NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #10

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CoolJ said:
So according to the autopsy Paddock was 6'1 with brown eyes.

And according to pictures AND official government documents he was 6'4 with blue eyes.

geez and not too long ago somebody here was being chastised for trying to substantiate whether the body was actually Paddock.

Not such an outlandish thought anymore now is it?
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Have we ever seen his birth certificate?
 
Thoughts on Haig saying SP went to his car to get his gloves......?
 
Since we are analyzing the 1 Oct FIT report has anyone seen a different FIT event report for comparison? If mods would allow it then I`d be happy to share a different one to compare. It shows a very contrasting narrative to the 1 Oct report.

OT anyone come across Nevada Silver Shield specifically inmanned arial units? Google it and review the images for page sources. Very interesting reading on GIS mapping tools for LV. Still trying to read more to determine its relevancy.
 
kdg411 said:
We at WS haven`t discussed it because it hasn`t been in MSM however, I have seen it but can`t post due to TOS.
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I suggest PM or email to Tricia on this and the FIT you mentioned. Missing pieces are of interest to all of us here. Due to the nature of this bizarre event-investigation we have been allowed to move around a bit, though at Tricia’s directive.
 
CoolJ said:
So according to the autopsy Paddock was 6'1 with brown eyes.

And according to pictures AND official government documents he was 6'4 with blue eyes.

geez and not too long ago somebody here was being chastised for trying to substantiate whether the body was actually Paddock.

Not such an outlandish thought anymore now is it?
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I don't believe for one second the body of "that man" was SP....looks nothing like his pictures,

I won't believe SP had anything to do with this unless they release photos or videos of him on the property,

What is so hard about releasing a simple 10 or 20 second video showing SP walking through MB lobby on his way to his room?

There is NO WAY to hide from cameras on your way to your room at MB, even if you repelled up the outside of the damn building, you would STILL be on camera,

SP must have made several trips in and out of his room during these days....so lets see a simple 10 second clip showing him walking through the lobby or the casino....that shouldn't be hard to obtain.....

If he brought all these guns to his room there MUST BE VIDEO of him carrying parcels to his room......so lets see it Mandalay Bay!....we are waiting!
 
kdg411 said:
We at WS haven`t discussed it because it hasn`t been in MSM however, I have seen it but can`t post due to TOS.
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If its legitimate, verifiable and from the correct source.. same with everything..
I , personally cannot be bothered researching rumors from known fake media or conspiracy sites. I will not put time into them.
 
Pickl said:
I don't believe for one second the body of "that man" was SP....looks nothing like his pictures,

I won't believe SP had anything to do with this unless they release photos or videos of him on the property,

What is so hard about releasing a simple 10 or 20 second video showing SP walking through MB lobby on his way to his room?

There is NO WAY to hide from cameras on your way to your room at MB, even if you repelled up the outside of the damn building, you would STILL be on camera,

SP must have made several trips in and out of his room during these days....so lets see a simple 10 second clip showing him walking through the lobby or the casino....that shouldn't be hard to obtain.....

If he brought all these guns to his room there MUST BE VIDEO of him carrying parcels to his room......so lets see it Mandalay Bay!....we are waiting!
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a 10 sec video clip is not going to do it for me. Although it would be nice and would at least confirm he was there for those 10 sec.

I want to see video of him with all of his "luggage" in the service elevator. Laura Loomer has confirmed there are camera's in the service elevator.

Even still, video's of him in and around MBay those days would not confirm him as a shooter. There are other possible scenarios as to why he would be bringing multiple firearms into a Vista Suite.

However, the lack of such videos at this point in time is certainly very suspicious.
 
CoolJ said:
a 10 sec video clip is not going to do it for me
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of course a 10 second video clip is not proof of guilt.....i just meant that to be a starting point.....something that should be easy to do
 
kittythehare said:
If its legitimate, verifiable and from the correct source.. same with everything..
I , personally cannot be bothered researching rumors from known fake media or conspiracy sites. I will not put time into them.
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What is a "known fake media or conspiracy" site ?

Because to me, it seems the independent journalists are the only ones doing any investigative journalism into this deception.

Are all independent journalists automatically deemed "fake media"? How do you decipher that?
 
Pickl said:
of course a 10 second video clip is not proof of guilt.....i just meant that to be a starting point.....something that should be easy to do
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Exactly, it should be very easy to do. And the LVMPD should have included it with their FIT report. The only options for why they didn't are:

1) There isn't any video of him in MBay on those dates
2) They need more time to alter the video to make it FIT with their narrative
3) They are deliberately screwing with the public, trying to create controversy... trying to create conspiracy theories

I suspect, at some point in time, we will see some amount of video of him carrying luggage around inside MBay.
 
kittythehare said:
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/f...-oct-1-shooting-autopsi/#.WnkDWadpwBM.twitter
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Per the link

Clark County District Court Judge Richard Scotto plans a Feb. 12 hearing on a filing by lawyers for Veronica Hartfield about documents released last Wednesday under a media public records lawsuit.
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Interesting to note that the only person, thus far, that has taken up an issue with the autopsy release is directly linked to LVMPD. And even though these reports were released, MSM hasn`t linked to any of them.
 
kdg411 said:
Per the link



Interesting to note that the only person, thus far, that has taken up an issue with the autopsy release is directly linked to LVMPD. And even though these reports were released, MSM hasn`t linked to any of them.
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Medical examiners often are able to determine how a bullet struck a person and the path it made through his or her body. Some reports of the Oct. 1 victims noted that the wounds showed “no evidence of close-range firing.”

Many of the reports also reveal whether victims had drugs or alcohol in their systems at the time of death. They do not detail the location of death or note whether victims were transported to hospitals. Many of the victims’ bodies showed signs of medical intervention, such as those left by intravascular catheters in their arms.

 https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...eports-of-58-victims-from-las-vegas-shooting/
 
kdg411 said:
Per the link



Interesting to note that the only person, thus far, that has taken up an issue with the autopsy release is directly linked to LVMPD. And even though these reports were released, MSM hasn`t linked to any of them.
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Also from this link:

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/f...-oct-1-shooting-autopsi/#.WnkDWadpwBM.twitter

...Attorneys for media including The Associated Press argue that once personal identifiers are redacted, claims to privacy no longer apply...

Once a person dies claims to privacy no longer apply, Mr. Media Attorneys. The dead do not enjoy rights. Redacting personal identifiers has no effect on a non-existent right. This is a (ohwhatdoyoucallitkind of argument) non-argument, a logical fallacy. A disjunct. Something. And it's trying to trick your thinking. It might succeed, too, because death is a hard thing to think about, and many will avoid doing so.

This issue is about the feelings and sensitivities of the living, and should be framed in those terms. "Attorneys for the media including the Associated Press" = blowing smoke up our skirts = false news.
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kittythehare said:
Medical examiners often are able to determine how a bullet struck a person and the path it made through his or her body. Some reports of the Oct. 1 victims noted that the wounds showed “no evidence of close-range firing.”

Many of the reports also reveal whether victims had drugs or alcohol in their systems at the time of death. They do not detail the location of death or note whether victims were transported to hospitals. Many of the victims’ bodies showed signs of medical intervention, such as those left by intravascular catheters in their arms.

 https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...eports-of-58-victims-from-las-vegas-shooting/
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Also from your link

Bullet fragments were recovered from many victims’ bodies. Some of the autopsy reports indicate that these fragments were submitted to police.
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So, LE has the bullet fragments to make it FIT in their story. The coroner already released the names of victims and the FIT report identified them all again and included 2 maps pinpointing their location as well as the hospital they were taken to.

If early reports showed none of the victims were killed in close range, where is the analysis and trajectory detail to make that assessment?
 
kittythehare said:
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...ing-floor-associated-with-las-vegas-shooting/

sorted.
lv style.
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Of course. From your link:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...ing-floor-associated-with-las-vegas-shooting/

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...The 43-story building had an unorthodox floor numbering system even before the shooting. Mandalay Bay elevators stopped at floors 1 through 34 and 60 through 63. There was no 40 through 59...

...The Mandalay elevators will now indicate floors 1 through 30 and 56 through 63. Four Seasons will keep 35 through 39...

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I'm dizzy.
 
kittythehare said:
Medical examiners often are able to determine how a bullet struck a person and the path it made through his or her body. Some reports of the Oct. 1 victims noted that the wounds showed “no evidence of close-range firing.”

Many of the reports also reveal whether victims had drugs or alcohol in their systems at the time of death. They do not detail the location of death or note whether victims were transported to hospitals. Many of the victims’ bodies showed signs of medical intervention, such as those left by intravascular catheters in their arms.

 https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...eports-of-58-victims-from-las-vegas-shooting/
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From link :
"Three weeks ago, a judge ordered the coroner to pay about $32,000 in legal costs to the Las Vegas Review-Journal for refusing to release public records to the newspaper."

Wow... this is the first I've heard about that.
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