yeah, where's KR's safe space huhKaren's text messages and voicemails that "weren't meant to be public" either, but Lally has no problem using them as evidence.
yeah, where's KR's safe space huhKaren's text messages and voicemails that "weren't meant to be public" either, but Lally has no problem using them as evidence.
judging from some in court observations of body language and demeanor of the dismissed juror I am guessing they will speak after the verdict.Yes. Very concerned about fairness of that 11th-hour dismissal and hope we learn the truth about "why". moo
no such thing when a chief investigator is looking at your phone to see if there are any nudes!yeah, where's KR's safe space huh
what the..., no transcript of testimony? What is that. never seen that in another trial. can't be right surely?@BienickWCVB
The judge has not spoken individually with the jurors during the trial but she did question them individually during jury selection.
The judge encourages jury not to take a straw poll at the start of deliberations but rather to start by talking about the evidence.
The jury will not be provided with a transcript of the testimony. They will need to rely on their memories of what witnesses said.
The judge says the foreperson must be certain of the unanimity of a verdict before announcing it the judge. He nods affirmatively.
The judge finishes her instructions and calls the attorneys to the bench for a sidebar.
Two full months of testimony but no transcript that’s insanitywhat the..., no transcript of testimony? What is that. never seen that in another trial. can't be right surely?
Transcripts are never available for the jury. They take some time to produce.what the..., no transcript of testimony? What is that. never seen that in another trial. can't be right surely?
Right they must be able to ask for a read back thank G. Otherwise they could end up spending hours arguing re who took notes correctly. That's ok thenI assume they can ask for a read back? I missed instructions. Was that covered about questions.
I guess the ones that didn’t take notes are gonna regret that!Transcripts are never available for the jury. They take some time to produce.
yeah just realised that they can ask for read backs if they need to. that's where I was getting confusedTranscripts are never available for the jury. They take some time to produce.
They can ask, but Judges generally don't allow a read-back of witness testimony. When a judge is asked for one, judge instructs jury to rely on their memory and notes. mooI assume they can ask for a read back? I missed instructions. Was that covered about questions.
What a thing to say to try to explain Proctor. Imo Lally cannot read the room and as such he comes across as an apologist of Proctor's abhorrent misogyny. He should have dispensed with the qualification. jmoThe irony of using the term "safe space" when talking about disgustingly abusive and misogynistic behaviour. Ok Lally.
He is a Proctor fan. I knew he must of hated having to be the prosecutor in this as he knows them all in a positive way in his way of life.What a thing to say to try to explain Proctor. Imo Lally cannot read the room and as such he comes across as an apologist of Proctor's abhorrent misogyny. He should have dispensed with the qualification. jmo
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Closer….. I still think there are too many questions as to what happened that night not to have reasonable doubt. Also, STOP THE DRINKING AND DRIVING! So much of that in this case.
The jury began deliberating around 1:30 pm ET in #KarenRead. They will not deliberate past 4:30 pm ET each day.
Really? it depends on judge? There were some requests for read back in Murdaugh trial of certain sections of testimony and the judge allowed, I would assume in the interests of allowing the jury to resolve conflicts of memory and reach their verdict based on the correct facts. I don't like that idea at all in this trial especially after the massive amount of testimony. It just sounds wrong and not in the interests of reaching a a fair verdict at all if a judge were to deny a request or make jury feel uncomfortble about needing a clarification. mooThey can ask, but Judges generally don't allow a read-back of witness testimony. When a judge is asked for one, judge instructs jury to rely on their memory and notes. moo
I got the sense he would of given HIS all for the right thing in this type of a situation. He would not lie nor be a simp to fit in or toe the blue line that was rotten here. Just my sense. The girlfriend situation is very personal to people aside from what I am mentioning, what works for them or does not. We will never know in the end for sure. You know how people surprise you with their own personal hearts. Yes, this was a terrible place for KR to be at and a while before. SOUNDS like the go away come here though and neither officially ended it as he was affectionate when she walked in the first bar, then not long after, the anxiety and massively betrayed person sounding calls and texts to him. So you never know. NO, not a good place for her and tons have been in that situation.After all the testimony and both sides closing arguments this is what I know for 100% certainty: John O’Keefe deserved better. He deserved a better girlfriend. He deserved better friends. He served a better lead investigator. He deserved a better investigation. He deserved a better trial regarding his death.
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