CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct. 2012 - #23

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Woke up thinking about the light turnout of trick-or-treaters on Halloween night in the Westminister and surrounding communities....

Still too early to size up this Austin Sigg with a great deal of exactitude! Well, I will disclose to you a small moment of mental insightfulness I had, when seeing Sigg`s mug shot for the first time yesterday. What I`ve been asking all along, is, or was Jessica`s killer one and the same as the man we`ve been calling the Candy Man? I looked at the police sketch, then gazed at the police photo of Austin. The similarities are there! Been Midnight Rambling these neighborhoods for quite a long time (I thought to myself).

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21844711/arrest-made-jessica-ridgeway-case
 
cece5300 said:
Can someone please help me understand why there are 4 1st degree murder charges? Is murder during a kidnapping always classified as 1st degree murder? Is it that type of thing?
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http://www.9news.com/news/article/296904/339/Suspect-in-Ridgeway-case-charged-as-adult

"That is based on a death occurring during the commission of one of three separate felonies: robbery, sexual assault and kidnapping. That's first-degree murder - just another type of the same crime."
 
Slightly OT. I know a lady who lives a few houses down from Jessica's house. She said that the neighborhood has been trying to reach out to the Ridgeway family and that some of the neighbors carved pumpkins and put them on the porch and yard of the Ridgeway house. She said it looked pretty cool.

Its meloncholy realizing that many people do not know their neighbors. But then a tragedy makes people want to do what they can to ease a neighbor's pain, even in a small way.
 
otto said:
I remember an interview with a girl that knew Austin and I believe she said that they met through church.

"Danni says she dated Sigg twice, first when he was an 8th grader at Wayne Carl Middle School and again when he was a freshman at Standley Lake High School.

"He was so sweet and so kind. I know that heart is still in him. But sometimes things happen that change people," Danni said.

She says they first met at Warehouse: 180 in Arvada, which is a gathering place for Christian teens. It may help explain the small wooden cross Westminster police call a vital clue.

"We went to church together. It wouldn't surprise me if he wore a cross. He always wore a necklace similar to the one in his mug shot," Danni said.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/34...pect-Austin-Sigg-was-sweet-ex-girlfriend-says
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BBM...When she refers to "things happen that change people"...I wonder what is she referring to? Does she know of something that potentially caused this change in AS? I wonder if his friends were aware that things had happened to him and were trying to be a support group...but never saw the "other" side of AS.
It just makes me wonder what she's referring to when she says "things happen". :waitasec:
 
MOO, Austin Reed Sigg, has a juvenile record and was involved in drugs. More than likely meth related, imo. There seems to be an epidemic of psychopathic personalities created due to chronic meth use.
I would also be more interested in his adolescence *advertiser censored* addiction and the specific reasons for his required treatment..
Although all ARS juvenile records have been sealed and a gag order issued by the Judge in this case, the truth will eventually come out..imo.
Until then, guess all we can do is state our opinions and rely on the experts that report Austin Reed Sigg's violent, and bizarre deviant behavior rarely occurs with their first or even second victim:


Austin Sigg would be a rarity among teen killers if convicted

"Nobody just wakes up and does this one day," McCrary said.
There must have been earlier evidence, said Roger Depue, a retired chief of behavioral science for the FBI who teaches about violent crime behavior at the University of Virginia and through his company, the Academy Group Inc.
"It usually first involves cruelty to animals," said Depue. "This murder (of Ridgeway) was so violent, so bizarre. The literature shows disturbing patterns of violent fantasies begin at an early age."

Read more: Austin Sigg would be a rarity among teen killers if convicted - The Denver Post

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...ld-be-rarity-among-teen-killers#ixzz2Ayci32sz
 
eileenhawkeye said:
No one was trick-or-treating in my state either. That's because we just had a hurricane. It was rescheduled for Monday, because we realize just how important something like that is for kids, and how they wait all year for it. I don't understand why these parents don't go trick-or-treating with their kids. You're telling me that a group of kids, not one parent can go T&Ting with them? What did these parents do other years?

Kids on the East Coast can't go trick-or-treating because their homes are gone, flooding, trees are down, power lines down, etc. Kids in Colorado can't go trick-or-treating because....???
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Because numerous reports of attempted child abductions. I get them almost weekly from the school district.
 
Forensic fan said:
It looks like such a fake smile, it doesn't reach his eyes
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It doesn't even reach his mouth properly. It really looks fake and evil. There's something about his eyes that have been making me wonder all along. I don't know enough but it just looks like something isn't connecting. Like a learning disability or brain injury but there are plenty of kids with those that don't have these eyes. They don't appear to be innervated by enough nerves. Droopy or something.
 
i8mypaint said:
Because numerous reports of attempted child abductions. I get them almost weekly from the school district.
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I think the OP is wondering why parents can't take their kids trick or treating, no matter now many child abduction alerts have come home from the school district. Not send the kids out unsupervised and unescorted while the parents stay at home enjoying the peace and quiet, but put on the old Reeboks and walk a few blocks with them, so they can enjoy Halloween like kids ought to without compromising safety.
 
otto said:
I remember an interview with a girl that knew Austin and I believe she said that they met through church.

"Danni says she dated Sigg twice, first when he was an 8th grader at Wayne Carl Middle School and again when he was a freshman at Standley Lake High School.

"He was so sweet and so kind. I know that heart is still in him. But sometimes things happen that change people," Danni said.

She says they first met at Warehouse: 180 in Arvada, which is a gathering place for Christian teens. It may help explain the small wooden cross Westminster police call a vital clue.

"We went to church together. It wouldn't surprise me if he wore a cross. He always wore a necklace similar to the one in his mug shot," Danni said.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/34...pect-Austin-Sigg-was-sweet-ex-girlfriend-says
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What kind of necklace was he wearing in his mug shot? If I recall you could not see it in the published pictures. I am curious to know what he was wearing. jmo
 
The photos are from his instagram account. user name: dohastvath.

He is posing with a GF (?). Looks to be a school dance or something where he wore a suit and tried to color co-ordinate with her?

Anyway, I think he is trying to make an effort to be pleasant and look happy in the photos. Maybe that is his pleasant happy face.

Not everyone has a symmetrical face, in fact most peoples' left eye is higher than their right. (IMO and from extensive observation)
 
TreeClimbingGirl said:
Hmm....

I don't think Austin is gay, considering his victimology and the fact that he has had at least one girlfriend (many people here seem to think otherwise, I don't know why :waitasec:) Being gay is also not an "alternative lifestyle", in this day in age, and the viewing of gay *advertiser censored* would not be anything that required treatment. Unless, perhaps, it was some kind of faith based counseling.
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Just to clarify, I think he's assumed to be gay because he appears and sounds very effeminate. I knew several gay men in high school that had girlfriends, but came out of the closet while in college, although they were so effeminate in their mannerisms, that we'd all known they were gay since the third grade. They were even sexually active with their girlfriends, so maybe bisexual would be the proper term.

Not judging gays in general with the "alternative lifestyle" label(which I lump BDSM types into), since I'm old enough to remember when it was considered a "choice" and even a mental disorder. If Siggs considered himself an "Otaku" (Japanese phrase for anime nerd), he might have seriously been into the Japanese schoolgirl, bondage rape-*advertiser censored* cartoons. That stuff would send any normal adult to the phone for counseling.

It depends on his household and how his family felt about such content. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a faith-based, pray-the-gay-away situation, or the maybe there has been a surge in *advertiser censored*-addiction treatments among teens. We'll likely learn more in the future.

Also, rape is more about power than sex, and if he was bullied by teen girls, killing and molesting a very young girl seems more of an act of revenge against those he felt too impotent to confront in school, regardless of his sexual orientation.

Or as Chris Rock once said "Whatever happened to just being CRAZY!"
 
southern_comfort said:
I think the OP is wondering why parents can't take their kids trick or treating, no matter now many child abduction alerts have come home from the school district. Not send the kids out unsupervised and unescorted while the parents stay at home enjoying the peace and quiet, but put on the old Reeboks and walk a few blocks with them, so they can enjoy Halloween like kids ought to without compromising safety.
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I agree, I took my kid out, I think it has people nervous is all I'm saying.
 
Marnie said:
The photos are from his instagram account. user name: dohastvath.

He is posing with a GF (?). Looks to be a school dance or something where he wore a suit and tried to color co-ordinate with her?

Anyway, I think he is trying to make an effort to be pleasant and look happy in the photos. Maybe that is his pleasant happy face.

Not everyone has a symmetrical face, in fact most peoples' left eye is higher than their right. (IMO and from extensive observation)
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I feel sorry for that girl. I wouldn't want to be in photos with a monster that showed up every time someone googled his name.
 
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