Considering she sent Madeline to sleep in the same bed as him ,it cannot have been a great surprise to her.Exactly No LE had to hold her back from going berserk on Stern's. No let me at him. Not then, Not Now. It's so infuriating. MOO
Considering she sent Madeline to sleep in the same bed as him ,it cannot have been a great surprise to her.Exactly No LE had to hold her back from going berserk on Stern's. No let me at him. Not then, Not Now. It's so infuriating. MOO
On another thread, a poster suggested that it's possible SS got caught with that CSAM by JS at the time it happened, and made up that story for *her* that it was MS who was fooling around with the phone and did it. I could definitely see that happening. So this may have been just carry-over from that time he was nearly outed. Speculation of course. (Edit: It makes me curious whether JS had a similar story.)its so weird, she wasn't scolded for it, like she did something wrong...I guess it can be that simple victim blaming, it's just so appalling I thought it had to be more than that. Can you imagine growing up in that crazy-making environment?
PS it's probably not even true, it's his attempt again to cover something before it even comes up. ( sterns: "Oh oh he's asking about her sexual activity...what does he know? I better cover that up")
yes, it seems like that's what he was saying, but he says it before he's even asked. It's like he is trying to anticipate their questions. He's so smart with his birthday passcode.On another thread, a poster suggested that it's possible SS got caught with that CSAM by JS at the time it happened, and made up that story for *her* that it was MS who was fooling around with the phone and did it. I could definitely see that happening. So this may have been just carry-over from that time he was nearly outed. Speculation of course. (Edit: It makes me curious whether JS had a similar story.)
On another thread, a poster suggested that it's possible SS got caught with that CSAM by JS at the time it happened, and made up that story for *her* that it was MS who was fooling around with the phone and did it. I could definitely see that happening. So this may have been just carry-over from that time he was nearly outed. Speculation of course. (Edit: It makes me curious whether JS had a similar story.)
I believe so but only for CSAM not murder.What SS already arrested by the time JS was shown the CSAM from SS's phone or no?
Okay, thank you, I thought she was probably shown the photos after he had already been booked into jail but I just wanted to be sure/confirm. ThanksI believe so but only for CSAM not murder.
Jenn probably saw a film of Maddy naked on SS's phone and the monster blamed it on Maddy saying, "she filmed it herself".its so weird, she wasn't scolded for it, like she did something wrong...I guess it can be that simple victim blaming, it's just so appalling I thought it had to be more than that. Can you imagine growing up in that crazy-making environment?
PS it's probably not even true, it's his attempt again to cover something before it even comes up. ( sterns: "Oh oh he's asking about her sexual activity...what does he know? I better cover that up")
Well, also, the pic w/the tripod visible was a pic used for marketing or rental purposes, right? To show the place to potential renters? So I think the only reason the tripod showed up in that pic was because it was being used in that photo session. They obviously took that pic holding the camera in hand, but may have taken other pics w/the camera on the tripod for different angle or whatever. I have actually seen tripods in those kinds of pics when looking thru real estate listings of home pictures.I don't think the tripod was MS filming herself for YouTube or other social.
she wasn't supposed to have the secret YouTube, at least my understanding of it. So she probably took short videos of herself and/or her friends did when they were together. I don't see a tripod as something the average 12 year-old would have, especially not one who doesn't even have her own room. Kids film really short snippets of content, usually. At least mine do, and their other kids I have been around during their activities in recent years. Some of the stuff I was happily shown by the younger ones was really silly. Like making their cat dance for 10 seconds, or talking about why the iced coffee at ___ company was THE BEST. Or picking a flower, because they thought it was artistic. Not stuff you really need a tripod set up to film lol.
I would see it more likely MS filmed "shorts", or similar to things you might see on TikTok.
Pervert was almost CERTAINLY filming her in the living room. Probably filming the whole damn house, and claiming he was a "filmmaker" or some damn BS.
I think Natasha is a name brand of a wallet and those were business cards, not credit cards.Older girl=Natasha, perhaps?
"Natasha" of the wallet with all kinds of credit cards in different names.....
Yes, at age 13 her peers would definitely not be on Facebook, but perhaps use insta (we know Zuckerberg refused to release info on her insta), but most likely to be on TT or at the very least, watch "shorts" on it .. we've seen her talk/laugh for a few moments on that really brief TT taken at her birthday (she is in the blue dress and they're playing with some toy that plays music.)- I didn't see mention of a subpoena for a TT account though.would see it more likely MS filmed "shorts", or similar to things you might see on TikTok
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But as someone else said, tripods are certainly movable objects, and I agree, could have been used elsewhere at other times for pics like what was found on his phone.
It was Natalia, not Natasha.I think Natasha is a name brand of a wallet and those were business cards, not credit cards.
The biggest signs for me that she knew Ms was dead:She also hasn't cleared,or named as a victim. The investigation is on going. She lied to LE. I can think of one reason for doing that. MOO
I think she denied recognizing him or her in the images knowing it would be akin to admitting she knew the abuse was going on and did nothing to intervene and protect her child. Nevermind she SENT her child to be abused.Can't tell me JS didn't know,or recognize anything when shown what went down. I could spit nails it makes me so angry. Poor Madeline. MOO
She did “something” with a phone or a camera… but wasn’t scolded for it?? What exactly happened? Was this his way of testing mom’s reaction (which was apparently none) to seeing what would happen if he was caught having her do things on cam???heres another time when he does this diversion thing, page 342/896 when the cop asks SS if he knows if maddi has ever been sexually active he says ' well there was this one time... but she wasn't scolded for it"
its some weird reverse psychology thing, that tries to divert the focus. I don't think its gaslighting, maybe someone with a psych background in here can explain it?
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probably nothing happened its made up. (IMO) and even if something private like that did happen the fact that he would know about it is an issue, How would he know about it ? how intrusive.She did “something” with a phone or a camera… but wasn’t scolded for it?? What exactly happened? Was this his way of testing mom’s reaction (which was apparently none) to seeing what would happen if he was caught having her do things on cam???
If she did and she let that slide too, I won’t be surprised. JS didn’t give a single damn about that kid or what he did to her. Not one.Jenn probably saw a film of Maddy naked on SS's phone and the monster blamed it on Maddy saying, "she filmed it herself".
very young..... IMO, Madeline was imitating what HE was doing to her. too young to know 'this is a secret' ....keeping a secret comes later with bribes for material things as shown in one of his videos LE obtained.heres another time when he does this diversion thing, page 342/896 when the cop asks SS if he knows if maddi has ever been sexually active he says ' well there was this one time... but she wasn't scolded for it"
its some weird reverse psychology thing, that tries to divert the focus. I don't think its gaslighting, maybe someone with a psych background in here can explain it?
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