Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #79

[Cindizzi]

I don’t know for a fact that NPPD/someone else didn’t say that. It’s possible she had to beg Long Island LE to take the report.

Suffolk Detective Who Opened Gabby Petito’s Case An ‘Angel’: Mom

Nichole Schmidt, speaking publicly on Tuesday for the first time since her daughter's remains were found Sept. 19 in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming, said she did not think she could "thank everybody enough." She credited The AWARE Foundation for creating the first missing persons poster that reached over 2 million people worldwide within 48 hours.

And Schmidt credited Det. Tracey Barry of the 5th Precinct in Patchogue for starting the case, saying "without her, we don't know when this would have even happened."

"She got the ball rolling," Schmidt said at a news conference, adding, "She's my angel, and I thank her the most."

Petito was reported missing to Suffolk police on Sept. 11, and an alert was issued the following day.


In a previous interview, Schmidt told Patch that she was having difficulty filing a missing persons report. Family attorney Rick Stafford of Bohemia said there were jurisdictional issues involving police in North Port, Florida — where Petito had been living the past two years — in Wyoming, and with the National Parks Service.

Schmidt was able to file a report with Suffolk straightaway, he said.
"They were fantastic," he added.

 

[Balthazar]

Agreed.
Even LE wasn't wearing gloves when they collected the evidence.
Is there a good explanation for that?

Nope.

 

[cady]

Well, I think she was probably much like anyone else, a human being. Being described as an angel would be pretty difficult to live up to. Imo

Agree, with all our frailties. It's common practice lately for lots of people to attach wings to photos of the deceased...which is a bit bizarre, to me, but if it somehow lessens their grief, I guess it's harmless. jmo

 

[esayer]

I don't agree with his response, but I do understand it. Think of a situation where two mothers take their girls to the park. One little girl throws trash on the ground. In front of everyone.

To have everyone continually say your little girl is a bad person, but the other little girl is perfect would grate after awhile. MY girl would never do that. MY girl is perfect. YOUR girl is irresponsible. YOUR girl should be punished. I'M a great mom. YOUR girl was raised badly.

All the while you're remembering the minor infractions the perfect girl made throughout the years. After awhile, I can see the Mom of the littering girl to snap back that the other girl wasn't so perfect either. Just human nature. Though as I said, extremely ill advised.

This is a very simplistic answer. Obviously murder does not equate to ANYTHING Gabby may have done. But the emotions behind the statements are the same.

Again, Gabby is the murdered victim.

 

[mi_hiker]

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I think this stems from a poorly worded quote from Nancy Grace.

Brian Laundrie case: Family grieves in private following son's death, lawyer says: LIVE UPDATES

Laundrie’s remains were sent to a forensic anthropologist to try and determine a cause of death. Grace pointed out that there has been no DNA match and only a partial skull was recovered at the scene.

 

[Hyway]

Unless you think someone murdered BL, what would it matter. If they were articles of Gabby's, they would have BL's DNA on them regardless due to their relationship. Even if the L family DNA or fingerprints showed up on the items, it would reveal nothing since he was living in the L family house.

And the most likely candidate for that isn't a Laundrie, so anyone who pushed that scenario might get into something they would rather not if it turned out to be true.

 

[Hyway]

Again, Gabby is the murdered victim.

Pretty sure that requirement is only applicable to WS posters and not to SB.

 

[Katerz]

I think this stems from a poorly worded quote from Nancy Grace.

Brian Laundrie case: Family grieves in private following son's death, lawyer says: LIVE UPDATES

Laundrie’s remains were sent to a forensic anthropologist to try and determine a cause of death. Grace pointed out that there has been no DNA match and only a partial skull was recovered at the scene.

okay that's what I thought. But they matched the teeth, so there it goes.

 

[esayer]

It must be easier to kill men then. Statistics say that in the US 4 times as many men are murdered than women. So I don't see what is the point in calling it easy or "not difficult", either one.

Murder in the U.S.: victims by race/ethnicity and gender 2020 | Statista

Yeah men are violent and kill other men as well as their wives and girlfriends. These murderous men need to maybe learn some anger management IMO.

 

[esayer]

Pretty sure that requirement is only applicable to WS posters and not to SB.

Not sure what you're talking about.

 

[cottonweaver]

WFLANow has started

 

[Simply Southern]

Suffolk Detective Who Opened Gabby Petito’s Case An ‘Angel’: Mom

Nichole Schmidt, speaking publicly on Tuesday for the first time since her daughter's remains were found Sept. 19 in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming, said she did not think she could "thank everybody enough." She credited The AWARE Foundation for creating the first missing persons poster that reached over 2 million people worldwide within 48 hours.

And Schmidt credited Det. Tracey Barry of the 5th Precinct in Patchogue for starting the case, saying "without her, we don't know when this would have even happened."

"She got the ball rolling," Schmidt said at a news conference, adding, "She's my angel, and I thank her the most."

Petito was reported missing to Suffolk police on Sept. 11, and an alert was issued the following day.


In a previous interview, Schmidt told Patch that she was having difficulty filing a missing persons report. Family attorney Rick Stafford of Bohemia said there were jurisdictional issues involving police in North Port, Florida — where Petito had been living the past two years — in Wyoming, and with the National Parks Service.

Schmidt was able to file a report with Suffolk straightaway, he said.
"They were fantastic," he added.

NPPD didn't make it easy in GPs family. In the UT video we saw GP had a FL drivers license, so NPPD ignored this. GP was only visiting her mother in NY for a family event.

No way can JT spin this into making NPPD look good. Damage control is not working. Does he forget we have been following his every word.

NPPD needs to apologize in order to save some credibility. Not looking good.

I am so upset NS had to fight to file a MPR.
Moo....

 

[Hyway]

It's not up to us to determine, that but for LE/FBI. You'd be shocked how some things don't look weathered but are. We cannot see inside the bottle from a photo.

BBM
If we used that for everything discussed here we wouldn't discuss very much.

I have two positions concerning the water bottle. First, the park was open to the public so anything found out there after that is pretty suspect (especially given who it was found by.) 2nd, what does it matter? If his backpack, his notebook, his drybag, his teeth and his skull aren't enough to confirm its him what does the water bottle add to the case. Should LE go out and collect every bit of flotsum within floating distance of the remains site, flag it for measurement from the remains site and have it all tested in the lab to see if its relevant to a case that, if its BL, which they must feel certain it is, is never going to trial.

 

[Mom24]

Suffolk Detective Who Opened Gabby Petito’s Case An ‘Angel’: Mom

Nichole Schmidt, speaking publicly on Tuesday for the first time since her daughter's remains were found Sept. 19 in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming, said she did not think she could "thank everybody enough." She credited The AWARE Foundation for creating the first missing persons poster that reached over 2 million people worldwide within 48 hours.

And Schmidt credited Det. Tracey Barry of the 5th Precinct in Patchogue for starting the case, saying "without her, we don't know when this would have even happened."

"She got the ball rolling," Schmidt said at a news conference, adding, "She's my angel, and I thank her the most."

Petito was reported missing to Suffolk police on Sept. 11, and an alert was issued the following day.


In a previous interview, Schmidt told Patch that she was having difficulty filing a missing persons report. Family attorney Rick Stafford of Bohemia said there were jurisdictional issues involving police in North Port, Florida — where Petito had been living the past two years — in Wyoming, and with the National Parks Service.

Schmidt was able to file a report with Suffolk straightaway, he said.
"They were fantastic," he added.

What a different outcome this case would have had if Det Barry hadn't taken it seriously.

 

[Addicted2Crime]

Has there been any clue as to why Brian drove all the way, clear across the country, to die, when he could have done the same thing, with perhaps less scrutiny, and probably less pressure , in Wyoming?...

Is there something I've missed about the conditions more conducive to suicide in Florida, as opposed to Wyoming?..

It is hard to believe that a weekend camp at Fort De Soto was the candy on the stick that provoked that drive home. Surely that can't be it.

I think he went home because he thought he would get away with it and her body wouldn’t be found (and if she was found it wouldn’t have been that fast).

edit: changed it to her when describing Gabby.

 

[Mom24]

NPPD didn't make it easy in GPs family. In the UT video we saw GP had a FL drivers license, so NPPD ignored this. GP was only visiting her mother in NY for a family event.

No way can JT doin this into making NPPD look good. Damage control is not working. Does he forget we have been following his every word.

NPPD needs to apologize in order to save some credibility. Not looking good.

I am so upset NS had to fight to file a MPR.
Moo....

Along with what Moab learned in regards to DV, NPPD may want to reassess how they handle MPR's.

 

[JudgeJoe]

No one is perfect. I for one am glad this won’t go to trial. A criminal lawyer would absolutely try to trash Gabby, and anyone else they could in order to mount a defense. Every detail would be brought forth about both Gabby and Brian. Autopsy, toxicology, SM, Texts, What they both were involved in, friends, etc. Possibly details that would haunt all the parents involved upon hearing such things.
Sometimes it better not to know, or not to hear it all.
Better to move forward now and try to focus on how to prevent such tragedies from occurring.
MOO.

So well said & ita. I think of all the families with loved ones never found & the killer never known. In this situation, there’s the Moab bodycam, she’s been found, he’s deceased. The details are obvious enough. The rest? “Let it be”. Jmo. Mho.

For the future… A recent ID Special Report Gabby Petito (I linked many threads back) featured an established organization that facilitates workshops for young adults (or anyone) to learn the signs of a healthy vs unhealthy relationship & how to behave to have the former. It seems like you have to register to host these. Wish they made the info more readily available to anyone, anonymously, online. Perhaps the GP Foundation can work in partnership with this one to improve availability. Just my thoughts.

The organization featured by experts on the ID Go special regarding Gabby is below.

#thatsnotlove
One Love Foundation

 

[cottonweaver]

It's not up to us to determine, that but for LE/FBI. You'd be shocked how some things don't look weathered but are. We cannot see inside the bottle from a photo.

Also just wanted to add X, that a river flows through our property. Basically this means that during high flow periods we can occasionally lose stuff from the riverbanks into the river. ( gardening stuff, buckets etc)

Typically we find them later, down stream during low flow periods, sometimes many months later. ( Our river is fast-flowing & all stones & boulders as we're mountainous here. ) Anyway even in harsh water conditions like ours, often not much damage to print & colour on surfaces

 

[Hyway]

Yeah men are violent and kill other men as well as their wives and girlfriends. These murderous men need to maybe learn some anger management IMO.

No disagreement from me. Just saying its apparently easier for men to kill men than it is than for men to kill women since they do it more often. Although if you just limit the discussion to a comparison type of killer rather than how often someone is killed, I am not sure which way that would go because men who are killed are more likely to be killed by a stranger or non-intimate acquaintance, while women who are killed are usually killed by a spouse or intimate acquaintance. IE men killing men is more likely to be either gang related or random, while men killing women is more likely to be very personal. So I do agree that women should be much more selective of men they invite into their lives and steer clear of men who need to learn anger management.

Men, women, and murder: gender-specific differences in rates of fatal violence and victimization - PubMed

 

[simplemind]

I have seen posts even here, that claim Brian was a serial killer who just didn't have enough time to kill additional girls. Or that the bodies of his past victims have not been found yet. And that the murder was planned for months. Those voices are magnified across the internet. And extreme, negative voices are the ones most often heard and repeated. He has been described as evil, a monster, etc.

Though I do think Brian killed Gabby, I'm not personally comfortable with such labels. I don't know Brian. I don't know what happened. Gabby loved him. His family loved him. He was remorseful enough that he (most likely) took his own life. Surely there was more to Brian than just being a cold killer.

SBs statement about Gabby was ill advised. And nothing excuses her death. But I do understand the frustration of having a loved one vilified and Gabby portrayed as an angel. Extreme viewpoints are rarely true.

Dave Chappelle once referred to twitter as the "bathroom wall of the internet", and I think that could be applied to many corners of social media; taking social media theories as substantial positions and using Ted Bundy to soften the character of your client is just so weak. Total strawman