OriginalJerseyGirl
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My two wishes:
1) TOD
2) 911 call
1) TOD
2) 911 call
JerseyGirl said:My two wishes:
1) TOD
2) 911 call
JerseyGirl said:Then it sounds as if TOD might not help at all since from what we've heard, Raven was gone approximately 4 hours that night, correct?
JerseyGirl said:So is blood evidence more reliable? Coagulation, etc.?
........very well thought out.........! exactly, if he went OUT the door, and came back IN again, after being in contact with "his 'hurt' wife "......of course there should/would be blood on BOTH sides of that door.......SouthEastSleuth said:I'd like to focus on this theory for a bit.
So, if the back story is indeed fact,
-Raven is out playing soccer.
-Gets home, parks beside the house.
-Go upstairs, kisses Kaiden good night
-Finds Janet in the office, stabbed.
-He tries to "save/revive her" (Presumably "revive" means CPR of some sort??)
Assuming CPR, surely there is blood, at minimum, on Raven's hands at this point.
-He goes downstairs, goes out side door, depositing blood on interior door frame, and interior of storm door.
-Goes to Durango for cell phone (Anxious, obviously, and perhaps forgetting that Janet's phone is in the house?)
-Durango locked.
-Back "inside to get Janets phone or keys to the Durango"
-Presumably then had a cellphone in hand, one or the other, and calls 911
Ok, so:
There is blood on the door frame/storm door. CHECK
There were swabbings taken from the door handle, and interior of Durango. CHECK
When he goes back "inside to get Janets phone or keys to the Durango"... the question is HOW DID HE GET BACK INSIDE WITHOUT LEAVING ANY BLOOD ON THE EXTERIORS OF EITHER DOOR, FRONT or SIDE (regular door or storm door)??
Again, based on info that we HAVE, there were no swabbings taken from the front door, at all. And no swabbings taken from the exteriors of either side door. None.
I won't believe it until I hear it from them.lauriej said:...raven must have a darn air-tight alibi ??? for him NOT to be a POI.....
lauriej said:........very well thought out.........! exactly, if he went OUT the door, and came back IN again, after being in contact with "his 'hurt' wife "......of course there should/would be blood on BOTH sides of that door.......
...as Rooster has told us, LE knows all about raven's attempts at reviving janet etc....and LE obviously knows about the blood.........
...raven must have a darn air-tight alibi ??? for him NOT to be a POI.....
JerseyGirl said:How convenient this all is for the murderer. I'm beginning to worry that this will become an unsolved crime. Someday, Kaiden has a right to know that justice has been served on the person that took his mother from him.
Timex said:Yes, and if Raven is innocent, he also has a right to justice, and not to spend the rest of his life being called a murderer.
Absolutely!Timex said:Yes, and if Raven is innocent, he also has a right to justice, and not to spend the rest of his life being called a murderer.
golfmom said:Exactly, charge him or clear him.
And to be able to somehow try to move forward from this. Here are some links that I found to possibly be helpful for those that are suffering from this type of situation. Friends as well as family may benefit from some of these:Timex said:Yes, and if Raven is innocent, he also has a right to justice, and not to spend the rest of his life being called a murderer.
#10 is out of line! Appropriate grieving? ...Look! I was there. It was appropriate. CONFIRMED by Rooster.Timex said:Lets look at what we assume they know...
1) Raven had affairs
2) Raven had embezzled form his employer..causing both he and Janet to lose thier jobs.
3) There were severe financial problems.
4) Janet had no known enemies
5) The crime was not random
6) No evidence of anyone else being in the house
7) Raven had blood on him when they arrived
8) He had a short temper
9) He admits to liking knives
10) He didnt appear to grieve appropriately at the funeral
11) He said gunshot instead of knife wound, even though he had been near the body
This is FAR more than they have in most cases. Far more than the standards needed to arrest.
Rooster said:#10 is out of line! Appropriate grieving? ...Look! I was there. It was appropriate. CONFIRMED by Rooster.
......i'm not cerain that right now we can definitely say one way or another if he HAS been cleared...HASN'T been....IS a POI or not.....b/c we haven't heard anything new from LE since way back in late april, shortly after the murder...golfmom said:I know that they have not named Raven a POI, but you have to remember that they haven't said he wasn't either. To me the fact that they still haven't *cleared* him is a clear sign they consider him a suspect.
My opinion is that if we haven't heard from LE since very shortly after the murder then Raven is still on the list of possible suspects only because I can't see how they could clear him so quickly. Not with all of the circumstantial evidence out there or unless they've found a "smoking gun" that points to someone else.lauriej said:......i'm not cerain that right now we can definitely say one way or another if he HAS been cleared...HASN'T been....IS a POI or not.....b/c we haven't heard anything new from LE since way back in late april, shortly after the murder...