TOM HANEY: "And have you talked about it a lot, have you discussed all of these various theories?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "Over and over and over."
TOM HANEY: "You say he didn't do it and he says you didn't do it, and didn't have any part in any coverup, anything like that. Any staging. That only leaves one other person alive in the house at the time, that's Burke."
PATSY RAMSEY: "And the murderer."
TOM HANEY: "5:52 A.M.?"
PATSY RAMSEY: Okay. So?"
TOM HANEY: "So you said it wasn't you and it wasn't John. Could it have been Burke?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "No. It wouldn't have been Burke."
TOM HANEY: "Why couldn't it?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "How do you believe you saw (inaudible) a ten year old, nine year old boy (inaudible). Plus the fact that he loved his sister."
TOM HANEY: "It's not unheard of for a nine or ten year old child?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "My child is unheard of."
TOM HANEY: "And why is that? What would make him different from some other nine or ten year old?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "Because he was not raised in a family of violence. We are a very loving family."
TOM HANEY: "Could it have been an accident?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "I -- don't know."
TOM HANEY: "Well, you and I don't know because we weren't there?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "Right."
TOM HANEY: "So do you think it could have been, he could have pushed her down the stairs -- "
PATSY RAMSEY: "Burke Ramsey did not do this, okay. He did not do this. Get off it."
TOM HANEY: "How do you know that, though? I mean, have you talked to him about it?"
PATSY RAMSEY: "Yes."
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TH: "What have you told Burke about the murder?"
PR: "To date?"
TH: "To date."
PR: "Well, just that we are going to try to find out who did this to JonBenet. I haven't told him anything about how she was murdered or the details like that."
TH: "What details would he know or had you talked with him about?"
PR: "To be quite honest, we really haven't talked to him much about it. It's too hard, you know, it's hard to talk about."
TH: "Has he volunteered information?"
PR: "No."
TH: "Has he had questions?"
PR: "No."
TH: "Never 'what's going to happen, who did it'?"
PR: "No."
TH: "Did he ever mention getting up at any time during the night?"
PR: "No."
TH: "So he slept through until -- I believe it was John that ultimately got him up to take to the Fernies?"
PR: "Yes, to my knowledge."
TH: "How about with the moving and all of that, has that caused some problems for him, change of schools?"
PR: "Yeah. And I have been in touch with the counselors and the teachers and everybody, alert to this. And they said that -- they are remarkably surprised at how well he is doing. He just makes friends and gets good grades."
TH: "So his adjustment's been pretty -- "
PR: "Been pretty good."
TH: "You mentioned I think when I asked you yesterday, had you seen an interview from last week with Burke. You said no?"
PR: "No."
TH: "There were like three days, and the first two days were pretty basic questions, but on the third day there were questions where the discussion was around JonBenet and death. And I am no psychologist, psychiatrist, but immediately noticed a change in Burke and his demeanor. He's curled up in his chair something like this, not sitting like this, but in a chair like this, and he's half in a fetal position and it seems to be a real struggle, a real difficult time. I am wondering if you noticed anything similar, any changes?"
PR: "Well, I may have -- I have had him in therapy just for this reason."
TH: "Does it seem like he knows more than he is saying, and obviously he's not saying much?"
PR: "Right."
TH: "Like he's keeping something in?"
PR: "As far as something about who did it, I don't think he knows. I mean, he would say."
TH: "Is that something that you have asked the doctor to explore?"
PR: "I don't know if I have directly asked him that."
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can you believe all this BS??