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Yes I remember them questioning John about the cigar box. I think it was the 1998 police interview. I think I found it....I'll try and post a link here... http://www.acandyrose.com/s-evidence-cigar-box.htm

Boy was I surprised last night to see they had identified who this was. It had been awhile since I checked on this thread, so I found approximately where I had left off and started to read the posts. Eventually I skipped ahead because I was so excited to see what her original name was. I'm happy...

Yeah this one is definitely worth reading again. I had forgotten a lot of this stuff. The 911 call was strange. I always wished some of the people that were kids back then and at the party would be talked too now as adults. A huge house like that it wouldn't surprise me if the kids just went off...

You're right. I didn't notice that before. The part closer to the bottom of her hand looks like it was carved into the skin more than drawn. When I tried cleaning up the photo and enhancing it in Photoshop I can almost see where her skin had inflammation.....like when you scratch yourself if...

I always thought that most likely the writer of the note was Patsy. Although if I'm being totally honest there were times early on I thought Burke could have written it, although I never voiced that opinion for fear of being ridiculed. The idea seemed too out there. I remember early in the case...

I think Burke killed her with Patsy and John covering it up. As far as what the parents did in staging I don't totally agree with the theory the CBS show gave. I would have Burke doing more than what their theory had him do. In my mind that's why Patsy and John ultimately decided to try and...

Yeah that's a good point. It could have been the train also. No, I don't think we did see any bank or credit card records. At least I don't recall seeing anything like that.

That is odd when you think about it. Would make sense that if that toy was somehow part of what happened that night they would have thrown it out or hidden it. Like if the toy was broken as part of an argument or something. I can't remember if any of the crime scene photos showed that toy or if...

I wondered about that also. If maybe that was what they first thought about doing, then eventually decided to call all their friends over to contaminate the scene and have the police or someone else searching the house find her. There were so many weird things going on. At times it sort of...

After watching the Dr. Phil interview with Burke I went back and reread the police interview transcripts for Pasty and John. I was always of the opinion that a lot of what happened was done by a jealous, deeply disturbed child. It was even more obvious after being able to see Burke on Dr. Phil...

This is going to backfire on him. I suppose a certain number of his viewers will default to his view because of....the whole famous guy on tv. He's smarter than us thing, but.....I don't even know what to say......To me this is like when his parents sued everyone under the sun. It just made them...

Yes, I think Burke was involved. I had my suspicions about it from early on in the case. When John and Patsy sued anyone that put Burke's name on the possible suspect list it made sense to me in a way. They were using it as a way to warn any of their close friends or family that had come up with...

John and Patsy sitting in different rooms stuck out to me. The first time I read that and thought it over it seemed really strange. Some people isolate themselves when stressed , but John and Patsy doing it that morning before their daughters body had even been found just screamed something was...

Yeah, I was surprised to see that many incidents in the Humane Society pdf too. When I ran across that I expected it to be a small list. I don't recall hearing about many of those in the news.

I used to check this thread quite a bit when I was lurking....before I joined. Some amazing developments on this. I noticed some newspaper stories before when I was googling for photos of the circus. It looks like an elephant trampled someone involved with this circus in 2000. Just Google Kenya...

This case has always bugged me. For awhile they would revisit it yearly on the news, but I haven't seen or heard anything recently. I first started reading these forums looking for information on this years ago. I was always surprised that no information was leaked on this....something usually...

Did anyone read anything about the Rav4 possibly having a rear cargo mat? It kind of looks like something was covering that back carpet. I wonder if they can...or could have tested the remains of the rubber in the fire and figured out what kind of rubber or plastic was burned?

Good point. That very well could be. I probably will read it eventually. I wish I would have payed more attention to it back when it happened. I remember that press conference when they told what they thought had happened. It was just so horrible. I deliberately stopped keeping up with it after...

I haven't read the book, but wow...Those mistakes make me wonder if he even wrote it. I mean seriously...what the heck...

Very true. He could have done anything to get put back in prison. I would just love to know if what Brendon said was coming from his own thoughts or something that was fed to him and he repeated it. I'll have to go back and reread. I might have missed it if the police said something like that...