NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #10

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I don't agree with the obvious deception or hiding of evidence here, but researching this is really a big waste of time.....the truth will never be revealed, its another JFK or 9/11

JFK was supposedly shot by a lone gunman also....hhhhmmmm

My money is still on terrorism here.....possibly ISIS.....I think they are afraid to reveal that because there would be widespread panic if the public found out how easily a terrorist group could pull this off.....also, it would embarrass the LVPD and FBI

just my 2 cents
You're probably right that we'll never get to the whole truth of Stephen Paddock or the terrible events of October 1, but I disagree with the idea that researching the official narrative is a waste of time. Knowledge is power, especially where governments are concerned. Maybe the details don't matter, except to the degree that they uncover other issues. Truth: innocent people were murdered. Details: how did this happen? Could Las Vegas authorities have prevented that? Was their response appropriate? Where was the SWAT team? Why does the official story change? These are the kind of questions that, if answered, might change the future. Our future.

It looks as if a crazy man did a crazy thing. That's terrible enough. But even if we found that an ATF gun-running op went south, or that a Saudi prince was in the stairwell with Campos, or we could prove that crisis actors who died at Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon were also among Las Vegas's victims, nothing would change. We can't prosecute anybody ourselves, or prevent free people from doing dishonest things. And if we learn that princes buy guns from Vegas hotel suites, and that the ATF has agents posed as security guards, and that there are websites advertising for actors for upcoming disaster drills, we will be more careful to pay attention to these kinds of things. We will have empowered ourselves with a more cynical trust and a more careful nature. We will require more detailed reporting, more accurate statistics, and a better response from officials when things go wrong. We will remember to look at the world around us, to talk to our neighbors, to question authority. We will be awake, and we will be less likely to become victims in the same way again.

I think that's a fair trade for doing some research.
 
Since Fudenberg was ordered to release all 59 reports and didn`t could he be held in contempt for violating a federal judge`s order? Where are these heavily redacted reports on the 58?

I reviewed the LV Coroner webpage and got a bit purturbed, for lack of a better word. I don`t recall seeing a coroners page anywhere selling items like a gift shop.

http://www.vegascoroner.com

OT LVMPD 2017-2018 fiscal budget shows 65 SWAT positions 5.4Million in salary pay...only 1 showed up on 10-1 @ MB. :thinking:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjABegQIEBAB&usg=AOvVaw0DMuadR6S5zh7cMOozpDJA
That isn't the coroner page. It is one of those fake pages you can stumble on occassionally when you mis enter the web address. Here is the real page, not to defend his actions.
http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/coroner/Pages/default.aspx
 
Will not believe SP had anything to do with this until a PHOTO OF HIM or a VIDEO OF HIM is released that CLEARLY shows him being on the hotel property that day, or in the hotel room on that day...sorry but I don't believe that guy on the hotel floor is him dead...looks nothing like him....

I have been to Mandalay Bay 20 times or more.....

the minute you set foot inside the Mandalay Bay you are captured on 100's or 1000's of video cameras, there are no hiding places....no way to be out of camera to get to your room.....what is so hard about releasing these videos???

sorry, but I ain't buying any of the police or government issued nonsense until i see PROOF SP was there....because to this day there has been NONE!

Why not release a simple video of him walking through the lobby?....or the casino???....because there is none, thats why!!

Don’t recall where and what, though it was recently mentioned that there are 2 contrasting reports on SPs weight and height via the investigation.

Anyone else see this yet?
 
Thanks for the info..On the left hand side of the page you just posted click on Coroner`s Collection. It`s linked to the Clark County NV Coroner`s Page.
After i was able to pick my jaw off the floor... really.
 
After i was able to pick my jaw off the floor... really.

I saw your “jaw” for sale on there for 20 bucks...they are using it as a business card holder. [emoji15]


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Don’t recall where and what, though it was recently mentioned that there are 2 contrasting reports on SPs weight and height via the investigation.

Anyone else see this yet?

There is a discrepancy with eye color as well.
 
After i was able to pick my jaw off the floor... really.
That's nothin'..
In a very early thread here a FAKE CNN site declared campos had been arrested for being co-conspirator with paddock.
we shared it here and we were so shocked and so much to delete afterwards... took all night to report our posts..
there's an awful lot of weird sites being set up on foot of this massacre..
 
That's nothin'..
In a very early thread here a FAKE CNN site declared campos had been arrested for being co-conspirator with paddock.
we shared it here and we were so shocked and so much to delete afterwards... took all night to report our posts..
there's an awful lot of weird sites being set up on foot of this massacre..

What did y’all see? Did I miss the excitement?
 
Will not believe SP had anything to do with this until a PHOTO OF HIM or a VIDEO OF HIM is released that CLEARLY shows him being on the hotel property that day, or in the hotel room on that day...sorry but I don't believe that guy on the hotel floor is him dead...looks nothing like him....

I have been to Mandalay Bay 20 times or more.....

the minute you set foot inside the Mandalay Bay you are captured on 100's or 1000's of video cameras, there are no hiding places....no way to be out of camera to get to your room.....what is so hard about releasing these videos???

sorry, but I ain't buying any of the police or government issued nonsense until i see PROOF SP was there....because to this day there has been NONE!

Why not release a simple video of him walking through the lobby?....or the casino???....because there is none, thats why!!

Since he is the lone-shooter and an already familiar face to the area there is no good reason to withhold footage. He’s dead...too.

Think of the other scenarios where we see footage pretty quickly...

Plus I imagine Walgreens, his dry cleaner, Wal Mart, fuel stations and others have him reeled more than a few times. So it’s not even logical for them to think they are ‘the bounty’
 
A Las Vegas judge will now allow claims against certain members of Wynn Resorts Ltd.’s board to go forward in the long legal battle with ousted director and shareholder Kazuo Okada.

The ruling Monday by Nevada District Court Judge Elizabeth Gonzalez reverses an earlier decision that would have prevented claims against the directors based on their 2012 vote to remove Okada from the board and redeem his shares.

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Snipped from: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...allow-claims-against-wynn-board-in-okada-suit
 
Since he is the lone-shooter and an already familiar face to the area there is no good reason to withhold footage. He’s dead...too.

Think of the other scenarios where we see footage pretty quickly...

Plus I imagine Walgreens, his dry cleaner, Wal Mart, fuel stations and others have him reeled more than a few times. So it’s not even logical for them to think they are ‘the bounty’

This has been my biggest issue with this investigation from the start. What's up with all the secrecy if this was committed by a lone wolf and said wolf is D-E-A-D, DEAD!? It just doesn't make logical sense for LE to fight tooth and nail to withhold the details from the public. I don't buy their excuse about pending charges because those details SHOULD HAVE BEEN easy to redact.

My prevailing theory is that LE grossly failed to protect and serve on the night of the shooting. I think LE failed to follow the protocol for a mass shooting event (due to their own fears, the mass chaos, conflicting reports, or whatever), and as a result, the public was left unprotected and endangered for far too long. They don't want the public to know they screwed up (obviously), so they've kept things vague, changed up the narrative, and requested to have the reports sealed. Once they realized they were fighting an uphill battle, they released the preliminary report. They made the release of the report sound like it was a gracious act on their behalf... like we should all be thanking them for "making this exception". In reality, that report was likely just another attempt to control the narrative before the court documents were released.

I have yet to see a single document, or explanation given, about what actually occurred during the 30 to 45 minutes between arriving on the 32nd floor and breaching the hotel room doors. There's a clear gap of time that hasn't been addressed. OK, they thought the camera on the food cart might be a bomb. So did the officers just stand around and stare at the thing for 30 minutes? I'm confused.


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So according to the autopsy Paddock was 6'1 with brown eyes.

And according to pictures AND official government documents he was 6'4 with blue eyes.

geez and not too long ago somebody here was being chastised for trying to substantiate whether the body was actually Paddock.

Not such an outlandish thought anymore now is it?
 
This has been my biggest issue with this investigation from the start. What's up with all the secrecy if this was committed by a lone wolf and said wolf is D-E-A-D, DEAD!? It just doesn't make logical sense for LE to fight tooth and nail to withhold the details from the public. I don't buy their excuse about pending charges because those details SHOULD HAVE BEEN easy to redact.

My prevailing theory is that LE grossly failed to protect and serve on the night of the shooting. I think LE failed to follow the protocol for a mass shooting event (due to their own fears, the mass chaos, conflicting reports, or whatever), and as a result, the public was left unprotected and endangered for far too long. They don't want the public to know they screwed up (obviously), so they've kept things vague, changed up the narrative, and requested to have the reports sealed. Once they realized they were fighting an uphill battle, they released the preliminary report. They made the release of the report sound like it was a gracious act on their behalf... like we should all be thanking them for "making this exception". In reality, that report was likely just another attempt to control the narrative before the court documents were released.

I have yet to see a single document, or explanation given, about what actually occurred during the 30 to 45 minutes between arriving on the 32nd floor and breaching the hotel room doors. There's a clear gap of time that hasn't been addressed. OK, they thought the camera on the food cart might be a bomb. So did the officers just stand around and stare at the thing for 30 minutes? I'm confused.


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Your final paragraph, I can only say- if they were wise they legged it.. who in their right mind???
I agree with your thoughts and impressions.
 

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