Forest_Wood
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Yes, and the document indicated he had learned from past mistakes.Sandra Costilla was found in 1993. So he was killing before he made that document.
Yes, and the document indicated he had learned from past mistakes.Sandra Costilla was found in 1993. So he was killing before he made that document.
My understanding is that in NY, DNA cannot be entered into CODIS until after conviction unless there is probable cause to test. I can only imagine what else police will find once RH is convicted and they can enter his DNA into the national database.There's DNA in Tina's case, too.
Since both cases have DNA, they should be easy rule in/outs.
MOO
they realized their DNA evidence was too thin
Maybe he has a conscience and is doing the minimal that ethics requires. He does have a mother and possibly a wife and daughter. MOOWhat happened to the old "my client said he didn't do this" or your "this case is circumstantial" ?
'Heuermann's attorney, Michael Brown, said outside court that he couldn't immediately discuss the new charges.
"Heuermann’s attorney, Michael Brown, entered a not-guilty plea on behalf of his client. Outside of court, Brown said he could not immediately discuss the new charges.
"It’s hard for me to comment without looking at documents and without speaking to my client and looking into the evidence," Brown told reporters. "It wouldn’t be fair for me to comment at this point in time."
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Accused Gilgo killer indicted in murders of 2 more women, including previously unknown victim
The New York City architect arrested last year in connection with a string of cold case bodies found on Long Island’s Gilgo Beach has been charged with murder in the deaths of two more victims, including one whose name hadn’t been publicly associated with the investigation prior to Thursday...www.nbcnewyork.com
And it looks like he changed the ways he did things on purpose to throw off his scent to LE. It was part of his game of the hunt! MOO.One thing I hope we don't begin to lose sight of is the fact that, just because he may have dismembered or mutilated one victim in his home during a certain time period, that doesn't mean that he might not have also killed another victim via strangulation in a hotel or in his vehicle during the same time period. I say that because I was convinced pretty early on that LISK didn't dismember, and I think it made me overlook some UID's because I thought I had this guy figured out. BOY, was I mistaken !
His first wife moved out in September 93 and Sandra was killed in November. His mom had moved out prior to the wife. So I think you're right. If he's not responsible for any of the 1980s victims, Sandra was likely his first.
I read it years ago. It is basically a textbook on profiling. There's a series documentary of the same name that is really good but it has some things thrown in to make it movie like.I have not but I’d probably find it interesting
Well, they knew the hair that was found on Sandra wasn't Bittrolff's. He was excluded from contributing it.Did the information that got LE looking in Manorville come from Bittrolff or his attorney? Pretty sure the sequence of events was Bittrolff files appeal for new trial, LE digs in Manorville, digs in Massapequa Park, files news charges. Since Castilla had originally been assumed to be Bittrolff's victim that they just couldn't prove it (left shoe also missing, as with Rita Tangredi and Colleem McNamee), it would mean that Bittrolff spilled on his co-murdering buddy Rex or that Bittrolff was trying to exonerate himself completely by pinning it on Rex (but how would he know??).
For Michael Brown, there's only one defense left, i.e. that LE fabricated Rex's Murder Diary because they realized their DNA evidence was too thin. On its face, seems a preposterous claim, but a defense attorney needs to sow doubt in just one juror's mind, that's the game.
My understanding is that in NY, DNA cannot be entered into CODIS until after conviction unless there is probable cause to test. I can only imagine what else police will find once RH is convicted and they can enter his DNA into the national database.
Was it the series with Ed Kemper in the first season? If it is, I had started watching it and loved it but for some reason I never finished the seriesI read it years ago. It is basically a textbook on profiling. There's a series documentary of the same name that is really good but it has some things thrown in to make it movie like.
If he insists on keeping it cluttered & horrible, no one will invite anyone into house.I wonder if the family complained to him about the house? Were they ashamed of the state of their home? I would assume so but??? And, was it always this bad inside or did it become gradually worse?
I ruled out Tina early on because she had no known history of being an escort. I had it right that he was a hunter, and hunting was part of his gratification, but I now wonder if he might also seized on random opportunities when they presented themselves. I'm trying to readjust my view of this monster in light of what we now know, so I'm taking Foglia off my rule out list. Good to know there was DNA obtained in her case. I don't think I knew that previously, or if I did, I forgot. Thanks for pointing that out.There's DNA in Tina's case, too.
Since both cases have DNA, they should be easy rule in/outs.
MOO
Surely he didn’t NEED to write that down, he’s just enjoying the planning. Sick M-F.The line "GET SLEEP BEFORE HUNT" chills me to the bone.
Yes. It's like the greatest hits of SK's from before they developed profiling. Only 1 season.Was it the series with Ed Kemper in the first season? If it is, I had started watching it and loved it but for some reason I never finished the series
Two.Yes. It's like the greatest hits of SK's from before they developed profiling. Only 1 season.
You are right. Seems like season 2 sort of sizzled out and wasn't as good. I think it was too expensive to film is why it stopped.Two.
I don't think "evolve" is the word I would use, but clearly his MO changed over the years. Whether that was because it had to change because he was feeling some heat or whether it was because he could simply check something off as "been there/done that"...I dunno. Yesterday dropped a nuclear bomb on me, in that it made me realize that this guy is absolutely beyond my scope of understanding and experience. I'm in the same boat as you...I don't know what to make of any of this right now.It’s interesting ~ it seems as though the earlier victims that we know of where dismembered and discarded farther away from his home, some of their body parts scattered closer to his home and as time went in he got bolder in keeping the bodies closer to home, and his work was a little more “organized”, keeping Melissa, Meghan, Maureen and Amber wrapped and closer together, almost in alignment. Was he “evolving” in a way as he became more experienced? I don’t know what to make of this.
I don't think "evolve" is the word I would use, but clearly his MO changed over the years. Whether that was because it had to change because he was feeling some heat or whether it was because he could simply check something off as "been there/done that"...I dunno. Yesterday dropped a nuclear bomb on me, in that it made me realize that this guy is absolutely beyond my scope of understanding and experience. I'm in the same boat as you...I don't know what to make of any of this right now.
I just thought of something pertaining to his first marriage which could play a key role.His first wife moved out in September 93 and Sandra was killed in November. His mom had moved out prior to the wife. So I think you're right. If he's not responsible for any of the 1980s victims, Sandra was likely his first.