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The note from the jury has the polished touch that makes me feel it is AI-generated, created by running it through chatgpt.com

I'm surprised that someone in a high level of law enforcement (BA) has no security cameras around his family home. Were there no cameras anywhere ~ their home or neighbors?? It seems odd to me but maybe the cameras are more of a California thing as I have them as do a good number of my neighbors.

I must have missed how that video was found. Was someone monitoring it or didn't someone do a request for it? Thank goodness the footage was still available!

I had this exact thought! It reminded me of Casey Anthony being jealous of all the attention that Caylee got from Cindy and George Anthony and how they protection her in spite of what she did to their grandchild. And CG's affect is like Casey Anthony's as well.

Gosh, isn't that the truth?!? I just took my dog out for a peaceful walk and a brand new neighbor's dog came charging at us after we passed their house (garage door was open) and we were already one house over. I screamed out of fear when I heard/saw the dog (I'm a 65 year old female) and put...

OH WOW ~ thank you for that update on the charges. I was just watching the video again and had these thoughts: 1) I smile similarly like he did when under stress. It is a frozen smile that is not calculated ~ it just occurs. I am an older female. 2) Re Cockfield: It is bizarre to me that he...

These groups (teens and young adults) seemed so entitled. Several even seemed disrespectful in a court of law ~ the ones who really stood out to me as being arrogant during their testimony were OP from the teen group and DC from the adult group. And don't even get me started on MC's interactions...

Thank you for pointing that out. I was incorrect and will fix my post. When was Isaac stabbed? Was it on camera?

I watched the video you linked again and at slow speed and right at the 2:00 mark you can see him stab Isaac. This is after he was pushed down and slapped by Dante; next it is Isaac (not AJ as I named before) that was pushing NM on his shoulders when he was face down in the water. When NM gets...

Yes, I absolutely think NM did some sort of a defensive move based on Maddie's actions. I don't know when Isaac was stabbed, but it appears to me that every other person who NM stabbed had laid hands on NM first. Watching the video in it's entirety made me very uncomfortable and I felt anxiety...

The first part is from memory, but beginning at #3, I used Dante's testimory to try to reconstruct: . You'll have to scroll through to find the various playbacks. It needs work and I'm stopping because it's late, but maybe a few of us can fill in the blanks from the replays in court during the...

Looks like there are some hands on here at 45:39:

I agree with you. The females were in his face and the blond did appear to lay hands on him. She also stuck her phone in his face. There is no video of him hitting her, and the defense, in questioning one of the witnesses, showed still shots of her after *the punch*, holding her beer with phone...

I had different feelings about this until I watched it in order. The drunk and stoned football players were badgering him before he first approached them. At that point, he headed toward their tubes but dropped his mask and snorkel in the water when he got there. At that point, he was more...

I just listened to the conversation between Brianna (CA's baby mama) and Charlie in jail post conviction. When did they become close? I thought they had ongoing issues due to the denied paternity (which was eventually proven) and I thought she also had said some negative things about him on her...

And poor Deiter, their dog, as well. I bet he was crated for most of July. :(

Crazy making! You don’t choose a married man with 2-1/2 kids if you want any firsts with him. You are right ~ the first son could be her only first. She was so damn unbelievably selfish and manipulative and he was just putty in her hands.

Good point!! There were several things he said that made me think he was trying to explain what he had read about online. Another one was when he was talking about the mascara running down her face; most men would say makeup running down her face, or not even mention it. There had been a lot...

Hi ~ I'm a returning first time poster here. I had been a member of this forum back in the Caylee Anthony murder days under a different screen name ~ I can't even recall what it was now. But I'm back after a long break as this case has intrigued me. I agree with all of your points above ~...