Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #12

[Izzylizzy]

Was there any indication yesterday from D.A. Ray Tierney that they have the evidence that RH did kill these women in his house?

 

[Izzylizzy]

That's how I took it. And it makes me wonder if somewhere he might have kept a bucket list of every type of victim and every act of deviance he conquered.

I shudder to think.

That could enter his internet search for "Asian Twink" and Asian Male #8 and "Sugar Bear" Andre Issac .

 

[Inthedetails]

Was there any indication yesterday from D.A. Ray Tierney that they have the evidence that RH did kill these women in his house?

I don't think it clearly states that, but it is a document used for bail purposes, to request the court deny bail to the defendant. It's not the entire body of evidence that will be presented in court so they didn't have to include all the details they know.

jmo

 

[Soulmagent]

His mom moved out in 1993 and he purchased the home from her in 1994.

The Virginia home?

 

[Inthedetails]

That's how I took it. And it makes me wonder if somewhere he might have kept a bucket list of every type of victim and every act of deviance he conquered.

I shudder to think.

Your comment makes me wonder if he also had a bucket list of different types of locations for the kill - hotel rooms, different cities, in vehicles, at the dump site?

jmo

 

[jessr927]

The Virginia home?

The Massapequa home

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I have a different take. I think at first he was shocked that he was caught, truly in shock that LE found out about him.

Once he realized he was doomed by the evidence, I think he went into gloat mode. He has to know he will never get out of prison and all this attention is a way he can continue to torture people, on a larger scale.

After years of hiding, he has switched gears and will relish any info about his crimes that become public, bit by bit by bit.

jmo

Sometimes we like to predict how perps will actually function in their new homes. Prisons. Especially the ones who we think will get mauled once in prison.

I think RH will actually have "inquiring minds" prison buddies .... giving his a sense of gloating pride ...even in prison!!

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Besides the thousands spent on sex workers and motel rooms.

That said I kept thinking yesterday the praise RH probably got for being such a sweet and caring husband/dad sending his wife and kids off on these wonderful vacations.
And as seen from yesterday's document he even called Asa quite a few times when she was vacationing in Vermont.
He obviously missed her. s/

Called perhaps maybe to find out exactly when someone was returning? (Almost might seem as an element of stalking - which IIRC was alluded to or referenced in this thread yesterday, although there has been so much to read I may be getting confused.) MOO

 

[Soulmagent]

His mom moved out in 1993 and he purchased the home from her in 1994.

Sorry , I was lost for a second due to misreading . His mom brought a house in Virginia but i dunno what year. I get amped whenever I think that Virginia information .

 

[Inthedetails]

Sometimes we like to predict how perps will actually function in their new homes. Prisons. Especially the ones who we think will get mauled once in prison.

I think RH will actually have "inquiring minds" prison buddies .... giving his a sense of gloating pride ...even in prison!!

I can picture him perhaps teaching a GED class, tbh. I don't think he'll be in physical danger.

I hate to think he will have a fulfilling life behind bars, but he might.

jmo

 

[nhmemorymaker]

IIRC:
RH married ER in 9/90
ER moved out around 93'
RH's mother moved out before ER
RH bought house from mother in 94'

Pretty sure he lived with ER in Freeport NY, not Masapequa.
But when did he move back to the family home, exactly?
And there was a live in girlfriend, right? Where did THEY live.

Third Residence Date	1990
Third Address	93 Bedell St 1n
Third Residence	Freeport, New York, USA
Third Postal Code	11520
Fourth Residence Date	1990
Fourth Address	93 Bedell St Apt 1n
Fourth Residence	Freeport, New York, USA
Fourth Postal Code	Join Ancestry® Begin your discovery today by exploring the world's largest online family history resource! www.ancestry.com

 

[NottaYutz]

The line "GET SLEEP BEFORE HUNT" chills me to the bone.

'You could tell he enjoyed it.' Expert gives glimpse into mind of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer

David Sarni, of John Jay College of Criminal Justice, believes that Rex Heuermann thought he would never get caught.

longisland.news12.com

 

[Inthedetails]

The line "GET SLEEP BEFORE HUNT" chills me to the bone.

'You could tell he enjoyed it.' Expert gives glimpse into mind of accused Gilgo Beach serial killer

David Sarni, of John Jay College of Criminal Justice, believes that Rex Heuermann thought he would never get caught.

longisland.news12.com

And it makes me think he had hunted previously and being tired marred the experience for him. He was perfecting his skills.

jmo

 

[Mountain_Kat]

One thing I hope we don't begin to lose sight of is the fact that, just because he may have dismembered or mutilated one victim in his home during a certain time period, that doesn't mean that he might not have also killed another victim via strangulation in a hotel or in his vehicle during the same time period. I say that because I was convinced pretty early on that LISK didn't dismember, and I think it made me overlook some UID's because I thought I had this guy figured out. BOY, was I mistaken !

 

[Izzylizzy]

In case anyone else had forgotten this initial article (there is so much to remember in this case)

This article was published a year ago 23 July 2023.
After the 1st search of TARGET RESIDENCE (as it's now known) I read it and was horrified.
No wonder LE went back for a 2nd inspection for a super close look - finding pinholes etc, taking in clever dogs for the Tech sniffing etc.
Heck knows what they have found this 2nd time around !!

I recall at the time wondering if it was salacious & "invented" & exaggerated !!- seems NOT !

IMO: AE should complete the Divorce - change the adult childrens surnames- never return to TARGET RESIDENCE & do the decent thing & find an exit for the Peacock Deal - IMO monetizing murder is disgusting.

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Gilgo Beach suspect Rex Heuermann may have killed victim in soundproof room; cops using cadaver dogs to search yard

Cops allegedly found a soundproof room in the accused Gilgo Beach killer’s basement and think at least one victim was killed there, it was revealed Sunday — as police used cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar to scour his back yard.

A former co-worker told The Post that suspected serial murderer Rex Heuermann, 59, once took time off from his job as a Manhattan architect to install a concrete-lined vault at his family’s Long Island house.

It’s not clear if that basement compartment is the one cops suspect could have been a killing chamber or whether it is possibly the space previously reported to hold Heuermann’s up to 300 guns.

But “it’s not just a hidden room — it’s a serious vault,” the ex-colleague said. “It had a huge, heavy-duty safe door. He went and poured new concrete walls, massive amount of concrete to encase this room.”

“It was maybe 2 or 3 feet thick,” the former co-worker said.

"IMO: AE should complete the Divorce"

An ex-spouse can be compelled to testify against the person they were married to.
imo: It will be quite telling if Asa doesn't go through with the divorce.

 

[Bobbbbberson]

Called perhaps maybe to find out exactly when someone was returning? (Almost might seem as an element of stalking - which IIRC was alluded to or referenced in this thread yesterday, although there has been so much to read I may be getting confused.) MOO

Agreed... MOO If the family decided to return home early he would have to drastically change is plan (6-7 hour drive back from VT). Whats interesting to me is how packed his schedule was the week before the Smuggs VT vacation and how open it was the week his family was away (per the palm pilot records). Clear evidence of his planning process with one meeting per day maybe to establish an alibi.

Will be interesting as the trial progresses to see what other evidence comes out that may give insight (cell phone data in particular) on RHs movements/activities while his family was on vacation. Do they have him making a call that week in the area of Manorville or in other areas on his HK prep/scouting list? We have only seen the tip of the iceberg so far and only enough evidence to bring charges.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Apparently, his notes described learning that it is better to protect the walls with plastic by using pushpins to secure plastic coverings than to use tape. The wood panels had small holes indicating something had been pinned to the wall.

I get it now. Thanks. He put plastic up on all the walls to prevent blood splatter. Still, I find it hard to believe LE didn't find any blood or DNA anywhere in that basement! Even with plastic up, there's the ceiling, the floor, the walls, the furniture. Was his kill room in the main part of the basement or was there a different room. I haven't found anything specific about this. MOO.

 

[iamshadow21]

Following yesterday's events, I keep thinking about these two unsolved cases (especially the disturbing phone calls to Theresas mother, similar to what we know RH did to GB4 victims.

Tina Foglia

• February of 1982, the remains of nineteen year old, Tina Foglia were discovered on Sagtikos Parkway in Suffolk County. Tina was last seen alive in West Islip - of which is close to Sagtikos Parkway and only mere miles from Oak Beach
• Tina's dismembered remains being found in three separate bags. Body neatly tied in several plastic bags and left on side of road
• Michael Baden, the Suffolk’s chief deputy medical examiner at the time, said Tina died by asphyxia from smothering “Tina died from oxygen deprivation that resulted from the blocking of her nose and mouth” (Newsday (Suffolk Edition) from Melville, New York).
• An unnamed source close to the investigation told the media that “Tina’s body was dismembered with an instrument “more precisely,” as if with a stroke of a butcher’s knife, than possible with instruments like a hatchet or a knife; unlike this source, police and the examiner refused to comment on the details of Tina’s death.” (Mar 04, 1982, page 27 - Newsday (Suffolk Edition) at Newspapers.com - Newspapers.com)
• Tina Foglia was wearing a diamond ring, that was missing and not found on her body
• “The body was cut up ‘more precisely’ than would be possible with an instrument such as an a hatchet or ax”. “Limbs severed “cleanly” as if with a stroke of a butchers knife”

Theresa Fusco

• Disappeared 11/10/84 after her leaving her job at the local roller rink around 9:45 pm. After about a month, her body was found on December 5th, 1984 naked in a wooded area in Lynbrook, New York near LIRR train tracks off an access road about a block away from Hot Skates.
• After an autopsy was conducted, they discovered she died as a result of ligature strangulation (by wire, cord, rope, etc.). DNA samples showed that before she died she was sexually assaulted
• Three men were later convicted but then exonerated in 2003 after semen DNA proved they were not responsible.
• Theresas mother received “prank phone calls'' after her disappearance. I could only find one article and it referenced her testimony when the 3 original suspects sued NY for wrongful conviction. Keep in mind this was 30+ years after TF was killed but here is what she said: “The callers sounded like young people and gave useless tips about clothing that was found, or someone seeing something being thrown into Hempstead Lake”
• AND “I got one sick call: ‘Help me mommy, I’m suffocating”. The article is unclear on when the calls were made, but it appears it was before the body was discovered..
• Mom tells of prank calls in daughter's death

There's DNA in Tina's case, too.

https://pix11.com/news/male-dna-retrieved-in-mystery-of-dismembered-teen-left-in-3-bags-on-long-island-parkway/

Since both cases have DNA, they should be easy rule in/outs.

MOO

 

[Lore Listener]

Yeah, this was Melissa’s sister. I’ll never forget hearing her talk about this on the LISK Podcast. She was only 15 years old when Rex called to taunt her about her sister‘s death.

There are so many unaccounted for missing/murdered.
I've digested yesterdays additional two (2) women.
Now I'm angry !

(April 2005, #RexHeuermann timeshare transaction in Las Vegas.
May 2005, Lindsay Marie Harris, a Las Vegas escort goes missing, weeks later her legs are found in Illinois) one of many.

For added creep and stretching out, RH took at least one of his victim's phones and was ringing her family cruelly taunting them, revealing personal family details only the victim could have given him, on one call saying he'd finally killed her & was watching her rot !
Over eleven years later, tech indicates he was still stalking the victim's families.

RH should have been caught at least 10 YEARS AGO.

How many beefy/ogre 6 foot 6" guys own a CHEVY AVALANCHE, live within SIX MILES of Amber Costello’s House, all spotted by a WITNESS?

One guy: RH

 

[Friday13]

One thing I hope we don't begin to lose sight of is the fact that, just because he may have dismembered or mutilated one victim in his home during a certain time period, that doesn't mean that he might not have also killed another victim via strangulation in a hotel or in his vehicle during the same time period. I say that because I was convinced pretty early on that LISK didn't dismember, and I think it made me overlook some UID's because I thought I had this guy figured out. BOY, was I mistaken !

It’s interesting ~ it seems as though the earlier victims that we know of where dismembered and discarded farther away from his home, some of their body parts scattered closer to his home and as time went in he got bolder in keeping the bodies closer to home, and his work was a little more “organized”, keeping Melissa, Meghan, Maureen and Amber wrapped and closer together, almost in alignment. Was he “evolving” in a way as he became more experienced? I don’t know what to make of this.