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Coming out of lurkdom to say that a neighbour doesn't need to have an issue to do something completely unexpected. Some of you would remember Thomas Hemming and the Adamsons? No motive whatsoever. Just a completely random act.

What an animal.

I'm so sorry for you all, ediethedog. I hope your son is ok. Unfortunately I know from personal experience how much this type of event hits you when it's close to home. I'm still feeling the effects over a year later. I was a little suspicious of the boyfriend at first, but I'm very happy...

Think he's still got the jacket in the second photo, scrunched up behind the bag. I can't see this as a random thing, myself. Broad daylight, at a time where many people would be using the park for exercising? And I'm not making any accusations, but does it seem odd to anyone else that...

He looks young. Possibly a similar age?

I know what you mean. I wish they'd gone further into why Thomas Hemming was fascinated by the idea of killing someone last year. What games had he been playing? The idea has to come from somewhere.

Thoughts full of memories today. RIP Cheryl and Robert. Hope there is healing going on on your side Ozman.

It must be something like that, because it was definitely the two colleagues who found them. Poor wording by the judge though. I'm surprised if the police let him see the scene. Pretty much everyone would have been a suspect to start with, surely, so they would have kept everyone away...

I googled maximum sentences in Victoria, and life is the maximum sentence for murder. I really want to understand how it wasn't that. Pre-mediated, unprovoked, brutal, and no remorse. Even his own lawyer said there had been no remorse.

Pretty sure it wasn't the son. It was two of her work colleagues from the school. That was reported earlier (and I'm very confident it's true). Bit strange to be changing the story at this point - and even stranger if the judge is wrong? Hope there's some analysis of the sentence. I'm at a...

So what do you need to do to get a life sentence in Melbourne? Any Victorian lawyers out there? 59 is plenty young enough to re-offend. Also - did the judge say that Michael was the one to find them, as I've read in a few articles? That is definitely not the case to my knowledge. A bit of...

I wish I could un-know some of this. Dear dear Cheryl. She deserved to grow old, adore grandchildren, celebrate holidays and generally keep lighting up the lives of everyone around her. No-one deserved this less. I wish I could stop picturing her in pyjamas trying to save Robert. And that...

Thanks Marlywings, but what does that actually mean? What are they trying to achieve at that kind of hearing?

Thanks Ozman. It's all gone a bit quiet from our side. Do you know if the media will have access? Hoping not ...

Perhaps just not when emotions are running high. :)

I have to come out of lurking mode before this becomes a mob burning …. I believe that MRSA was being a little tongue-in-cheek (which, if you look at his/her previous posts, is not unusual). His/her point was that you can't actually have a verdict of 'murder'. A verdict can only be...

I was wondering the same thing. Got to be one of us!

Hi all. I've been overseas, and couldn't find anything online about the directions hearing on 27th. Does anyone know what happened?

Does anyone know if Allison was wearing shoes when they found her? I think that would be quite important - no shoes if she was in bed, runners if she was out walking, slippers if she was at home?