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I'm going with no, at this point. (More like 80/20 because PH could be telling the truth.) Etan left home at 8. He would have been close to the bus stop around 8:05. There would have been kids and parents out there at that time. Someone would have seen him close to the bodega. Two things...

I'm fairly certain it's pants. Based on the rest of the writing in the doc and the fact that Trayvon was wearing pants and not jeans.

I think it says: on back/multiple sweatshirts/pants/sneakers (I used to work in a hospital pharmacy, so I'm used to doctors chicken scratch handwriting.) MOO

It should not have been Trayvon's problem that the complex was being burglarized and it should not have been his problem that GZ felt he needed to aggressively determine who belonged in the complex and who did not. George Zimmerman made it Trayvon's problem that night. Aside from the above...

If the shot to Trayvon's chest was direct from front to back, I think it means that both GZ and TM were standing when the shot was fired. I truly believe GZ was enraged about the physical altercation and had TM at gunpoint after the fight stopped. And while standing directly in front him, put...

I wonder if Trayvon had his house keys in his hands and that's what caused the gashes on GZ's head? Anyone think keys could cause GZ's head injuries?

I have PayPal and I have transferred money to my bank account and I have had to wait about 2 days or so for the money to be in my account. Are you sending her money from your own PayPal account? I'm not implying that you are lying, but if it's not money being exchanged in the exact same way...

I'm not fully buying MOM's statement that he would have bonded out the same day if GZ knew about the money. It takes a couple of days to transfer money from your PayPal account into your regular bank account. You have to request it from PayPal and then wait for the deposit to go through.

Respectfully snipped. Does anyone think it was possible that Trayvon was still alive when the officers arrived? Just so severely injured that he was not moving? I'm just wondering if he was killed instantly, which would make GZ's claims that Trayvon spoke after he was shot completely false.

Thanks for this post. I'm looking forward to the links that will be provided by Ninety5rpm.

Your expectation that a 17 year old would have the experience to think that a "crazy person" wouldn't be in a gated community and that the individual following him around was just a "busybody on the board of the HOA, or some other do-gooder resident" is absurd.<Mod Snip>Since you like to place...

This makes sense to me. Maybe Trayvon's elbow hit GZ in the nose before he fell backwards and he hit his head on some unknown object. That would account for all of GZ's injuries and why Trayvon had no bruises or cuts on his hands. Once GZ got up, he drew his weapon, went after Trayvon and...

Question on how things work with a defense lawyer. Let's pretend that GZ tells MOM that the story he told the SPD wasn't true. That he did keep chasing Trayvon and was trying to detain him until the cops came and that it spun out of control and he shot him. But once he realized that he shot an...

Fair enough. I see how you are interpreting it. But it is clear to me that arriving at the scene means arriving at the address given to him by the dispatcher. Which would have been the address of one of the 911 callers where shots were reported to have been fired.

I have no issues with the times given by the officers. jjenny has questions about when the officers arrived on scene and why GZ is on the phone and not in handcuffs. I am offering up a possible explanation. I am simply saying that I believe it is possible the officer arrived on scene at apx...

And that address would have changed when the dispatcher later informed him that shots had now been fired at one of the addresses given by one of the 911 callers. He would have responded to the updated information and address given to him. He wouldn't have gone to the clubhouse. MOO

The issue I have with the date/time stamp on the photo is that I don't know who took that photo and I don't know what time the photo was actually taken. I am not saying the photo has been tampered with, but I have the time on my cell phone set 5 minutes ahead because I'm always late. So the...

But wouldn't he have been dispatched to a specific address? He knew exactly where he was going. He would have pulled up in front of the house with the address given to him. Canvassing was probably walking around the houses toward the commotion around the back. That couldn't have taken long...

Still catching up, but wanted to comment on this, so I apologize if it has been addressed. I listened carefully several times and was able to hear "he's watching" once in about 3 attempts to catch it. This thought of someone else being with GZ now makes me think about the tapping noises heard...