Could the RH's Stockholm Syndrome note be in relation to her/AE??
Really worried about the idea of a cabin. I have not heard he had any cabin. But I'm also thinking of the cabin, with his money and interests, it would seem a logical thing to have. I'm also really frightened maybe it wasn't just RH alone, either. And maybe some "buddy" had access, too. Or "buddies." moo
Did Sandra have any tattoos? Jessica did, Peaches did. Karen Vergata had a surgical scar on her left leg.
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Me too. Maybe even a little further.
I'll have to clarify a bit because the post I was responding to was mod snipped. I was specifically referring to this moment in time, and how I could understand why it might be true that she really hadn't read the recent bail hearing documents, as her attorney stated. It's only been a day.
As far as i know, peaches head was never found, maybe she had a tattoo on her neck? Karen vergatas torso was also never found, perhaps there was a tattoo on that. Or maybe thinking back to the Gilgo four he was changing his MO deliberately after four murders just to confuse LE, maybe people thought there was more than one SK on LI because he was the ultimate copycat. Just MOODid Sandra have any tattoos? Jessica did, Peaches did. Karen Vergata had a surgical scar on her left leg.
Asian Male has never been mentioned in association with a tattoo (that I've seen, anyhow). He was also not dismembered. However, I'm not seeing any mention of Valerie Mack having a tattoo, and she went missing back in 2000. She was dismembered. But did they ever recover her full skeleton? Seeing this: "Mack's dismembered remains were located in separate locations over an 11-year span. Her torso was found in Manorville in 2000, not long after she was last seen. In 2011, her head, hands and right foot were found by Gilgo Beach."After 26 years, Fire Island Jane Doe is Identified
Suffolk County Police Department and the FBI Team with Othram to Identify a 1996 Gilgo Beach Murder Victimdnasolves.com
Saying maybe he used to be incredibly careful w/the tattoos/identifying marks and as you said, at some point later, he figured he was safe.Police Reveal Identity of Gilgo Victim Previously Known Only as Jane Doe #6
Suffolk County police have released the name of a previously unidentified victim linked to the notorious Gilgo Beach killings. Nearly a week after announcing they had unearthed the identity of the woman previously referred to as “Jane Doe #6,” cops revealed her to the public as Valerie Mack...
But also of interest would be the idea that Valerie Mack and Jessica Taylor were both tied up like a hunter did it. Source: “Their leg area was bound in a ball,” one former investigator told PIX11 News. “You’d have to be a hunter to do something like that.” https://pix11.com/news/local-news/l...fore-being-tied-to-gilgo-beach-serial-killer/
So RH does things very differently here, too, with the way he left Sandra C. v the way he left Jessica & Valerie. This makes me wonder a lot about what he's covering up with his M/O, per his own notes for "Problems, " "M/O Plastic Bag/Cat Litter." I would think to soak up blood and fluid, too, but he lists "Blood Stains" as a separate problem just above. https://www.scribd.com/document/739...Superseding-Bail-Application-from-June-6-2024
None of the OP victims after Jessica Taylor were dismembered, so Amber, Megan, Melissa, Maureen. I know at least one of these victims DID have tattoos, but none dismembered. So was RH maybe more fearful and cautious in relation to tattoos early on, and as you note, he felt safe and became more comfortable, so he stopped dismembering? As of 2002, he was still noting the tattoos on his "HK" doc. So he was still concerned on them then. Maybe this is why he didn't dismember in 1993, no tattoo? OR something with his vehicle situation may have changed.
Me too. Maybe even a little further.
At the end of the day........... EVERYONE is going to be trying to pick him apart, right?
I have a hard time with this to be honest. He doesn't seem that social to me. I could be wrong though
There is no way of knowing if Asian Doe had any tattoos as they are unidentified and their PMI was five to ten years. They would have been completely skeletonised, as were at least some of the GB4, which means we have no idea if their known tattoos were also removed, just that they were not, to our current public knowledge, dismembered.Did Sandra have any tattoos? Jessica did, Peaches did. Karen Vergata had a surgical scar on her left leg.
Asian Male has never been mentioned in association with a tattoo (that I've seen, anyhow). He was also not dismembered. However, I'm not seeing any mention of Valerie Mack having a tattoo, and she went missing back in 2000. She was dismembered. But did they ever recover her full skeleton? Seeing this: "Mack's dismembered remains were located in separate locations over an 11-year span. Her torso was found in Manorville in 2000, not long after she was last seen. In 2011, her head, hands and right foot were found by Gilgo Beach."After 26 years, Fire Island Jane Doe is Identified
Suffolk County Police Department and the FBI Team with Othram to Identify a 1996 Gilgo Beach Murder Victim
Saying maybe he used to be incredibly careful w/the tattoos/identifying marks and as you said, at some point later, he figured he was safe.Police Reveal Identity of Gilgo Victim Previously Known Only as Jane Doe #6
Suffolk County police have released the name of a previously unidentified victim linked to the notorious Gilgo Beach killings. Nearly a week after announcing they had unearthed the identity of the woman previously referred to as “Jane Doe #6,” cops revealed her to the public as Valerie Mack...
But also of interest would be the idea that Valerie Mack and Jessica Taylor were both tied up like a hunter did it. Source: “Their leg area was bound in a ball,” one former investigator told PIX11 News. “You’d have to be a hunter to do something like that.” https://pix11.com/news/local-news/l...fore-being-tied-to-gilgo-beach-serial-killer/
So RH does things very differently here, too, with the way he left Sandra C. v the way he left Jessica & Valerie. This makes me wonder a lot about what he's covering up with his M/O, per his own notes for "Problems, " "M/O Plastic Bag/Cat Litter." I would think to soak up blood and fluid, too, but he lists "Blood Stains" as a separate problem just above. https://www.scribd.com/document/739...Superseding-Bail-Application-from-June-6-2024
None of the OP victims after Jessica Taylor were dismembered, so Amber, Megan, Melissa, Maureen. I know at least one of these victims DID have tattoos, but none dismembered. So was RH maybe more fearful and cautious in relation to tattoos early on, and as you note, he felt safe and became more comfortable, so he stopped dismembering? As of 2002, he was still noting the tattoos on his "HK" doc. So he was still concerned on them then. Maybe this is why he didn't dismember in 1993, no tattoo? OR something with his vehicle situation may have changed.
Me too. Maybe even a little further.
I totally agree. Which is why I suggested that we should probably start a new thread if we wanted to continue to bounce ideas around. No point in bottle necking this thread with thoughts and ideas based solely on a few grain of information.
There is no way of knowing if Asian Doe had any tattoos as they are unidentified and their PMI was five to ten years. They would have been completely skeletonised, as were at least some of the GB4, which means we have no idea if their known tattoos were also removed, just that they were not, to our current public knowledge, dismembered.
The description on Wikipedia of Valerie and how she was found makes me believe that all of her was found in the end, and that her right foot was removed deliberately to conceal a tattoo and deposited on the beach with her head and hands (and her left probably remained with her torso).
Gilgo Beach serial killings - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
MOO
HIs planning doc seems to be all about his murdering, leading me to think he's relating it to the girls. I could possibly see if the girls had pleaded for their lives, perhaps he confused that with Stockholm Syndrome. IMO.
Exactly! Was thinking that too.
