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Agreed. Can’t help but wonder if BL had actually succeeded in driving off without her that maybe things would have turned out differently. Seemingly good samaritans were standing by witnessing the altercation. They likely would have consoled her. Maybe she would have been more open and...

Ya and that fear propelled him to get to FL in record time. Likely 3 days or less from the 29th to the 1st.

In timeline posted at beginning of thread, it says the source is Gabby’s uncle. Gabby could have lied to her family as to the reason why she had to stay in hotel. Did he really fly back? Seems unverified. Did Gabby lie about this? Or did BL lie to Gabby? Maybe they tried separating...

*** And not telling her parents he came home without her!!! GAHH, the rage I have for the BL family and GP isn’t even my daughter.

Exactly. Camper used to transport supplies for BL to live in wilderness. Neighbor saw loading up of camper, wonder how much unloading was witnessed. o_O

I laughed hard at this... thank you :D

If the 23 year old knows it’s the last time he’ll be with his parents then it’s not hard to imagine. Planning to go on the run...

My guess is he’s alive. Too selfish and self absorbed for suicide. And when he gets caught (because he’s not that smart to evade LE), his defense will be “the voices made me do it”.

The needle was found because of the massive media attention & publicity. So many other unsolved cases would be solved if they had the same attention.

This generation’s obsession with social media leads to anxiety, stress, and depression. The constant need to live an “Instagram worthy lifestyle”, to create the reality you want to live, while disregarding true reality. It’s not easy to be a kid/ young adult these days. Hopefully, this teaches...

Ya that or from some else who wanted to help him. Without naming names lol

But he suddenly had $200 for the hitch hikers. I agree. He owned nothing. Poor Gabby :(

Yes, exactly. I’m still trying to figure out how a phone can cause a slim bloody gash... I could understand bruise or red spot but what?

I think he was lying most of the time and simply a missed red flag by LE. His description of her attacking him was bumpy. He stumbles, corrects himself etc. Her description of him grabbing her face, is deliberate and specific. Grabbing a face sounds like you’re the one in control... not this...

Good post. BL also mentions he was afraid of her leaving in van without him. He says this around 14:35 mark body came YT video posted by fox 13 Tampa. He gives this as the reason he kept the van keys during the altercation. My guess is threats of this were made throughout the trip. BL to GP...

In the vanished podcast, Ellie confronts her dad multiple times about the cremation and urn expenses. Why he would pay $1,500 in cash with no questions asked to a guy who came by his house. Ellie says to him that it’s not like him to do that. That he never has that much cash laying around and...

Are all three different fathers? Due to how close Oliver and baby on board are... perhaps they have the same father?

ohh no, oh no , no ,no!!

So tragic

Haven't been following this case... do people think she was abducted or wondered off. Article said she was found without clothes. Sounds like foul play... what was the temp? Is hypothermia a possibility?