Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #78

[simplemind]

I just watched that interview with SB and Ashley Bannfield(?) and I have to say, she is one smart cookie. No wonder SB gets angry, she is quick thinking and actually got more out of SB then he meant to tell. SB keeps making the timeline more questionable, because he has now brought Sunday the 12th.

I was impressed by that interview too. In the past I've found her to be a bit over the top and at times a little arrogant, like many evening anchors/pundits sound these days. I really enjoyed her tone on her twitter live stream. She wasn't trying to play gotcha and was having a nice engaged conversation with viewers and taking insights from others while offering her own opinions.

 

[Balthazar]

SB must be having nightmares about what is in that notebook.

Why would you say that? Guilty people hire attorneys all the time. SB has nothing to worry about and has not committed any crime. In fact, cases where an attorney represents someone who is guilty is not the exception, but rather the rule. SB has already stated that he does not know if BL killed Gabby. Whatever story BL told him is client-attorney privilege and SB doesn't have to reveal that to anyone. Worst case scenario, the notebook contains a confession which will explain what happened and why. SB has nothing to fear from that. There is no murder indictment for BL much less a plea that SB had to file with the court. With luck Gabby's remains had physical evidence that will prove who killed her. Then the case is over.

 

[BeachSky]

WHERE are all Gabbys things?
I would want my DD things from her stay there in Florida. AND the van. Give them to me!

MOO

 

[Figuring]

RSBM And anyone that the killer told

Oh yes, that would be true too. But only one person we know of so far was grieving/distressed enough to run away to a swamp! Jmo

 

[squareandrabbet]

WHERE are all Gabbys things?
I would want my DD things from her stay there in Florida. AND the van. Give them to me!

MOO

IMO, Joseph and Nicole may in fact be preparing to have to sue for them.

either that, or alternatively LE is interested in them as evidence.

 

[simplemind]

Chris and SB are acting so unusual, I have to think that Brian admitted the murder. That info would cause them to be so extremely deliberate, cautious, and mysterious. IMO

when Banfield asked SB point blank “did Brian kill gabby?” and “did Brian tell his parents he killed gabby?” I got a strong sense that SB knows it’s yes. And yes. He paused, stammered, blushed ever so slightly. Anyone else see it?

I wonder if Brian eventually told them the same thing he said in Moab, “she was crazily attacking me and I was trying to hold her back “ he has the Moab incident to back up his story. So they all blame her and tried to protect Brian

I think the closest thing to a confession from BL would be one where he remains the victim; such as an act of self defense that led to her accidental death.

 

[Jurisprudence]

As soon as she started questioning about who was involved in the conversations, I immediately thought, here we go. Finally someone thought about that privilege loophole. Then she waited until the end to actually ask it and I wanted to literally cry. I sincerely hope this interview continues on Monday or the next reporter was watching and picks that up for their interview.

I don't think he's coming back Monday, MOO. I think he knows that would not be smart. But who knows, perhaps he thinks he is still the smartest. My advice to this guy, not that he'd ever take it, stop talking. Just stop. Stop talking, stop texting, stop it all. While it is true that lying to the press is not a crime, it is also true that you are putting statements on the record every single time you do it. JMO

 

[SMK777]

It’s strange to me that the park was re-opened yesterday. I thought they would be searching for more bones, to re-construct his body…….to find out COS. Also, what about the possible gun?

It’s very strange, yes. Unless they have found the gun and more remains but are keeping it under wraps. I believe reporter Brian Entin said he was told there was more evidence, but they weren’t disclosing it. (Linked upthread on NewsNation).

 

[Mom24]

I don't think he's coming back Monday, MOO. I think he knows that would not be smart. But who knows, perhaps he thinks he is still the smartest. My advice to this guy, not that he'd ever take it, stop talking. Just stop. Stop talking, stop texting, stop it all. While it is true that lying to the press is not a crime, it is also true that you are putting statements on the record every single time you do it. JMO

It is a crime if he told the FBI one thing and is now saying another.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I’m wondering people’s thoughts about the retention date of SB. He said he became “involved” Sept 11 (just as, or immediately after, the van was towed, apparently, based on his timeline).

Then he tells Ashley that anything from Sept 1-10th was privileged. But he hasn’t apparently been retained on those dates—so can privilege really be retrospective?

Thrn when pressed about that by Ashley he said something like, Ive been their lawyer for 20 years so everything they say to me is privileged—does that really work? Is it really a blanket thing like that?

and then, of course if he represented the parents in the juicing business or whatever it was, that still would not have ever included BL, before the 11th, right?

Do I have any of this wrong? Did what he said about legal representation add up to anybody?

JMO

Yes. Anything I tell my lawyer is privileged. Even if it happened 10 years ago. Privilege applies to the communication itself.

 

[Jurisprudence]

At this point, I'm most interested to find out, assuming the notebook has anything written in it and it's salvageable, whether or not Brian wrote anything to either refute or suggest that his parents had any knowledge of anything.

My guess is he absolutely refuted it if he mentions it all. He will be apologizing for putting them through it. I say this because if he actually did go "to" the swamp at a later date after seeing what was happening to them, he did so solely to protect them and his sister.

It would be counterintuitive for him to then out his parents after having already committed (emotionally) to removing himself from the equation. This is JMO thinking out loud.

 

[esayer]

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I think SB is feeling sorta guilty about something...like maybe something he said to Brain caused him to kill himself, and he's desperately trying to convince himself Brain would have done it no matter what. IMO. Just seems like he's really defending himself against small details. IMO IMO IMMO

 

[sirensong]

I just watched that interview with SB and Ashley Bannfield(?) and I have to say, she is one smart cookie. No wonder SB gets angry, she is quick thinking and actually got more out of SB then he meant to tell. SB keeps making the timeline more questionable, because he has now brought Sunday the 12th.

 

[Figuring]

Yes. Anything I tell my lawyer is privileged. Even if it happened 10 years ago. Privilege applies to the communication itself.

I see—so even if you told them before they were formally retained, because they are a lawyer. Thanks, this is an area that I have little knowledge of & often defies my assumptions!

 

[CharlestonGal]

He's been utterly insensitive to Gabby's disappearance and death. 'Brian just took her credit cards', text dropped into media's phones in the midst of the coroner's announcement of her COD.
He has now decided that attack is his best method of defence because he dislikes the public push-back.
A wiser lawyer might have advised them to open up, do interviews and the public could well have met them with compassion and understanding.

When Cassie was asked whether she believed her parents were helping BL to hide, she replied very simply 'I don't know'.
He did a bad job and he still does not realise that the very worst thing one can do while in a hole is to dig.

This disrespects Gabby. <modsnip>

By that train of logic, every lawyer is "insensitive" to the victims of a crime. They are hired solely to protect the rights and interests of the client that retained them. No one else. imo

 

[cady]

I’m fascinated by the “grieving” issue. I work in a psychology practice, & we use the word grieving pretty liberally, the vast majority of times to do with abrupt life changes, trauma exposures, etc, definitely not exclusively to do with a death.

Why I’m fascinated is because SB walked that word back so fully—it was the wrong word, he said, & he had said it because he was tired. Ok, that could be true. However, he could have so easily said something like, “everyone wants to take it the wrong way, BL was obviously grieving that they broke up in Wyoming.” But instead, he says BL actually wasn’t grieving, like at all, for anything.

The idea that he so fully backed away from that word suggests to me that there had only been one connotation in mind when he used that word—that of a death. The other possible interpretations for “grieving” weren’t in his mind both at the time he used it, or after, when asked about its possible implications.

And of course, as you mentioned too, anyone grieving the death of Gabby on Sept 13 was the killer, because only the killer knew she was dead then.

JMO

And possibly, the killer's parents and their lawyer. jmo

 

[NuttMegg]

I was impressed by that interview too. In the past I've found her to be a bit over the top and at times a little arrogant, like many evening anchors/pundits sound these days. I really enjoyed her tone on her twitter live stream. She wasn't trying to play gotcha and was having a nice engaged conversation with viewers and taking insights from others while offering her own opinions.

Is she an attorney?

 

[CarolynAB2]

I’m fascinated by the “grieving” issue. I work in a psychology practice, & we use the word grieving pretty liberally, the vast majority of times to do with abrupt life changes, trauma exposures, etc, definitely not exclusively to do with a death.

Why I’m fascinated is because SB walked that word back so fully—it was the wrong word, he said, & he had said it because he was tired. Ok, that could be true. However, he could have so easily said something like, “everyone wants to take it the wrong way, BL was obviously grieving that they broke up in Wyoming.” But instead, he says BL actually wasn’t grieving, like at all, for anything.

The idea that he so fully backed away from that word suggests to me that there had only been one connotation in mind when he used that word—that of a death. The other possible interpretations for “grieving” weren’t in his mind both at the time he used it, or after, when asked about its possible implications.

And of course, as you mentioned too, anyone grieving the death of Gabby on Sept 13 was the killer, because only the killer knew she was dead then.

JMO

That's a possibility, but it could be that he had been using the word so much over a couple of days in reference to BL's parents that he mistakenly used it in reference to BL. I can understand doing that, especially when tired.

 

[Figuring]

And possibly, the killer's parents and their lawyer. jmo

Yep definitely, that’s an important point I overlooked. It’s telling which of the bunch went to the swamp IMO.

I was just sitting here reflecting on how they’ve never even floated, even partially, an alternative theory of the case…

 

[x_files]

This is something I believe. I think SB might have wanted to negotiate info on her location for a plea and have BL turn himself in. A very reasonable way to proceed as many had suggested early on.

I agree if he did admit to killing her, I would think a good attorney would advise him to take that route too.