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  1. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #5

    But these witnesses are not the "most people who don't really notice others" thank goodness, they are the people who did notice things, who were able to remember some details, and who were concerned. They did not have a "captive audience" when they troubled themselves to contact the police...
  2. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #5

    Thank you for the timeline RSF. So, if Victoria was born at the car fire on 5 Jan. she lived for 4 days if she died on 9 Jan. as claimed by CM. Her distressed crying on the morning of 6 Jan. concerned the witness Mr. Gosling sufficiently for him to try to help the couple for the sake of the...
  3. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    I imagine that the need to get away from the burning car and disappear was their priority as the arrival of the fire service/police etc would have caught them there and then. Leaving a passport and phones must have ruined their plans. It's interesting that even as fugitives, they did not...
  4. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    Not necessarily, that does not seem to be their style, they appear to have different priorities.
  5. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    Perhaps because that's what he saw? and because it would have been more appropriate for their to be a hat on the baby's head given the circumstances?
  6. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    I agree, not that they left in a hurry necessarily, but that this was the way they naturally lived, clean or dirty, negligent or responsible, may not have entered into it. I think they treated their baby in the same way they treated the cottage.
  7. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    Some further thoughts about drugs. From a look around the internet I've noted the following: For Meth, the ingredients can be obtained here and there e.g. ammonia (urine) acetone (nail polish) anti-freeze, iodine, Kitty litter, over the counter medications, camping fuel, plastic bottles etc...
  8. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    Cat litter is very absorbent. Less suspicion in shops than either of them buying nappies whilst 'on the run?' Attempts to clean up any sort of spills or liquid accidents.
  9. porkypies

    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #4

    I don't accept the fact that Victoria "didn't require medical assistance" (whose words are these)? means that a crime/manslaughter was not committed. MG and John Femi-Ola KC seem to have overlooked the necessity for food and warmth - amongst other needs of a new-born baby?
  10. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    In that latest photo of Sara with the black hijab, the left side of it is covering more of her face than the right side - looks to me as though it would even obscure her view, which seems odd for a schoolchild. Her left eye is partially closed compared to her right eye, and other photo's I've...
  11. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    But IIRC, she was only recently taken out of school? So which, and how many of these injuries was she suffering whilst attending school? And which injuries would have incapacitated her-meaning absence from school for a while?
  12. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    But the police did say straight away that it was murder.
  13. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    I imagine the council house move to a 3 bedroom semi (from a flat)? was a benefit of having an extra child (the new baby) in the family, just as I imagine that the father would have wanted custody of his 2 children with Olga in order to increase his rights to such housing/benefits.
  14. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    The language of the note quoted here seems more grown-up than 13 year-old to me. For a note(s) to be left with the body - it must surely have been put there at the very last minute, and by the last person to leave the house? Would anyone chance naming the murderer in one note, and then going...
  15. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    I have thought that the police work on their previous home could be looking for items there which would match with old injuries to Sara, e.g. door handles, sharp corners or edges of worktops etc?
  16. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    But Sara was being looked after by family when she was murdered. How does anyone believe that the fugitives care one jot for any children? Taking them to Pakistan ensured they could not tell what happened to Sara, and they would have been left with grandad because they were an impediment to the...
  17. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    Hopefully, where he is going after he's been arrested? he won't want his cash and jewellery so the police have hidden it as it's more secure with them. I think he's lucky that the police didn't break his neck-never mind his cameras and locks!
  18. porkypies

    UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #2

    Re- this para. 'Urfan and Beinash ran from the UK because a British lawyer there made them terrified, saying they would have a harsh punishment in the UK and they would lose custody of their children,’ said Mr Taufique. ‘They would be mistreated for being Muslims and a big scandal will be made...

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