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  1. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died in custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #19 - Chauvin Jury Deliberations #2

    @Sillybilly is it possible to have a sidebar thread?
  2. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    Yes, in some trials I've followed, they sometimes fight, and things can get quite heated. I know during the 2nd penalty trial in the Arias case there was one juror who refused to deliberate, if I recall (someone correct me if I'm wrong)! The foreman sent several notes to the judge; the woman who...
  3. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    OMG- I hadn't heard that. Awful! I don't understand why people behave that way...
  4. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    It's really sad knowing that they almost HAVE to be worried about their safety...
  5. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    I always worry about stealth jurors. I don't understand why, for example, a potential juror will say s/he can vote for the death penalty when they can't or won't. It seems to me that being a juror is a great responsibility, and not something to be toyed with. Then there's jury nullification; not...
  6. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    O/T but can we have a poll to determine what @Sillybilly 's avatar is? ;) (mods, delete if necessary).
  7. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    I have to agree- most of these elected officials are lawyers. Regardless, they should know better than to mouth off during any trial, let alone one of this magnitude.IMO
  8. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    How Charles Manson almost won a mistrial, courtesy of Richard Nixon https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/08/08/how-charles-manson-almost-won-mistrial-courtesy-richard-nixon/
  9. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    IIRC, during the Manson trial, Manson got a hold of a newspaper with the headline "Nixon States Manson is Guilty" (paraphrased). I don't have references close at hand, but I don't think a mistrial was declared. (Although Nixon was a fool to say that). IMO ETA: Manson flashed the paper at the jury.
  10. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    Blackwell up- missed the end of nelson. Hope Blackwell keeps it succinct...
  11. GarAndTeed

    GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, died, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #18 - Chauvin Closing & Deliberations #1

    Did the judge give time limits on closing arguments?

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