Found Deceased Canada - Ying (Anita) Mui, 56, Markham Ontario, 9 Aug 2024

[AddyFinch]

So, how did Anita get to house on Vandorf s/r? -She met someone and they drove? She was forcibly taken? Or she was never there (evidence will rule this out)
Where did they kill her? -At car, at house, or at site of where her body was found?( Evidence will rule this out)
Was she held at house before being killed? -Neighbours didn't see or hear anything, or didn't want to get involved? ( Evidence will might rule this out)
If she was killed at spot she was found, that's pretty remote, and I don't think there is anything but one or two houses there. Would they have heard?
Property owner called OPP?? If I remember correctly it's nothing but road ,rock and trees. It must have been on someone's land, and they found in daylight. Maybe walking the dog or leaving for work? Did YRP attend the scene?? Or did OPP preserve the scene and search for evidence?
Of course the big.... why? I'll go thru the list...... sex trafficking, drugs, money, revenge. Isn't there something about burning the body in crime stories? Is it personal, or just attempting to destroy evidence. Why not just throw her body out of the car after they have killed her. In the Tim Bosma case they incinerated them, but that was to completely destroy body. Torching it on road won't do that, maybe to get rid of surface DNA???

 

[slowpoke]

What does the Anita Mui crime have to do with the tow truck wars? Both have murder and arson. And greed. Could these young offenders be involved in both scenarios?

What is meant by “tow truck wars”?
I don’t understand the reference. Is that something going on in Canada?
(or maybe I’m just ignorant? I’m in the US.)

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

WHY would a teenager possess a firearm? Because he is a hardened criminal. Gang members ARE hardened criminals, sadly. Here are my possibilities for this crime:
drug trafficking
sex trafficking
hired to do so

Now.......motive here? I'm at a loss.

Note: I live in Muskoka south of Parry Sound. We moved here after living in Toronto for many years. And @AddyFinch you are right. There's nothing but granite, roads and trees up here.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

What is meant by “tow truck wars”?
I don’t understand the reference. Is that something going on in Canada?
(or maybe I’m just ignorant? I’m in the US.)

Yes, there are killings and arson among some tow truck drivers just north of Toronto. It's getting pretty bad. Please see this link

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/teens-tow-trucks-first-degree-murder-1.7300507

 

[ohemgee.kay925]

My deepest condolences to all who loved Anita.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

More good info here

Body of missing Markham realtor found, 3 youths facing weapon, fraud charges

Yuk-Ying (Anita) Mui, 56, was last seen leaving her home near Baycliffe Road and Warden Avenue, according to her colleague.

www.parrysound.com

 

[AddyFinch]

WHY would a teenager possess a firearm? Because he is a hardened criminal. Gang members ARE hardened criminals, sadly. Here are my possibilities for this crime:
drug trafficking
sex trafficking
hired to do so

Now.......motive here? I'm at a loss.

Note: I live in Muskoka south of Parry Sound. We moved here after living in Toronto for many years. And @AddyFinch you are right. There's nothing but granite, roads and trees up here.

I'm leaning to involvement with CCP Missing Toronto realtor featured prominently in Beijing's United Front networks, records and sources indicate
Others I know are leaning to a new inexperienced serial killer.
To me it's a contract killing in ALL of them,(sloppy ones at that) why? well if CCP, then it's definitely r/t China politics and agenda Anita was pushing hence needing to silence her. If it's serial, then that's a deranged mind.
All had good jobs. Obviously all were educated and not lacking in finances. Did they get those finances thru criminal activity? Dan was accused of this. Why did Anita go to court? and the Doctor??? nothing that we know.
Will have to cross over to Dr Zhang, as I believe this is all related.

 

[AddyFinch]

Real Estate Board issues statement TRREB Statement on Death of Markham REALTOR® Anita Mui

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I’m also having a gut feeling that all three women and the crimes are related somehow but I have no idea how. The term TARGETED stands out here.

 

[loveisthemovement]

WHY would a teenager possess a firearm? Because he is a hardened criminal. Gang members ARE hardened criminals, sadly. Here are my possibilities for this crime:
drug trafficking
sex trafficking
hired to do so

Now.......motive here? I'm at a loss.

Note: I live in Muskoka south of Parry Sound. We moved here after living in Toronto for many years. And @AddyFinch you are right. There's nothing but granite, roads and trees up here.

Don't forget lakes! So many lakes. @No Stone Unturned I live just outside of Parry Sound (Rosseau)

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Don't forget lakes! So many lakes. @No Stone Unturned I live just outside of Parry Sound (Rosseau)

That's a great point. Now I wonder why the body was burned instead of being tossed into one of our many lakes.

 

[AddyFinch]

I too am trying to read into the post mortem doings to the bodies. Why do what they did?
Was this personal? If just face was burned maybe that is a message?

What I do think is, there was quite a bit of on -off rain over past few weeks with wind.It was really hot that week and one day was really wet. Can't remember which day. Did the elements put out Anita's fire, did it ruin the planned final disposition? Or were they stupid/naive/inexperianced killers (such as teens would be)

Were they trying to remove DNA? Does fire burn off DNA from the skin? Was she raped? Did she bite them or scratch?

The location doesn't hit with a punch. It was remote, right off easy access of the 400. Why didn't they drag her into the bush along there? Or did they? I think the location was a let's get rid of it quick, I'm sick of this and get back home. They had already driven 2hrs or more. Or did they? Were they from the beautiful north and knew area? If it was the teens, then no they didn't know the area.

What vehicle rental is missing a white Mercedes Sprinter van? Do they have a camera? Does their lot have cameras. Was it the same rental place as Dr Zhangs van? Do these vehicles have tracking systems onboard?
ps. Rosseau..... Heaven!!!

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Why killers burn the bodies

Burning Evidence

A pile of burned bones can still tell a story of murder.

www.officer.com

 

[loveisthemovement]

I too am trying to read into the post mortem doings to the bodies. Why do what they did?
Was this personal? If just face was burned maybe that is a message?

What I do think is, there was quite a bit of on -off rain over past few weeks with wind.It was really hot that week and one day was really wet. Can't remember which day. Did the elements put out Anita's fire, did it ruin the planned final disposition? Or were they stupid/naive/inexperianced killers (such as teens would be)

Were they trying to remove DNA? Does fire burn off DNA from the skin? Was she raped? Did she bite them or scratch?

The location doesn't hit with a punch. It was remote, right off easy access of the 400. Why didn't they drag her into the bush along there? Or did they? I think the location was a let's get rid of it quick, I'm sick of this and get back home. They had already driven 2hrs or more. Or did they? Were they from the beautiful north and knew area? If it was the teens, then no they didn't know the area.

What vehicle rental is missing a white Mercedes Sprinter van? Do they have a camera? Does their lot have cameras. Was it the same rental place as Dr Zhangs van? Do these vehicles have tracking systems onboard?
ps. Rosseau..... Heaven!!!

I love all of your questions @AddyFinch !!

Re: the location - this isn't the first time in recent years that someone was found in that area. I can't recall exactly but I am almost positive at least one other person was found deceased in that same area. You are correct - it's right off the highway, just past the busy areas of Parry Sound when it starts to feel more remote again as you head north.

 

[AddyFinch]

Maybe whoever ordered the murder, told them to drive as far as they could, because the last one was found too fast??
The city is too built up and the 400 is too busy. Barrie is equally busy, so they just keep going until it looks and feels remote enough. There are plenty of isolated areas close to the city, but you have to know exactly where those are. (ie locals).Certainly activity during night hours would attract attention vs the day, but if there are few houses on that stretch then maybe it is very quiet. Car lights and a fire would attract attention tho, unless they drove in off the highway? I'll google earth it....

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Ms. Maui’s credit cards were used in Toronto so why dispose of the body in Parry Sound? Or, were these teens told to just drive north on Highway 400 until you get far enough away from TO? And how did they burn the body? Was she already deceased before the burning?

Regarding @AddyFinch, I also appreciate the questions AND the login name. The character Atticus Finch is a beloved favourite of mine.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Maybe whoever ordered the murder, told them to drive as far as they could, because the last one was found too fast??
The city is too built up and the 400 is too busy. Barrie is equally busy, so they just keep going until it looks and feels remote enough. There are plenty of isolated areas close to the city, but you have to know exactly where those are. (ie locals).Certainly activity during night hours would attract attention vs the day, but if there are few houses on that stretch then maybe it is very quiet. Car lights and a fire would attract attention tho, unless they drove in off the highway? I'll google earth it....

I just posted basically the same thing. Great minds…..

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Found on PRIVATE PROPERTY and two are out on bail already

Markham realtor was 'targeted' and 'murdered,' transferred north in cargo van

The charred remains of a woman found north of Parry Sound have been identified as that a missing Markham real estate agent.

torontosun.com

LOCATION

McDougall Township

Then on Aug. 12, officers reported that burned human remains had been found in the area of Avro Arrow Road and Highway 400 in McDougall Township, about 230 kilometres north of Toronto. The Office of the Chief Coroner positively identified the deceased as Mui on Wednesday, police said.

LOCATION WITH MAP

Police investigating after human remains found in Parry Sound area

Ontario Provincial Police is investigating after human remains were found on a property Monday morning off Highway 400 north of Parry Sound.

northernontario.ctvnews.ca

 

[AddyFinch]

I goggled it. It's a short road, flat, with a few pull offs or drive ways to no where. A couple of possible houses or businesses? It does look remote to the unfamiliar. There is one choice pull off with a chain across , where you could easily take body out and walk onto property to leave, probably rather quickly. If elements didn't stop the burn, then hasty inexperienced did. They probably wanted to get out of there asap, so didn't hang around to ensure the burning took place. Gee how long would that take place? Yikes!
I'm thinking LE wouldn't have allowed them bail if they thought they really killed her. But maybe they wanted to circumvent all the youthful offender rules and reg and just get them outta there?? Maybe following them?

 

[AddyFinch]

LOCATION WITH MAP

Police investigating after human remains found in Parry Sound area

Ontario Provincial Police is investigating after human remains were found on a property Monday morning off Highway 400 north of Parry Sound.

northernontario.ctvnews.ca

Bet that business is relieved!!