Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #78

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  • #201
I believe the lawyer and parents became involved shortly after the murder, while Brian was still in Wyoming. Everything up until his disappearance was an attempt to alibi him. It failed.
MOO
You know, that’s a great point. It absolutely never occurred to me that there could have been some version he had told to the parents &/or legal discussions anywhere between Aug 27/28(?) to 31, before he got home. Jmo
 
  • #202
Total speculation here but the first thing I thought when ChL found the bag then LE found remains made me want to know. 1- Did LE find a camp hammock or tent? and 2- Was the reason ChL was able to find the dry bag off trail because he had been there to meet BL before and/or left it there himself upon returning 9/14 to (unsuccessfully) check on BL?
MORE good observations. We know from their YouTube that he was big on the hammock and was thrilled that he could finally put it up in Utah. MOO

And, if he was in there, he would have to be elevated - OFF the ground (or likely be eaten). MOO
 
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  • #203
I would disagree with you, given my knowledge of its use. I actually know of a few folks who have used it for their grown children. One drug influenced, two were strong mental disorder related. In the family cases I am aware of the parents really did think it was a last resort.... A couple of them were more disappointed that the court system did NOT hold them longer than the 72 hours.

As in any controversial Act... I am sure there are 360 different views on this one!!!
I always respect another perspective, and in alignment with your statement, I also stated, “most people, I believe, would be seeking it as a last resort”. There are some nightmare stories with Baker Act- as there are with other laws that give an individual’s control over to the power of another. Many would not even consider it as an option. Perhaps the Ls were in that camp.
 
  • #204
We know little about BL's past. Only one friend of his from his past has stepped forward to describe BL. Yes, it takes time to strangle someone. Why didn't BL have friends in high school. There are a few things that could make a person zone out for awhile which means he was mentally ill, not evil. I look at it this way. Gabby loved Brian and she knew him for years. If he was an evil creature, don't you think she would have known? I think BL has some problems we don't know about. Do I think what he did was okay? NO NO NO. What he did was evil, very evil. However, Gabby up until toward the end, saw and loved BL. What made him snap at the end when he killed her? If he was pure evil, he would not have had enough remorse to kill himself at the end. MOO
His whole approach to a case being watched by the world makes no sense at all.
He causes chaos.
Stated he started representing the L's on 11th.
This contradicts an earlier interview where he defends the L's for not taking the P's calls which happened before 11th.
I suspect he's fighting more for himself than his clients.
I think he's trying to ride the coattails of the fame/notoriety of this case for future gain. Since he's such a hothead and rather inept, I don't think it's gonna work out great for him. Stating that the parents said/knew conveyed to him that Brian was grieving when he left to "hike" on that Monday was pretty much the death knell for him as even a decent DA.
 
  • #205
He was found in the Myakkahatchee Environmental Park. So many articles and so much information getting thrown around, it's difficult to keep track. IMO.

It is probably confusing because the officials basically named both reserves in their announcement. Even though they are separate but adjoining places.

“A comparison of dental records confirmed that the human remains found at the T Mabry Carlton Jr Memorial Reserve and Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park are those of Brian Laundrie,” investigators said in a statement.
Police reveal hidden cameras at Laundrie home - follow live
 
  • #206
I hope the Laundries are not stupid enough to be paying SB for his publicity rounds. He may consider what he is doing as PR and rehabilitation of his clients, but it’s just churning up the muck and making the public more skeptical.
 
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Tbh, I didn't delve too deep into his privilege arguments bc, well, tbh, I don't buy them. At all. I think he was contacted before BL arrived home. I think he may have done occasional work for them on their properties and maybe even reviewing a few juicer licensing agreements, etc. I don't buy that he is the FAMILY attorney for decades. I don't believe drafting agreements or handling a closings here and there (if at all) gives you attorney/client privilege for a client's son's possible murder indictment. I just don't buy it, so I stopped paying attention to him on this point a long time ago. This is JMO Not fact.
Thank you, I had been wondering these exact things too.
 
  • #209
If he was going there just to commit suicide why would he bring all that stuff with him?

We don't know yet if he went there with this intention. This is why the narrowed date of death will be so important IMO. If he is determined to have been deceased since the 13th or 14th, I'd think it is logical to say he went there for this purpose and the parents exposure is significantly diminished which is good for them. MOO
 
  • #210
If he was going there just to commit suicide why would he bring all that stuff with him?

I'm not sure why he would do any of the things he did? He could have just stayed at the scene of the crime with GP and ended his life then. Whatever his COD is determined to be, I'm not sure they could dismiss the fact that someone may have found him first and killed him. Be it vigilante or someone known to him. Whether it was a gunshot or slit wrists or death by consuming something, every last one could have occurred while he was at gunpoint and forced to do so. IMO.
 
  • #211
I have a few questions and I hope this goes up as a new comment rather than a reply. If not my apologies and feel free to school me.
1) The Merry Piglets - Has the Manager or Wait Staff come forward yet to divulge what the argument was about? I know the patron from New Orleans did but the restaurant employees had not.
2) Moab video- Does anyone recall the date it was released? That's the day I started paying attention to this case & when it blew up big. I think if it directly precedes BL going on his "hike" it's likely he offed himself pretty soon after he went to the park.
 
  • #212
I just wrote almost the exact same thing lol! IMO the guy likes it too much. Even worse, he must think he’s good at this. I feel he’s completely lost track of his priorities. Jmo.

This is my view, as well.

Since Gabby and Brian are both dead, the searches are over, there's not much left for us to dissect except the Laundries and their lawyer. This seems to be the dominant theme in the threads now.

It feels to me that SB has played and continues to play an outsized role in this tragic saga. He's the story right now. That's partly because he's our only conduit to the Ls and to Brian, since he spoke to them all and we haven't heard from them.

Yet IMO he's everywhere at once, on every news outlet, and he's embracing the fame/notoriety that he's receiving. I understand he has a practice on Long Island, but in as gigantic a situation as this became, I don't understand why he didn't fly down to Florida a few times to interact with the Laundries in person. Maybe if he'd talked to Brian face to face he may have been able to persuade him to surrender to LE. Or in a more hands-on situation he'd have been able to persuade the Laundries to handle it differently, or follow Brian to the park, or anything else where the interaction in person would be more effective than long-distance handling. He certainly had no other case that was bigger than this, though I know he has a duty to his other clients on Long Island.

IMO this guy is a certain type, a type I know very well. Obnoxious big-mouth who doesn't care that he's berating a female journalist on national TV. He cares about his reputation but likes having the tough guy image. Any battles he's previously had in local real-estate were relatively nothing compared to being famous and on TV.

I agree that he's lost sight of his priorities, which should have been a different resolution for the Laundrie family and for Brian in particular, and not the self-aggrandizing <modsnip: removed derogatory reference> he's apparently thrilled to portray. Otherwise he'd decline these interviews. And show more respect to the Petitos.

Jmo
 
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  • #213
I don't buy SB's story that the reason they went to look for him was because it was the first day open to the public. LE would have made arrangements for them whenever they wanted.
 
  • #214
MORE good observations. We know from their YouTube that he was big on the hammock and was thrilled that he could finally put it up in Utah. MOO

And, if he was in there, he would HAVE to be elevated - OFF the ground. MOO
LOL. If he was planning on staying awhile... jmo
 
  • #215
I have a few questions and I hope this goes up as a new comment rather than a reply. If not my apologies and feel free to school me.
1) The Merry Piglets - Has the Manager or Wait Staff come forward yet to divulge what the argument was about? I know the patron from New Orleans did but the restaurant employees had not.
2) Moab video- Does anyone recall the date it was released? That's the day I started paying attention to this case & when it blew up big. I think if it directly precedes BL going on his "hike" it's likely he offed himself pretty soon after he went to the park.
1) don't know, sorry
2) 16th sept I believe, and 2nd body cam footage was 1st oct imo
 
  • #216
I would disagree with you, given my knowledge of its use. I actually know of a few folks who have used it for their grown children. One drug influenced, two were strong mental disorder related. In the family cases I am aware of the parents really did think it was a last resort.... A couple of them were more disappointed that the court system did NOT hold them longer than the 72 hours.

As in any controversial Act... I am sure there are 360 different views on this one!!!
You need.to.prove they are harmful to themselves.or.to others!
Best way is to call Law.Enforcememt! They will.baker act the individual! They then get put in the psych behavioral facility in Sarasota for 3 days maybe longer. Depends!
You cant.just.have.someone
I always respect another perspective, and in alignment with your statement, I also stated, “most people, I believe, would be seeking it as a last resort”. There are some nightmare stories with Baker Act- as there are with other laws that give an individual’s control over to the power of another. Many would not even consider it as an option. Perhaps the Ls were in that camp.
Sometimes.its.the only option!
 
  • #217
I agree and I thought it was overload on how many times he said “Ashley”. That is tactical. We all knew who he was talking to.
IMO Ashleigh took him to task because of the way he treated news nation host Marni.
Marni showed great restraint !
It was epic how Ash called him out.

JMO
 
  • #218
I don't buy SB's story that the reason they went to look for him was because it was the first day open to the public. LE would have made arrangements for them whenever they wanted.

Especially since it was the second day it was open to the public....
 
  • #219
Maybe that was to throw off LE/FBI. I don’t know how exactly other than I personally don’t think it was just a coincidence that they came upon his belongings so quickly.
I'm not really seeing the coincidence here. They knew where he was. They told LE where he was. They searched where knew he was. And there he was.

Its not like they stumbled across the items and remains in a corn field in Iowa. He was exactly where they said he was from the start. jmo
 
  • #220
I think the FL Baker Act is often unkown & when known, a very scary option. Most people, I believe, would be seeking it as a last resort. BL was acting upset before he left. C&R may have not believed he was “suicidal” upset until much later & in retrospect. And many suicidal people act very calm & content after making their decision. If you Baker Act someone, they become under the control of “professionals” for 72 hours. If those “professionals” determine mental health help is needed, they can continue to exercise control over the patient for up to 6 months, during which time they can refuse or restrict visitation. If you are the type of person who has blind trust of an unknown “professional”, maybe Baker Acting is an option. I personally would not ever seek to Baker Act someone. If I thought my loved one was suicidal, I’d seek pretty much any & every intervention other than Baker Act. But that’s just me.

ETA link. How Do You Baker Act in Florida & Why Would You Want To?
Thanks, even though you were replying to someone else. :D
A question : Is it a conflict of interest if the lawyer SB was representing BL and the parents at the same time ?
Or does it fall under multiple party agreements ?
I am totally interested in what was said between BL, SB, and the parents !

Because there may be a clue there as to why BL committed suicide -- if he did ?
If not suicide, a poisonous snake or gator contributed to his demise ?
MOO.

*venomous snake
 
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