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Bolded by me. Irishdetective, Welcome to Abby and Libby's thread. Thank you for your insight. I am one of the posters who believe that ever since the 2019 PC where The Shack was mentioned that LE has the killer in their sights. I also think every word that LE says to the public and/or press...

In my profession, chaos, such as that visited upon Abby and Libby, will overcome probability, odds, and statistics every time.

Can anyone tell me how the question and answer with the newspaper came about? Was it initiated by law enforcement or by the newspaper?

Yes indeed very early on. Something within the timeframe of the earliest days of the investigation and July of that year when the first sketch was released. I can see the first sketch as a (to my untrained eyes) close match to what I see in the still picture. I just do not see any resemblance...

I remember the issue being discussed when the info was first put out by LE. Some posters thought the wording meant the vehicle was abandoned and others thought it was the building. I do know that the building was no longer in use. It had been a child protective services building I think.

I think it was the building that was abandoned, no longer in use. It has subsequently been torn down.

I have always believed LE was heading in the right direction at the beginning. I remember participating in a thread where this idea was discussed. I do believe that something seriously derailed the early efforts. I think they came full circle back to the beginning because an alibi became...

I did not say that Abby's mother lied about a cell phone. I acknowledged that the mother said Abby did not have a phone. Abby could have had access to the use of a cell phone is all I meant.

I taught middle school for 32 years. I do realize that Abby's mother said Abby did not have a cell phone. Having been in the company of young teenage girls for so many years, I just find it hard to believe that a girl in this time would not have access to the use of a cell phone. When we give...

It looks to me that Abby's hand is pressing down on something in the pocket that has a hard straight edge like a cell phone does. I can see this but cannot see things pointed out in BG's picture.

The rapidity of the time frame of these murders just screams local perp to me. Someone with extensive knowledge of the trail system, and potential entrances and exits to the area.

I tried to reply a few minutes ago but somehow lost it. It may still show up. LE with jurisdiction over where the crime occurred is the lead investigators. In this case it is the county level LE. Ofcourse, resources at the county level are slim. They called in ISP. Local LE would have to...

Another reason killers attend memorials and funerals of their victims is to check out LE activity and possible focus on someone.

If the hard drive from your "dead" computer is still good, you can access your files on it.

My thinking is the following are the only things we know about the prelude to the crime, the crime itself, and its aftermath after 3 and a half years later. 1) Abby and Libby asked to go to the trails. Permission was granted if they could get a ride home. 2)Kelsi dropped the girls off at the...

I am trying to reply to your last paragraph but not having a lot of success with use of replying. I agree with you. I would think that LE and crime scene investigators, autopsy personnel, etc have their DNA on file for the simple reason of process of elimination of unknown DNA at any crime...

Please ignore this post as I made multiple errors when trying to post.

Can I ask some questions about crime scene investigation procedures for a crime of the magnitude of the murders of Abby and Libby. The following are assumptions I am making because I have no formal knowledge of this. These things just seem common sense to me. Crime scene is discovered. The...

Sheriff Grady Judd is one dedicated law enforcement officer. He will stay on this until arrests are made. Check him out on Youtube. He had quite the message for would be looters during the recent protests.

Apologize. I thought you meant 15 hours. Where I live in a rural area, local to us would mean anything within an hours drive for us due to extended family and friendship groups. A lot of small towns and smaller communities.