely hike to clear his mind.
So, which is it, SB ?
Grieving the dreadful loss of a young lady he may have murdered, or just taking a nature hike ?

There are some holes in this case as the story keeps changing.
First BL went missing on the 14th.
Then it was the 13th a week later.
Did BL drive the Mustang to the preserve or not ?
Do the fbi have him on camera at all after his arrival back home the 1st ?
If it was the first of Sept.
No one seems to know for sure.

Have LE definitively have video or photos or other proof BL was back at home after Gabby's death ?
I assume he was back sometime along with the van.
Did BL drive the van back or did his father, CL ?


Again, imo -- the atty. for the Laundrie's is at best careless with his words.
At worst he knows something and is in CYA mode along with others.
LE haven't said this case is over, or closed, if they do say this -- then interest in Gabby's case will fade.

I doubt LE will say this very soon.
The holes in the story given by the lawyer are large enough to drive a semi tractor trailer through !
IMO.

 

[cady]

dbm

 

[Figuring]

Respectfully snipped by me for space.

What I don't understand is why he keeps doing these interviews. He has no obligation to do so. I posted before, all he had to do since BL's remains were found was to say that his clients are devastated at their son's death and no further statements will be forthcoming from the family at this time and please respect their privacy.

Yet he doesn't. Even worse, he goes out and muddies the waters further and makes his clients look worse in the public eye.

Why? I can't think of any reason. It just doesn't make sense.

Edited to add: and why is he so combative? How is that helping?

I just wrote almost the exact same thing lol! IMO the guy likes it too much. Even worse, he must think he’s good at this. I feel he’s completely lost track of his priorities. Jmo.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

He is concerned that they may have some legal jeopardy here, and he has mentioned having talks w FBI about what sort of jeopardy they may be in. So, he is trying to soften up the public's view of them before any of their story comes out. They may be perfectly in the clear, we don't know what they knew and when they knew it and what they did or didn't do about it. We only know that they were heartless toward Gabby's family, and that we see absolutely NO excuse for that. jmo

I follow a LOT of true crime, and I can't think of one instance off the top of my head where a family member was charged with aiding and abetting after the suspect was dead, unless they were suspected to be complicit in the original crime.

Whatever the Laundries did after Brian returned home, they had NOTHING to do with her death. Even if they helped him escape, he's dead now. I just don't think law enforcement has the will or resources to prosecute them for anything. There are much more pressing crimes to pursue.

JMO of course.

 

[kittythehare]

I would mostly agree with this. However, insensitivity, frustration, anger, missteps, or apparent all-around unlikability doth not a liar make. Jmo.

I agree but he lies as well cos y'know days roll into days and nobody leaves home so easy get Monday confused with Tuesday and the moving Mustang saga...
If they're not lies, designed to mislead, what else were they?
He is not in a court of law.
His 'misrememberings' have probably caused utter chaos for a $1.5 mill search.
Etcetera . Ad nauseum. Infinitum.
He's just crossed too many lines that caused too much expense and pain for others.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Post from prior thread and @Sleuthine question about MSM terminology of ‘Gabby Petito from Long Island’… IMO and IIRC, this was mostly a distinction coming out of and repeated by NYC media, which is understandable both as custom (news organizations always want to play up someone’s ‘local interest’ angle); plus this is NYC, we are very possessive of our own. It may have in fact seemed and loomed larger than it was, due to how large and pervasively quoted NYC news tends to be in general. I didn’t really see it as being like someone making any hard and fast legal based claims about GP’s residence in particular.

 

[Balthazar]

I have looked at a lot of maps, read through all the official documents including the search warrant, arrest warrant, FBI posters, and statements. I have watched all the interviews and was present online during pivotal moments. I have heard the discrepancies, heard the clarifications, and considered the "experts'," news anchors', and WS members' views.

Taking all the information I have gathered into context, IMO, the overall big picture is not complicated nor convoluted. There are holes in public knowledge, obviously, which is to be expected, but I do not feel it is necessary to have to force pieces to fit. I also do not think every word out of SB's mouth is a lie. I think he makes mistakes, corrects them, and would not put himself on the line by lying in regards to things the FBI could turn around and refute him on. Taken at face value, the compilation of facts seem to speak for themselves. JMO.

But I feel nearly alone in this assessment.

I agree with your assessment.

 

[PiperAria]

I didn’t understand the focus on the word “grieving” because it is often used, at least colloquially, to describe the reaction to any loss (breakup, missing, heck, I’ve even heard it about a lost job and a bad haircut)…not just death.
But
This statement is odd. Nobody but the person who was with Gabby when she died would have known she was dead on 9/13. Maybe he meant “the speculation that she was dead” but it still doesn’t come off very well IMO

“In an interview with News Nation’s Ashleigh Banfield, attorney Steve Bertolino said Chris and Roberta Laundrie knew that Brian Laundrie would at times go hiking for days with no problem. At the time, Bertolino said, they thought their son was trying to get away from the speculation around the disappearance and death of his fianceé, Gabby Petito.”

link:

Brian Laundrie’s parents ‘weren’t concerned’ he hurt himself at first, lawyer says | WFLA

 

[CarolynAB2]

Hmmm… I went back to listen to the protesters interview with Cassie to see if she mentioned anything about the missing persons report. I didn’t hear anything about that, but I heard something interesting right at the beginning that I hadn’t seen discussed here. Forgive me if I missed a thread!

At the beginning, she states that the parents and Brian showed up in the mustang, not the van, on Sept 1. And then says “I found out [ about the van ] the next day with everybody else.”
Who is Everybody Else? Did the parents not know that he had taken the van until September 2. And, what did they all make of that?

"Everybody else" found out when it came out in the media. I'm sure she meant that she found out when the public found out, through the media news.

 

[BeachSky]

SB must be having nightmares about what is in that notebook.

this^^^^

 

[bluwaters]

It would definitely be good if the notebook contained a confession or explanation or something. But given what (admittedly little) we know about BL, I suspect it's just drawings. Waterlogged drawings. MOO

I am interested in the notebook but am trying not to have expectations that it holds answers to questions.
jmho

 

[ringbearer]

I’m wondering people’s thoughts about the retention date of SB. He said he became “involved” Sept 11 (just as, or immediately after, the van was towed, apparently, based on his timeline).

Then he tells Ashley that anything from Sept 1-10th was privileged. But he hasn’t apparently been retained on those dates—so can privilege really be retrospective?

Thrn when pressed about that by Ashley he said something like, Ive been their lawyer for 20 years so everything they say to me is privileged—does that really work? Is it really a blanket thing like that?

and then, of course if he represented the parents in the juicing business or whatever it was, that still would not have ever included BL, before the 11th, right?

Do I have any of this wrong? Did what he said about legal representation add up to anybody?

JMO

He was saying that he has an ongoing and longstanding attorney-client relationship with the family, thus creating a continuing privilege with respect to their communications about legal issues. He is "on retainer" if you will. Is he right? Idk. But we'll probably never know because I very highly doubt they're going after the Laundries for anything. jmo

 

[Figuring]

so SB said he thought he told FBI that brian did not come home "last night" either on monday night or tuesday morning. then SB stated the FBI confirmed it was monday. so if it was monday night that could mean brian left on sunday night or SB wasn't explaining time line well.

When he modified his statement on Banfield to say that he told the FBI not necessarily that Monday (as he had insisted over numerous interviews) to, now, either that Monday night or Tuesday morning, I was like… I’m out. (But of course I kept watching.)

How do you (him—not you, you!) not know; how do you not speak in the first place before you’re sure; how do you not make a clear retraction, being accountable, but rather just throw a word salad in there; how do you get mad if someone asks, well which one IS it! SMH JMO

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I agree but he lies as well cos y'know days roll into days and nobody leaves home so easy get Monday confused with Tuesday and the moving Mustang saga...
If they're not lies, designed to mislead, what else were they?
He is not in a court of law.
His 'misrememberings' have probably caused utter chaos for a $1.5 mill search.
Etcetera . Ad nauseum. Infinitum.
He's just crossed too many lines that caused too much expense and pain for others.

It was just another Manic Monday.

 

[LAhiker]

I didn’t understand the focus on the word “grieving” because it is often used, at least colloquially, to describe the reaction to any loss (breakup, missing, heck, I’ve even heard it about a lost job and a bad haircut)…not just death.
But
This statement is odd. Nobody but the person who was with Gabby when she died would have known she was dead on 9/13. Maybe he meant “the speculation that she was dead” but it still doesn’t come off very well IMO

“In an interview with News Nation’s Ashleigh Banfield, attorney Steve Bertolino said Chris and Roberta Laundrie knew that Brian Laundrie would at times go hiking for days with no problem. At the time, Bertolino said, they thought their son was trying to get away from the speculation around the disappearance and death of his fianceé, Gabby Petito.”

link:

Brian Laundrie’s parents ‘weren’t concerned’ he hurt himself at first, lawyer says | WFLA

The Ls weren't concerned that BL had hurt himself, but they went looking for him for 3-4 hours? He was grieving something, but at the same time, it was no big deal?

SB's statements, and the case in general, make my head spin.

JMO

 

[NuttMegg]

It's very possible, that last meeting with his attorney was to advise him to turn himself in and he did not want to heed the advice.

We learned from SB last night that he spoke with BL on the 12th and 13th, IIRC. And that (without specific dates) separately with CL and to both parents together. And as Banfield pounced on him.........he spoke to all 3 together at times. Oops.

I really wonder what that conversation was, if that conversation with the lawyer is what made BL leave in so much grief and distress. The lawyer had by that time communicated with the FBI. Maybe SB told BL what they, the FBI, already knew. Or,maybe the lawyer made it sound even worse than it was, to light a fire under BL...to leave. Because, as others have mentioned, SB was having to protect part of his clients, and he knew it was hopeless to protect or represent the 2 different entities...parents vs BL. IMO

Now maybe the lawyer was telling BL to turn himself in, but I really doubt that. He may have been saying something like look at the danger you are putting your folks in. How can you DO that to them.

So the lawyer can try to convince people that Bl left to go on a normal camping trip, but it makes sense to me that Brian left the house in the condition he was in because of guilt as to what he did to gabby, (and the publicity about her gone missing, the van being driven home by him, etc) but mainly from whatever the lawyer told him on the phone.

The lawyer did not appear to be counseling the parents to get Brian home. Just the opposite, IMO.

 

[sirensong]

I just watched that interview with SB and Ashley Bannfield(?) and I have to say, she is one smart cookie. No wonder SB gets angry, she is quick thinking and actually got more out of SB then he meant to tell. SB keeps making the timeline more questionable, because he has now brought Sunday the 12th.