17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #10

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Good morning people...been gone awhile, since I lost my password and my login name...silly me...I've forgotten since I took a long hiatus...

I didn't read all the way back on this thread but I stumbled upon ACooper and his listening to the tape GZ made with that possible racial slur..It appears to me, he did say what is being said...


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-isola...rtin-911-call/

Scroll down to the video...It does appear to sound like he did say ******ing C**ns...if this is what the FBI/ACory hears, GZ should be arrested and hate crime will be attached...

I will be extremely important if this is what is determined to be stated during GZ's call...then the Feds become involved with a hate crime attached...I believe he should and will be arrested if ACory determines that is exactly what he said..

Justice for Trayvon Martin
 
Okay, I slept last night and just jumped to this thread. Reading the end of the last one, I see that there are still some misconceptions about GZ's father being a judge in Virginia. Having lived in the area in Virginia, I hope I can help.

First of all, a Supreme Court Magistrate Judge is not a judge and doesn't even have to be a lawyer. Here is the official definition of the job.

http://www.bvso.net/Documents/The Office of The Virginia Magistrate.pdf

Magistratedefinition.jpg


The Zimmerman family is reported to be from Manassas, VA, which is in Prince William County. Note that there is an Orange County south of Prince William. It is a highly commutable distance, going against the rush hour flow. It is highly possible that this was Z Sr.'s workplace.

VAmap.jpg


http://www.digital-topo-maps.com/county-map/virginia.shtml
 
I Believe that is what he said too IMO :moo:

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If he is not arrested, I'm afraid of what will happen. Really. This has gotten bigger than big. Oprah, herself weighed in on it today. The stuff with Spike Lee. the NOLA officer that got fired. The woman reported at that college that printed a cartoon. This is huge.

And, I'm really afraid if they come out and say "yep, SPD was right - we don't have enough to charge him" that places all over the country now will burn.



JMHO

what a sad commentary on our country.
 
In the police report it states that "Located on the inside of Zimmermann's waistband,I removed a black Kel Tek 9mm PF9 semi-auto handgun and holster".

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf

Here's what sticks out for me in this police report...

page 3
According to the police report, Trayvon was face down, hands underneath his body, no pulse...the police turned him over and attemped resusitation efforts...pronounced dead at 1930 hours...by paramedic Brady..


page7

Z shot the suspect and was still armed..LE removed gun from the inside of waistband, removed the kel tek 9mm PF9 semi automatic handgun and holster.While I was in close contact with Z, I noticed his back appeared to be wet and covered in grass as if he'd been lying on his back on the ground. Z was also bleeding from his nose and the back of his head...

Z was placed in the back of my police vehicle and given first aid by SFD..While SFD was attending to Z I overheard him state "I was yelling for someone to help me but no one helped me". At no point did I question Z about the incident that had taken place. Once Z was cleared by SFD, he was transported to the SPD...

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress....olicreport.pdf


Since Trayvon was found with his hands underneath his body, that would mean to me, that he was not in a defensive position. It appears he died right as the bullet struck him..and GZ was straddled on his back with his hands in his back..he didn't even try to render aid..I believe he meant to murder this unarmed teen..

GZ words will get him arrested...besides the alleged racial slur, he during that call stated, these *******s always get away...Trayvon was not going to get away...

GZ was treated at the scene and released, so his 'injuries' did not require being in the hospital...but now it's turned into a broken nose and needed stitches in the back of his head..I say hogwash..dude is just trying to make it appear, Trayvon was the agressor..He should have stayed in his vehicle and not persue Trayvon...I am very happy the Mayor of Sanford released that video..it's clear he did not have a broken nose..

Justice for Trayvon Martin
 
My response to the ABC SPD "no blood" video shown by my local station:


Does the on camera reporter accompanying the SPD video fancy himself Perry Mason, in his questioning of the Zimmerman lawyer?
Gotcha!!???


Did you mention the police report that says he was treated at the scene of the shooting by the SFD “Rescue 38” and cleared for transport before that video was made, once they reached the station , with Zimmerman disarmed, and detained and in handcuffs, --—meaning, his previously observed wounds were cleaned and the bleeding stanched by SFD paramedics?
Why not?
Doesn’t that answer your question, “Where is the blood, if he was beaten and injured?”
How many times did Zimmerman have to let the taller, younger, stronger man, with a longer reach, punch him, before he was allowed to make him stop? Is there a reason that the US military recruits strong 17 year olds to train as killers?
Should Zimmerman have waited until his skull was fractured?

Here (below)is part of the original SPD report—or don’t the facts fit your agenda?
It states clearly "I could observe that his back was wet, and was covered in grass, as if he had been lying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head....(he was)placed in the rear of my police vehicle and given first aid by the SFD. Once Zimmerman was cleared by the SFD, he was transported to the Sanford Police Department."

Also, I haven’t seen you yet report that the one eyewitness to the events before the gunshot said that Zimmerman was on the ground and Martin was on top of him “beating him up”.
That is the essence of the self-defense claim, and the reason why the State’s Attorney had him released without charges.
Why do you leave that part of the story out?
The same reason you continue to show five year old pictures of an innocent-looking and younger babyfaced Martin?
Why not show the 6’+ tall 160# muscled football player, with the tattoos and gold grills on his teeth, who’d been suspended from school three times this school year—a new school that he was attending this year, his having been kicked out of Miramar HS the previous year for drugs? How does a 17 year old high school boy afford colorful tattoos and gold teeth anyway? Selling jewelry like that that was seized from him when he got suspended from school for vandalism caught on surveillance camera?

You know, ABC-TV is not the only source of info about this tragedy—and that being the case, your bias is showing.
We wonder why?
Is your goal to manipulate the socalled “news” to create racial tensions?





Interesting video from the 27th(February) right after this happened.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/sem....

Quote:
The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, 'Help! Help!'(note—that would be Zimmerman) and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911," said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.
John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
"And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy(note—that would be Martin), was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."


Quote:
Zimmerman had a damp shirt, grass stains, a bloody nose and was bleeding from a wound in back of his head, according to police reports.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/15/26....]


Wait, TM was KICKED out of last high school? As a schoolteacher in Florida, I know exactly how many suspensions that entails.
 
Here's what sticks out for me in this police report...

page 3
According to the police report, Trayvon was face down, hands underneath his body, no pulse...the police turned him over and attemped resusitation efforts...pronounced dead at 1930 hours...by paramedic Brady..


page7

Z shot the suspect and was still armed..LE removed gun from the inside of waistband, removed the kel tek 9mm PF9 semi automatic handgun and holster.While I was in close contact with Z, I noticed his back appeared to be wet and covered in grass as if he'd been lying on his back on the ground. Z was also bleeding from his nose and the back of his head...

Z was placed in the back of my police vehicle and given first aid by SFD..While SFD was attending to Z I overheard him state "I was yelling for someone to help me but no one helped me". At no point did I question Z about the incident that had taken place. Once Z was cleared by SFD, he was transported to the SPD...

http://cnninsession.files.wordpress....olicreport.pdf


Since Trayvon was found with his hands underneath his body, that would mean to me, that he was not in a defensive position. It appears he died right as the bullet struck him..and GZ was straddled on his back with his hands in his back..he didn't even try to render aid..I believe he meant to murder this unarmed teen..

GZ words will get him arrested...besides the alleged racial slur, he during that call stated, these *******s always get away...Trayvon was not going to get away...

GZ was treated at the scene and released, so his 'injuries' did not require being in the hospital...but now it's turned into a broken nose and needed stitches in the back of his head..I say hogwash..dude is just trying to make it appear, Trayvon was the agressor..He should have stayed in his vehicle and not persue Trayvon...I am very happy the Mayor of Sanford released that video..it's clear he did not have a broken nose..

Justice for Trayvon Martin
Trayvon was shot in the chest, not the back. He was on top of GZ according to eyewitness accounts.
 
Good morning people...been gone awhile, since I lost my password and my login name...silly me...I've forgotten since I took a long hiatus...

I didn't read all the way back on this thread but I stumbled upon ACooper and his listening to the tape GZ made with that possible racial slur..It appears to me, he did say what is being said...


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-isola...rtin-911-call/

Scroll down to the video...It does appear to sound like he did say ******ing C**ns...if this is what the FBI/ACory hears, GZ should be arrested and hate crime will be attached...

I will be extremely important if this is what is determined to be stated during GZ's call...then the Feds become involved with a hate crime attached...I believe he should and will be arrested if ACory determines that is exactly what he said..

Justice for Trayvon Martin

Good to see you again btw
 
Wait, TM was KICKED out of last high school? As a schoolteacher in Florida, I know exactly how many suspensions that entails.

here we go again That if even true has nothing to do with the events of 2/26/2012 nothing
 
I had no idea Trayvon Martin was kicked out of his previous high school (miramar) last year for drugs.

did he transfer to another school?
 
Brother: Medical records will prove George Zimmerman's story
KSBW.com
updated 13 minutes ago 2012-03-30T12:16:33

George Zimmerman's brother said medical records will prove that his brother was attacked and his nose was broken by Trayvon Martin before he fatally shot the teen.

Robert Zimmerman Jr. spoke to CNN's Piers Morgan Thursday night saying he wanted to correct some of the "mythology" and untruths that have been spread about the controversial shooting.

"We're confident the medical records are going to explain all of George's medical history," Zimmerman Jr. said. "His nose looks swollen in that video. I'm his brother."




http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46903135

I wouldn't trust this ploy as far as I could spit...

Who's to say, he didn't have someone else punch him in his nose just to make it appear that he was assaulted...he certainly didn't appear to have a broken nose while the police were taking him in to question him...and there is at least one detective who didn't believe his story but was shot down for an arrest on manslaughter from the SA Wolfsin (not sure of the last name)...I also hope that wasn't a missed opportunity...

Justice for Trayvon Martin
 
yet, GZ past has everything to do with what happened on 2/26/12.

yes because he has shown a propensity for aggressive violent behavior in the past and the RUMOR about Trayvon isn't proven to be fact
 
Trayvon was shot in the chest, not the back. He was on top of GZ according to eyewitness accounts.

Yes I know that, I'll bet a shot right to the heart....I didn't state he was shot in the back...he fell on his face, hands underneath his body (while GZ was straddling him with his hands in the back of Trayvon) that doesn't suggest TM was in a defensive position..or his arms might have been at his sides..

Yes, that has been said too...That TM and GZ were tusseling for a minute..but who's to say, that child wasn't already deceased and GZ was setting that up..I don't trust a thing GZ states...especially when I heard the detective wanted him arrested on manslaughter charges because he didn't believe GZ..that says alot too..

Justice for Trayvon Martin
 
My response to the ABC SPD "no blood" video shown by my local station:


Does the on camera reporter accompanying the SPD video fancy himself Perry Mason, in his questioning of the Zimmerman lawyer?
Gotcha!!???


Did you mention the police report that says he was treated at the scene of the shooting by the SFD “Rescue 38” and cleared for transport before that video was made, once they reached the station , with Zimmerman disarmed, and detained and in handcuffs, --—meaning, his previously observed wounds were cleaned and the bleeding stanched by SFD paramedics?
Why not?
Doesn’t that answer your question, “Where is the blood, if he was beaten and injured?”
How many times did Zimmerman have to let the taller, younger, stronger man, with a longer reach, punch him, before he was allowed to make him stop? Is there a reason that the US military recruits strong 17 year olds to train as killers?
Should Zimmerman have waited until his skull was fractured?

Here (below)is part of the original SPD report—or don’t the facts fit your agenda?
It states clearly "I could observe that his back was wet, and was covered in grass, as if he had been lying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head....(he was)placed in the rear of my police vehicle and given first aid by the SFD. Once Zimmerman was cleared by the SFD, he was transported to the Sanford Police Department."

Also, I haven’t seen you yet report that the one eyewitness to the events before the gunshot said that Zimmerman was on the ground and Martin was on top of him “beating him up”.
That is the essence of the self-defense claim, and the reason why the State’s Attorney had him released without charges.
Why do you leave that part of the story out?
The same reason you continue to show five year old pictures of an innocent-looking and younger babyfaced Martin?
Why not show the 6’+ tall 160# muscled football player, with the tattoos and gold grills on his teeth, who’d been suspended from school three times this school year—a new school that he was attending this year, his having been kicked out of Miramar HS the previous year for drugs? How does a 17 year old high school boy afford colorful tattoos and gold teeth anyway? Selling jewelry like that that was seized from him when he got suspended from school for vandalism caught on surveillance camera?

You know, ABC-TV is not the only source of info about this tragedy—and that being the case, your bias is showing.
We wonder why?
Is your goal to manipulate the socalled “news” to create racial tensions?





Interesting video from the 27th(February) right after this happened.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/sem....

Quote:
The guy on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, 'Help! Help!'(note—that would be Zimmerman) and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911," said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.
John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
"And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the guy who was on the top beating up the other guy(note—that would be Martin), was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."


Quote:
Zimmerman had a damp shirt, grass stains, a bloody nose and was bleeding from a wound in back of his head, according to police reports.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/15/26....]

So Zimmerman, was treated at the scene for a bloody head and nose. Did the EMT have a washing machine w/Tide in the back of the ambulance as well??? Because he should of had blood on his shirt, or back of jacket if he was so "bloody." Not even any bandages whatsoever, tried blood, swollen face something that showed he was in a scuffle from such a large, powerful teen???<heavy sarcasm>

True Martin was 6'3, but don't make him sound like he had a TO body, this was a skinny kid, noticed by ALL the pictures. To suggest he pinned a much heavier, stronger Zimmerman to the ground is insulting to our intelligence.

Martin's dealing with drugs/jewelry is irrelevant here, Zimmerman was not in knowledge of this, and he does not mention Martin is "looking into windows" with a screwdriver in his hand.

There are also witnesses who say that Zimmerman was on top. And we also have witnesses stating police tried to make them change their testimoney.

If i have a gun... why am i screaming for help???

Its funny, Zimmerman want's us to ignore... "Trayvon looking suspicious" without actually going into detail on how he looks suspicious. He wants us to ignore him not listening to the dispatcher. Ignore the slur, that his own brother acknowledges hearing. He wants us to ignore, him following Trayvon, for no good reason, while armed with a pistol. But he wants us to believe... that after losing Martin, he's outside his vehicle looking for street names of the complex he knows like the back of his hand, Marting comes flying in from the sky, attacking him for no reason whatsoever. Sorry doesn't pass the smell test at all.

Zimmerman has a KNOWN history of attacking a police officer, restraining order against his ex, and now throwing a woman around at a party, and now's he's chasing a kid around with a gun. To me, his background, especially when given the circumstances of that night, lead me to believe he was the aggressor... not Martin. Answer me this... if he stays in his car, is Trayvon alive???
 
yes because he has shown a propensity for aggressive violent behavior in the past and the RUMOR about Trayvon isn't proven to be fact

It's no rumor that he was suspended out of school suspension 3 times this year. This was no "nice" kid. GZ was not a "nice guy" either.
 
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