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:sick: Ohhh that just put me off my mid morning tea & biscuit :eek:

Sorry to be a bit graphic here but what scum wouldn't close the door in the toilet let alone if going in for doing "big business" if you get my drift?! His story is just that and a pile of 'big business' too

Thank you for the updates JJ :cheers:

Morning all, I noticed the reference to Prof Derman - wasn't he the witness to shot back at Nel WTTE "you don't have to be a genius" prompting the response from Nel "but you do need to be a psychologist" :laughing:

Thank you for all the updates, I've been reading but I'm at work with tons of VAT returns to complete so can't join in!

Thank you for all the updates, much appreciated :cheers:

I tried to edit my above post but can't Prime is way ahead of me !!

According to Twitter he's interrupted because he's not happy with Desai's manner towards Olckers. I'll try to copy some tweets. Edit You're way ahead of me!!

This judge is really on the ball, wish he'd been on the OP trail

Thank you everyone for the updates on the previous threads, I think I'm giving up on this one now - for the time being at least :tyou:

He wants to have his cake and eat it - he's an odious creature :jail: Morning all,

As I've mentioned before I have no legal knowledge but this seems to me like HvB wants to have the best of both sides - will testify if the defence witness do well but won't if they don't? :fence: Thanks for the updates :tyou:

And me!

Thank you so much for the updates both, :cheers:

Agree!

Surely we can hear the sounds of prison doors closing beind HvB? :jail: Thanks again for the updates - they don't make easy reading, how one human could do that to another is beyond my comprehension :sick:

Thank you JJ much appreciated :tyou:

Thank you for updated JJ, this is making me feel a bit sqeamish :eek:

Lol no, :laugh: I had my mother visiting for a couple of weeks so we were out and about most days,

I've been away for a couple of weeks but it seems I've not missed much in terms of court time! Thank you for your thoughts and insights - very interesting to read.