NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #10

[kdg411]

Cremated remains of Las Vegas mass shooter to be kept in safe deposit box, brother says

Without fanfare, the cremated remains of Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock were released to his brother, who said he intends to store them in a bank deposit box “to make sure there’s no hoopla around Steve’s remains.”

Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg issued a statement Thursday saying that, “due to security concerns, we felt it was important to deliver the remains in a secure manner, which was accomplished.”

When after death can a cremation take place?

Cremation cannot take place until the following legal documents have been finalized: the death certificate is signed by the certifier (physician or medical examiner/coroner), the funeral director, and the county registrar. A burial-transit permit is issued by the county in which the death occurs. The next of kin gives written permission for the cremation unless the deceased signed their own cremation authorization prior to their death.

BBM

 

[kittythehare]

Cremated remains of Las Vegas mass shooter to be kept in safe deposit box, brother says

Without fanfare, the cremated remains of Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock were released to his brother, who said he intends to store them in a bank deposit box “to make sure there’s no hoopla around Steve’s remains.”

Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg issued a statement Thursday saying that, “due to security concerns, we felt it was important to deliver the remains in a secure manner, which was accomplished.”

When after death can a cremation take place?

Cremation cannot take place until the following legal documents have been finalized: the death certificate is signed by the certifier (physician or medical examiner/coroner), the funeral director, and the county registrar. A burial-transit permit is issued by the county in which the death occurs. The next of kin gives written permission for the cremation unless the deceased signed their own cremation authorization prior to their death.

BBM

a death cert is not an autopsy report.
his cause of death was released , it's the full autopsy report that is missing. cause of death or apparent cause of death is sufficient for a death cert.

 

[CoolJ]

a death cert is not an autopsy report.
his cause of death was released , it's the full autopsy report that is missing. cause of death or apparent cause of death is sufficient for a death cert.

Have we seen or heard of a death certificate for Paddock?

 

[kdg411]

https://www.apnews.com/705ccbbc7ab847c2a766eeb6b0810430

Oct. 14, 2017

Clark County Coroner John Fudenberg (FYOU’-den-berg) said Friday that an autopsy was completed on 64-year-old Stephen Craig Paddock, but a finding on a cause and manner of his death is not expected for several months.

Fudenberg says Paddock’s body will be returned to his family after forensic test results are known.

If all testing is complete then what logical and/or excuse is left?

 

[Gooddeeds]

I don’t think we have seen SP (correct me on the things, if seen):

Death or birth certificate
Most recent and final activities (footage)
Drivers license
Gun & range licenses
Pilot licenses
Diplomas
Cell phone provider account/activity. Last and recent calls, text...
Passport
Bank of choice (can’t recall if we have the transfer info)
Autopsy
Yearbook captions
Last medical check up report (on paper&digital)
Wound shot (s)
Players Card (s)
Love letters...if such a thing exist...

I do think the public is entitled in this case due to the obvious reasons. The entitlement carries additional weight due to the nonsense that they want us to believe and how they have gone about it from day one...and still...

We have seen footage on most shooters rather quickly, Dead or Alive.

It astounds me that we have not seen ANYTHING from MB. At the moment I can only reference Princess Diana’s last few days at the hotel. And she was not entering and exiting with the masses, where seemingly there is ‘little to no surveillance.’ That death carried the ultimate possible implications and with the ongoing investigation but yet we saw the activity footage and photos including entering the hotel room.

 

[watergirl62]

sorry if mentioned regarding being under oath already

i had heard about a claim that they saw him kill himself . I did not realize that it was under oath.

pg 41 ( I think timewise this is the first statement)

Lombardos lie about engaging the subject is in there 302 in the morning of the shooting



Isn't that called PERJURY?

I also did catch that two officers then disputed that

so

one way or the other that could be two counts of perjury??

anyone heard about any perjury charges one way or another>

both cant be correct now can they!

William brewer and Kenneth Mead both say he was dead when they entered pg 18 pg 20

its cut copy pasted statements

another two narratives -- the appear cut and paste eeeeee !

*snip*

Perjury only occurs in court under oath. So yes, if they had to testify, somebody here would be perjuring themselves with the conflicting statements if the affidavits and search warrants were brought into evidence. IANAL, but I have followed many trials here, and shoddy or questionable police work will get scrutinized by defense in criminal court. I don't know how you take LE to court. Perhaps an internal affairs or DOJ investigation? Dunno.

 

[watergirl62]

https://www.apnews.com/705ccbbc7ab847c2a766eeb6b0810430

Oct. 14, 2017





If all testing is complete then what logical and/or excuse is left?

a) Obfuscation
b) Stonewalling
c) Not. Gonna. Happen.
d) Safest city in America
e) all of the above

 

[kittythehare]

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...gas-shooter-gets-extension-to-remove-arsenal/

 

[kittythehare]

A judge on Wednesday ordered Las Vegas police to release 911 calls and body camera footage from the night of Oct. 1, when a mass shooting on the Strip left 58 dead and more than 500 injured.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/judge-orders-release-of-recordings-from-night-of-las-vegas-shooting/

Scotti noted that identifying information from the 911 calls, as well as certain scenes from body camera footage that may show shooting victims, may be redacted.

Records are expected to be released on a rolling basis over the next 30 days. Metro attorneys argued that the request may take longer than 30 days, so the judge set a follow-up hearing for next month.

 

[CARIIS]

ot

Pulse update

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...e-knew-attack-plans-statement-fbi/1008079001/

 

[HMSHood]

I don’t think we have seen SP (correct me on the things, if seen):

Death or birth certificate
Most recent and final activities (footage)
Drivers license
Gun & range licenses
Pilot licenses
Diplomas
Cell phone provider account/activity. Last and recent calls, text...
Passport
Bank of choice (can’t recall if we have the transfer info)
Autopsy
Yearbook captions
Last medical check up report (on paper&digital)
Wound shot (s)
Players Card (s)
Love letters...if such a thing exist...

I do think the public is entitled in this case due to the obvious reasons. The entitlement carries additional weight due to the nonsense that they want us to believe and how they have gone about it from day one...and still...

We have seen footage on most shooters rather quickly, Dead or Alive.

It astounds me that we have not seen ANYTHING from MB. At the moment I can only reference Princess Diana’s last few days at the hotel. And she was not entering and exiting with the masses, where seemingly there is ‘little to no surveillance.’ That death carried the ultimate possible implications and with the ongoing investigation but yet we saw the activity footage and photos including entering the hotel room.

There are so many unanswered questions.

I have not heard much of Stephen Paddock's childhood. Some say there was nothing off about him.

I suspect there was something off about him, like we hear with other mass killers.

 

[CARIIS]

CARIIS. Man! Reading you is like hooking directly in to a stream of the collective unconscious, full blast: exhausting, exciting, chaotic, compelling, disturbing, and so honest, it hurts.

I hope you never change.

This is actually sweet - am cracking up YOU described the experience perfectly. In my head!!!

 

[CARIIS]

There are so many unanswered questions.

I have not heard much of Stephen Paddock's childhood. Some say there was nothing off about him.

I suspect there was something off about him, like we hear with other mass killers.

The only little we got is from our Eric!

Mental illness does have a generic component!

Pondered SchizoAffective!!

only thing we got was poverty -- there was a thing about living in a car

his mother having a hard time being alone

acknowledged that they were bad kids and hard to manage

would be really neat to know if he has a criminal and or inpt placement history!

he clearly alluded to "having a past" or something to that effect

Just spoeculating but while he was talking I also pondered sibling on sibling sexual abuse .

Steven was a father role for him and that often happens with family secrets and needing a protector.

The one brother is mysterious as heck. It is like he does not exist .

So we have hypothetically :

The biggest mass shooter in history
Possibly a reasonably ill second sibling
A vanishing third sibling
and a hard core drug addict

a father that was a criminal and a con and then later an FBI informant for a decade

I aint getting the Brady Bunch here !!

That pretty much all I recall from Erics totally inappropriate (affectively) ramblings! I also found him interesting in that there was differences (subtle) in his second appearance the day after he freaked the world out - one strange individual!!

 

[watergirl62]

CARIIS, thanks for posting that, I didn't know anything about his dad. Sounds like the kind of man you don't want to *advertiser censored** with. He was a big guy - 6ft 4in 250 lbs.
A scary psychopathic man with suicidal tendencies. Huh.


OT: DH is 6ft 8in 245lbs and looks pretty trim but what I find fascinating about big tall guys is the ability to intimidate or persuade others by just standing up or approaching or hovering. It is a psychological advantage to be sure. Walk in a room together and I can hear the quietly-spoken 'dayuuums.'


[emoji195] Thanks for the rabbit hole! [emoji195]


https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...r-and-spent-part-childhood-arizona/724066001/

 

[Gooddeeds]

The only little we got is from our Eric!

Mental illness does have a generic component!

Pondered SchizoAffective!!

only thing we got was poverty -- there was a thing about living in a car

his mother having a hard time being alone

acknowledged that they were bad kids and hard to manage

would be really neat to know if he has a criminal and or inpt placement history!

he clearly alluded to "having a past" or something to that effect

Just spoeculating but while he was talking I also pondered sibling on sibling sexual abuse .

Steven was a father role for him and that often happens with family secrets and needing a protector.

The one brother is mysterious as heck. It is like he does not exist .

So we have hypothetically :

The biggest mass shooter in history
Possibly a reasonably ill second sibling
A vanishing third sibling
and a hard core drug addict

a father that was a criminal and a con and then later an FBI informant for a decade

I aint getting the Brady Bunch here !!

That pretty much all I recall from Erics totally inappropriate (affectively) ramblings! I also found him interesting in that there was differences (subtle) in his second appearance the day after he freaked the world out - one strange individual!!

Iirc it is the brother ‘BRUCE’ Paddock who conned his way into the old folks home and was recently busted for *advertiser censored*? Any updates on him?

 

[Gooddeeds]

BRUCE-check out his photo

Bruce Paddock was on the run from authorities for more than two years
He would allegedly change his appearances and move from place to place
Reportedly, he also rigged his homes with surveillance cameras and booby traps
He was taken into custody from an assisted living facility on Wednesday
Police found more than 600 child *advertiser censored* images on Bruce's computer
Bruce entered a plea of not guilty to two felony charges on Friday
He is the brother of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, who killed 58


https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...gas-shooter-s-brother-avoided-cops-years.html

 

[Gooddeeds]

More from my previous on Bruce:


According to the 20-page criminal complaint, Bruce faces one count of possession of more than 600 images of child *advertiser censored* and 19 counts of sexual exploitation of a child.

Police say the crimes happened between January 1, 2014 and August 30, 2014.

The LAPD released Bruce's mugshot 'in case there may be victims of unreported incidents'.


Bruce also threatened to murder a property owner in 2014, while he was squatting at a home in the San Fernando Valley.

The home owner, Hector Cruz, told KTLA that Bruce was a longtime friend and he was going through a hard time that year when he asked to come over to his auto shop to fix his car.

Instead, he ended up squatting in the attic of the business and soon became a nuisance to workers.

Crime seems to run in the Paddock family. Bruce and Stephen's father, Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, was a notorious bank robber who was on the FBI's most Wanted List for nearly a decade.

Benjamin was sentenced to 20 years in prison for a series of bank robberies in the late 50s and early 60s. But in 1968, he broke out of jail and went on the run.

He was put on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives List form 1969 until 1977 - when he was caught at a bingo parlor he started in Oregon. He died in 1998 at a correctional facility in Texas at the age of 71.

During his lifetime, he was diagnosed as being psychopathic.

Stephen was the oldest of his four sons with Dolores Irene Hudson. The 64-year-old killed 58 people and injured more than 400 after opening fire from his sniper's nest in the Mandalay Bay hotel and casino on October 1. Stephen committed suicide as police stormed his room.

 

[Gooddeeds]

https://i-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.amppr...00000578-5016979-image-a-12_1508947437166.jpg

-DADS FBI WANTED MUGSHOT (cant attach from my location)



https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...ce-paddock-20171025-story.html?outputType=amp

-“Bruce Paddock was apprehended at a nursing home that offers patients long- and short-term medical care. A spokeswoman for the facility confirmed the police activity occurred there but declined to comment on Paddock, citing patient privacy laws.

The suspect is one of four brothers. Their father, Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, was a convicted bank robber who was once placed on the FBI's Most Wanted list.

Bruce Paddock has had numerous run-ins with local law enforcement over the last 25 years, according to Los Angeles County criminal records.
In 1989, he was charged with assault and battery and criminal contempt of court, although the charges were later dismissed, according to court records.
In 1993, Paddock was CHARGED WITH ANNOYING A CHILD UNDER 18 BUT WAS ACQUITTED, court records show.

Between 1994 and 1995, prosecutors accused Paddock of various property crimes and driving without a license. He twice pleaded no contest to driving on a suspended license and to tampering with a vehicle, according to court documents.”

As CARIIS has brought up, the element of ‘Child *advertiser censored* and trafficking’

 

[kittythehare]

DOUG POPPA- LATEST

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/la...econds-terror/2018/02/09#sthash.sqtljrFa.uxfs

Armed Mandalay Bay security officers along with Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department (LVMPD) police officers were fully aware within seconds of the location of the active shooter, Stephen Paddock after he opened fire.


MGM Resorts International, the owners of the Mandalay Bay Hotel could have taken preventive security measures years ago to prevent Stephen Paddock’s arsenal of death from ever reaching his room. Instead, the corporation dismissed warnings from the US Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, post-September 2011, that Las Vegas infrastructure was a prime target for possible terrorist attacks, i.e. Mumbai, India type attack and or an active shooter incident.

The LVMPD could have had counter-snipers near the concert arena, on the ready, just in case they were needed to suppress a sniper from any number of hotel high-rise towers that surrounded the open-air Route 91 Music Festival.

To add insult to injury, the 40-member LVMPD SWAT Team, one of the most respected SWAT Teams in the country, which has been allotted millions of taxpayer dollars throughout the years for manpower, training, and equipment, was not available to enter Paddock’s suite.

lots here. very comprehensive article

 

[CoolJ]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/0...es-is-arrested-after-standoff-police-say.html


This is one of the cops who was guarding 32-135 during the breach. Interesting to say the least.