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I wondered about that, too! But then again, this is where tone of voice, facial expression, etc. can convey so much. Did PR make it seem like maybe one or the other of the kids had picked up the camera and taken odd pictures of nothing in particular? Some young cousins of mine once ran around...

Amazing work, Ames. Just when I think this case can't get any more complicated, something like this pops up! If there were two different pictures, the first one really couldn't be an inappropriate one of JBR, could it? I mean, given the autopsy etc. an inappropriate pic on the R's camera...

My answers: 1) Yes. 2) JR. 2') No. 2") Here goes. I have come to suspect that JR was abusing JBR. I don't think of him as a pedophile; I think if he was molesting JBR it was a crime of opportunity that began as slightly inappropriate conduct and progressed from there. I think it may have...

Oh, Ames, she didn't need coffee, right? She'd had that cup of tea--you know, the one where she brewed the tea, drank it, stuck the cup in the dishwasher--but forgot that she plunked the empty tea bag into BR's discarded water glass on the kitchen table, where she was sitting writing the RN. ;):)

I agree with you here, JMO8778; JR, or whoever inflicted this injury, may not have realized that an acute injury wouldn't obliterate signs of past abuse; even if the person responsible did know this, I think there was some attempt to confuse/compromise the evidence of chronic abuse. Bearing in...

The only reason that doesn't work is that the vaginal injury was inflicted before JBR died. So at this point, if PR has inflicted the head wound and JR the ligature strangulation, technically it is JR who is the murderer! Also, I can't see any reason at all for the WED underwear as opposed to...

JMO8778, I originally thought this too. But when I went back over it I couldn't quite make it fit. Whoever wrote that note, if it was one of the R's, knew absolutely that there could be no possibility of carrying out an elaborate plan that would include the removal of JBR's body on the 26th...

I think there's an even simpler explanation, Ames. Someone wanted to control the timing of the finding of the body. Remember the RN said the KN would call between 8 and 10 'tomorrow'? I'm firmly convinced that 'tomorrow' was a mistake, an oversight on the part of our hapless amateur stagers...

I agree that the first plan was to get JBR out of the house; however, I don't think there was ever a plan to stage the crime like a pedo crime: remember the RN. Even if JBR had been taken out of the house, as I think they originally wanted to do (or at least one of them) the RN would have made...

One thing I've learned about those 'hunches' is that they're not all that reliable when it comes to abuse. Time and time again a tearful mother, or tearful parents, say about an abuser: "We just didn't know. We thought "X" was a terrific guy. We thought the kids were perfectly safe with...

Solace, thank you!!:blushing:

UKGuy, JBR's acute vaginal injury had to be inflicted after she was unconscious. Had to be. Look at the autopsy. There's no bruising of the thighs or labia. There's no sign of trauma, either vaginal or external, associated with a forced penetration. The injury to the hymen is relatively...

All due respect, UKGuy, but I think you're missing my point. Why add to the sexual abuse? Because it was chronic, not acute. Because it would show that abuse had been occurring in the past, not necessarily in the very recent past. Because once the police find evidence of chronic abuse...

The 'sexual assault' thing is the reason I think JR is the one responsible for JBR's death, and that PR is his accomplice after the fact, which I know is the exact opposite of how everyone else looks at this. I think that wound was inflicted, not to stage a pedophile intruder scene, but to...

I should not talk on the phone and post at the same time.:blushing: What I meant was, we can't rule out abuse just because JBR never (apparently) told a parent, whether the parent or someone else was abusing her.

I hate to bring this up yet again, but consider this woman: http://www.missamericabyday.com/speaking.html Marilyn Van Derbur was a 'pageant child,' a bright, outgoing, personable little girl, a warm, confident young woman who became Miss America. And her father sexually violated her from the...

I was looking around on the internet to see if there would be any reason why the R's would want JBR's body found after 10 a.m. and by about 2 p.m. I didn't find what I was looking for, but I did find this website: (Please note that it's a PDF file, so don't open it if you have problems with...

But Holdon, how exactly does someone deposit old, degraded DNA during the course of the commission of a crime? Fresh DNA evidence, no matter HOW tiny a sample, will be relatively complete and will contain the maximum number of identifiable DNA markers. The police could tell that the blood...

Ooooh, that is a good point, that the reason JR 'found' JBR's body was to keep Melinda or JAR from being the ones to find her (and possibly notice too many things wrong with the 'scenario,' as I believe FW did?). I've always believed the RN was written to 'control' the time of the finding of...

JMO8778, Can you elaborate on the "I don't like that face, dad," quote? I've never heard that one before. Thanks!