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Judge says he expects all the evidence in the case 2 be concluded tomorrow. Trial is set 2 resume at 9:30 am w/ end of re-direct of Dr White
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Dr. #Murray and attorneys are ordered back at 8:30 am tomorrow to discuss exhibits, schedule and whether Dr. #Murray will testify.
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Do you think Dr. #Murray should testify on his behalf? It's his constitutional right to either testify or not. #conradmurraytrial
Dr. White and jurors asked by Judge P to return tomorrow at 9:30.
Sidebar before today's recess.
Camera on CM: Picks up a mini-back pack & kinda feels it with his hands.
Reaches in the side pocket and takes out...
Dang it... camera pans to Dr White still in his chair.
Looked as though sheriff standing next to CM got a little nervous, too, about what CM was taking out of bag.
Just saying. Not insinuating anything.
But I do wonder what's in that bag. Doesn't look like papers to me.
Anyone think rebuttal will go into next week?
I missed a lot of testimony today. Real life called.:banghead:
Did White say that the state tried to hire him?
Just curious. I read that on another site.
IMO
Does anyone know, re what J V-M said, that it means that the defense & the
prosecution told the Judge they'd be through with Dr White by 11:30 am tomorrow?
If so, and there are no more witnesses, do they go straight to closing arguments, the same day?
And how long do you expect the CAs to take?
So is Flanagan through with re-direct?
I heard that Walgren will be calling Dr. Shafer in rebuttal.
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Judge says he expects all the evidence in the case 2 be concluded tomorrow. Trial is set 2 resume at 9:30 am w/ end of re-direct of Dr White
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Dr. #Murray and attorneys are ordered back at 8:30 am tomorrow to discuss exhibits, schedule and whether Dr. #Murray will testify.
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Do you think Dr. #Murray should testify on his behalf? It's his constitutional right to either testify or not. #conradmurraytrial
Didn't one of the paramedics testify that MJ was cool to the touch? If the human body cools at roughly 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit per hour, MJ could have been dead for hour or more.
I'm guessing this is what happened:
CM was clueless. He doesn't use (or possibly even know about) vented tubing sets that allow you to draw directly from a glass bottle of propofol. He possibly doesn't even realize the bottle has a plastic tab that you're supposed to hang it with.
He tries to get MJ to sleep with midazolam and diazepam, but to no avail. MJ is still awake. You can hear the frustration in CM's voice when he relays this in the police interview, that MJ just won't fall asleep.
So CM takes the almost-drained saline bag that he previously used to hydrate MJ earlier in the evening, then crudely spikes the top of a Propofol bottle, putting it into the saline bag and lets it flow freely into the drip. Either accidentally or intentionally, he leaves the IV set wide open, so MJ gets a big dose and finally falls asleep.
CM is relieved and finally takes a break to make some phone calls and relax. MJ dies sometime in this period and it goes unnoticed by CM because of the lack of monitoring and audible alarm. He discovers MJ, panics, makes up a story that he was only gone for two minutes. Finally CM calls Michael Amir, and the rest is history.
Didn't one of the paramedics testify that MJ was cool to the touch? If the human body cools at roughly 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit per hour, MJ could have been dead for hour or more.
I'm guessing this is what happened:
CM was clueless. He doesn't use (or possibly even know about) vented tubing sets that allow you to draw directly from a glass bottle of propofol. He possibly doesn't even realize the bottle has a plastic tab that you're supposed to hang it with.
He tries to get MJ to sleep with midazolam and diazepam, but to no avail. MJ is still awake. You can hear the frustration in CM's voice when he relays this in the police interview, that MJ just won't fall asleep.
So CM takes the almost-drained saline bag that he previously used to hydrate MJ earlier in the evening, then crudely spikes the top of a Propofol bottle, putting it into the saline bag and lets it flow freely into the drip. Either accidentally or intentionally, he leaves the IV set wide open, so MJ gets a big dose and finally falls asleep.
CM is relieved and finally takes a break to make some phone calls and relax. MJ dies sometime in this period and it goes unnoticed by CM because of the lack of monitoring and audible alarm. He discovers MJ, panics, makes up a story that he was only gone for two minutes. Finally CM calls Michael Amir, and the rest is history.
I don't see how they can add a new witness to their witness list at this late date. I understand it is because of these models that she did and White could not testify to but that is of their own making. They just got these models last week and IMO shouldn't have been able to introduce them at that time either. They first should have come into evidence by the person that ran them to establish a foundation for White's testimony about them but that is not what happened. Makes me think that they totally misled Judge Pastor just exactly what White's qualifications were to even speak intelligently about them.
I really wonder how Flanagan even knew about her to begin with. For that reason alone, I hope she testifies. Flanagan seems to fly by the seat of his pants most of the time and comes across to me as though he really is out of his league when it comes to this trial. It would not surprise me one bit if she contacted him out of the blue offering to help with her own models and he took her up on it just taking her at her word that she knew what she was doing. I also can't imagine an expert witness taking models like he did without even knowing this person and their reputation and credentials yet he sits there on the stand and calls her an expert at doing this sort of thing. How could he possibly know that when he just met her last week and by his own admission spent very little time with her, didn't review anything she used to base her model programming on, didn't review any of her input data for accuracy and no matter how many times he referred to her as an expert, just saying it doesn't make it so.
Awww, now, Lady -- You're never too old!! Especially if he's that steamy -- and it IS cold outside. Go for it Tex!!!. :blushing:
I agree and think that is what Walgren was trying to get the jurors
to realize when he asked White when he first met Ms Melon-Ornalas.
I hope they got it.
Quadruple W - Quaduple V???
That judge is so fine & cute & still has his sense of humor (I've no idea how or why). But I might be getting a crush-let on him as well.
Oh, this jury is so fortunate to have JP and the two fine prosecutors to balance out the circus on the DT.
TxLady - What about Judge Pastor? Is he take-home material?? Or is he all mine?
Absurd indeed, Talina, but what else did he have? Diddly.
ZIP code, I mean really, Conrad. Oh, you forgot to worry about latitude & longitude.
I still say he was looking for any delay available to absolve himself about letting MJ die probably 30--45 minutes before he found him. :rubberducky: