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Dr Phil could of read and had on hand a copy of each doctor's psych report on her...
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Dr Phil could of read and had on hand a copy of each doctor's psych report on her...
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Yes he could have ~ and he could have spoken with some creditable authority on the subject, given his experience. But he chose not to challenge his "guest" to that extent. He did the same with Cindy and George ~ refusing to ask the hard questions, backed up by fact and prior statements. He had trouble asking the "right" questions that we would love to hear answered but had no trouble finding an immoral vehicle by which to pay them for their appearance on his show.
I believe he did the same for this dishonorable attorney. All Dr Phil has managed to do is fill his own pockets and the pockets of those who have taken advantage of Caylee's death, as well. They are all only interested in their own gain.
I keep thinking that I will, at some point, become numb to the insult of all of these peoples' actions . . .
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I took my daughter when she was 13 because of very heavy periods (waking up in pools of blood and going through more than 1 pad an hour). They told me they wouldn't see her until she was 15 unless she was pg! However, my ob/gyn made an exception because I have severe endometriosis which can be hereditary. It caused fertility problems with me, and I didn't want the same for my daughter.
That is the ONLY reason I took her to an OB/Gyn at that age. She has never had a pap or an internal exam (though she is 18 so prob will this year) even though she has been on birth control to lighten her periods. She was terrified of having an internal exam so my MD did an ultrasound instead since it was unlikely she had cervical caner at 13. She didn't want to traumatize her.
I wouldn't have taken her if it weren't for my own disorder. I wouldn't have taken her simply for irregular periods. That's pretty common in adolescence.
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I have always been a huge Dr. Phil fan. DVRd his shows quite a bit. I was okay with his interviews with GA and CA because I truly believe they lied to themselves. As time has passed, I am feeling less sympathetic towards them. Since I'm pretty sure they took the money DP donated to their charity and paid themselves and gave it to Casey, I haven't been able to stand them, or Dr. Phil. If DP would just look and see where the money has gone and be honest and say, "hey, I think I got screwed" I could go back to watching him. For now, I'm on a boycott.
I knew I would not be able to tolerate watching him interview JB, but it's nice to hear it wasn't a soft interview. Makes me feel a lot better. I feel betrayed by Dr. Phil!
I knew I would not be able to tolerate watching him interview JB, but it's nice to hear it wasn't a soft interview. Makes me feel a lot better. I feel betrayed by Dr. Phil!
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Seems to me Jose tried to emphasize PTSD syndrome in FCA and DP pointed out that he had no clue as to what PTSD symptoms are. JB is inept as an attorney and will be forever remembered for being so. You can put the Pinellas 12 and certain members of the Ant's in the same bag. They ignored the facts and chose to make their conclusions on anything but. I hope not one of them has a moments peace every time they look at a child. A child that could have been Caylee living her life.
DP:
So what really did happen to two year old Caylee Anthony? Was she actually missing for 31 days and how did she die? Did her mother Casey tell attorney Jose Baez the truth our was it just another of her elaborate lies?
(pre-recorded video if jb is shown. It was heavily edited. You could tell by how it had many sudden stops and starts. My opinion is that he wanted to be careful of how he worded his response.)
JB:
When Casey finally opened up to me about Caylee drowning, it was a day I had been bracing her for for many weeks. She was in a highly emotional state. Tears fell like raindrops. It wasn't a Casey I had seen before. Casey told me that after being awoken by her father that they searched throughout the house and they couldn't find her. Now when she came back around she saw George holding Caylee and Caylee was dripping wet from having been in the pool. Caylee was never missing, and threats the biggest misconception of this case. Caylee died on june 16th, 2008 when she drowned in the family swimming pool.
DP:
Well Jose Baez recently released a book, "Presumed Guilty, Casey Anthony the Inside Story" and we're talking about some of the revelations that he shares in this book. Now she comes to you and tells you that he wakes her up and Caylee is dripping wet. She drowned in the pool and at that point this is an accidental drowning. Negligence? I mean
JB:
Possibly
DP:
The lager was down. She got in the pool. Do you believe that's what happened?
JB:
I do, but you know, what I belief is couldn't be more, couldn't be more irrelevant than anything and I say that because we may never know what ended up happening, but I think it's easier, based on the evidenced, to conclude that she drowned vs some ridiculous chloroform, duct tape theory that the prosecution came up with.
DP:
How did this child end up in the woods?
JB:
Well, that, Casey had said that George said he would take care of it, and there are a lot of facts in this case that disturb me greatly and that one is probably the most disturbing fact of it all.
DP:
When I talked to George he had a different theory about what happened to Caylee. We'll take a look at what he said.
(the video of George on the dp show dating he thought maybe she was accident over dosed is played)
DP:
You'd never heard him say that before.
JB:
Never, never, and all of it is just guesting. There was never any evidence of any of that, in fact there was evidence disproving it. The toxicological exams of Caylee all came back negative for any type of drugs. There were never any chloroform found anywhere. It, it, it was, it was complete and total nonsense. (he did repeat the it was they many times. It it's not a typo)
Commercial break
So what really did happen to two year old Caylee Anthony? Was she actually missing for 31 days and how did she die? Did her mother Casey tell attorney Jose Baez the truth our was it just another of her elaborate lies?
(pre-recorded video if jb is shown. It was heavily edited. You could tell by how it had many sudden stops and starts. My opinion is that he wanted to be careful of how he worded his response.)
JB:
When Casey finally opened up to me about Caylee drowning, it was a day I had been bracing her for for many weeks. She was in a highly emotional state. Tears fell like raindrops. It wasn't a Casey I had seen before. Casey told me that after being awoken by her father that they searched throughout the house and they couldn't find her. Now when she came back around she saw George holding Caylee and Caylee was dripping wet from having been in the pool. Caylee was never missing, and threats the biggest misconception of this case. Caylee died on june 16th, 2008 when she drowned in the family swimming pool.
DP:
Well Jose Baez recently released a book, "Presumed Guilty, Casey Anthony the Inside Story" and we're talking about some of the revelations that he shares in this book. Now she comes to you and tells you that he wakes her up and Caylee is dripping wet. She drowned in the pool and at that point this is an accidental drowning. Negligence? I mean
JB:
Possibly
DP:
The lager was down. She got in the pool. Do you believe that's what happened?
JB:
I do, but you know, what I belief is couldn't be more, couldn't be more irrelevant than anything and I say that because we may never know what ended up happening, but I think it's easier, based on the evidenced, to conclude that she drowned vs some ridiculous chloroform, duct tape theory that the prosecution came up with.
DP:
How did this child end up in the woods?
JB:
Well, that, Casey had said that George said he would take care of it, and there are a lot of facts in this case that disturb me greatly and that one is probably the most disturbing fact of it all.
DP:
When I talked to George he had a different theory about what happened to Caylee. We'll take a look at what he said.
(the video of George on the dp show dating he thought maybe she was accident over dosed is played)
DP:
You'd never heard him say that before.
JB:
Never, never, and all of it is just guesting. There was never any evidence of any of that, in fact there was evidence disproving it. The toxicological exams of Caylee all came back negative for any type of drugs. There were never any chloroform found anywhere. It, it, it was, it was complete and total nonsense. (he did repeat the it was they many times. It it's not a typo)
Commercial break
BBM: Yup, he's an ambulance chaser now (can I call him that)?
Famed Attorney Jose Baez Representing Family Of Chef Killed In Hit & Run
Video at source:
http://miami.cbslocal.com/video/835...chef-killed-in-hit-run/#.URqv80E9v8U.facebook
DP:
What does show in the timeline that you presented is that George was there, didnt kill the child, but was there, and covered it up for whatever reason, rather than calling 911. Isn't that a stretch? Why wouldn't someone just call 911? I mean, accidental drownings of children, as tragic as they are, aren't uncommon.
JB:
Well, in my book I lay out several scenarios of what possibly happened, and again I want to qualify everything I say because I wasn't there. No one was there. There really are two people that know the answer to this, our one. Who knows? What I said in my opening statement was this was a very common accident that happened to an uncommon group of people. I spent many, many hours with that family, and I just felt, in my opinion, that something wasn't right.
DP:
People were taking about the fact that she went to rent a movie, that she was in the hit body contest, that she was out doing things, when we now know that the child had deceased and you said that this flowed from her PTSD.
JB:
I think this, and I don't know what you call it, but I noticed that Casey had the unique ability to hide her pain like no one I had ever seen. I would go and visit her in jail, where she was on lockdown, because if her status, 23 hours
What does show in the timeline that you presented is that George was there, didnt kill the child, but was there, and covered it up for whatever reason, rather than calling 911. Isn't that a stretch? Why wouldn't someone just call 911? I mean, accidental drownings of children, as tragic as they are, aren't uncommon.
JB:
Well, in my book I lay out several scenarios of what possibly happened, and again I want to qualify everything I say because I wasn't there. No one was there. There really are two people that know the answer to this, our one. Who knows? What I said in my opening statement was this was a very common accident that happened to an uncommon group of people. I spent many, many hours with that family, and I just felt, in my opinion, that something wasn't right.
DP:
People were taking about the fact that she went to rent a movie, that she was in the hit body contest, that she was out doing things, when we now know that the child had deceased and you said that this flowed from her PTSD.
JB:
I think this, and I don't know what you call it, but I noticed that Casey had the unique ability to hide her pain like no one I had ever seen. I would go and visit her in jail, where she was on lockdown, because if her status, 23 hours
JB:
I think this, and I don't know what you call it, but I noticed that Casey had the unique ability to hide her pain like no one I had ever seen. I would hi and visit her in jail, where she was on lockdown, because of her status, 23 hours a day in a 4 X 6 cell and the girl was happy like she was at a picnic. That again, from what I was being told by the mental health professionals compartmentalization is another symptom of someone who's been abused. You hide it. You don't , you dont face your pain. You hide it and pretended it doesn't exist, and if that's something shred doing all her life, I can see, and it makes a lot, it makes logical sense, that if a tragedy happens, that the person can hide that too.
I think this, and I don't know what you call it, but I noticed that Casey had the unique ability to hide her pain like no one I had ever seen. I would hi and visit her in jail, where she was on lockdown, because of her status, 23 hours a day in a 4 X 6 cell and the girl was happy like she was at a picnic. That again, from what I was being told by the mental health professionals compartmentalization is another symptom of someone who's been abused. You hide it. You don't , you dont face your pain. You hide it and pretended it doesn't exist, and if that's something shred doing all her life, I can see, and it makes a lot, it makes logical sense, that if a tragedy happens, that the person can hide that too.
DP:
I have never seen such loose shred broad application of psychological disorders. I mean, you talked about PTSD with regard to her behaviors right after the death, did they rashly tell you that this was a sign of PTSD?
(at this point they start taking over each other. This lasts for the next 10 quotes, back and forth between them)
JB:
You know, I dont like I said
DP:
Because you talked about that.
JB:
I dont pretends to the
DP:
But you said somebody told you that
JB:
Right the mental health professionals
DP:
They told you it was a sign of PTSD?
JB:
Yes yes
DP:
Do you know what ptsd is?
JB:
Yes, well I know the general application but not
DP:
Well I made a graphic so we can look at it.
(audience laughter, Jose squirming)
(graphic follows)
Ptsd definition
*anxiety disorder after traumatic experiences
*feel self/others in danger; no control
*recurring fear, anger, confusion-relive events
*string emotion/create brain change
*longer than 4 weeks
DP:
It's anxiety disorders after a traumatic experience. You feel others are in danger. You have recurring fear, anxiety, confusion, strong emotions. Your brain changes and it lasts for weeks at a time. This is nothing to do with like going out and acting like nothing happened. Quite the contrary. You relive a traumatic event and you have string, debilitating anxiety and paralysis and a reliving of events.
I have never seen such loose shred broad application of psychological disorders. I mean, you talked about PTSD with regard to her behaviors right after the death, did they rashly tell you that this was a sign of PTSD?
(at this point they start taking over each other. This lasts for the next 10 quotes, back and forth between them)
JB:
You know, I dont like I said
DP:
Because you talked about that.
JB:
I dont pretends to the
DP:
But you said somebody told you that
JB:
Right the mental health professionals
DP:
They told you it was a sign of PTSD?
JB:
Yes yes
DP:
Do you know what ptsd is?
JB:
Yes, well I know the general application but not
DP:
Well I made a graphic so we can look at it.
(audience laughter, Jose squirming)
(graphic follows)
Ptsd definition
*anxiety disorder after traumatic experiences
*feel self/others in danger; no control
*recurring fear, anger, confusion-relive events
*string emotion/create brain change
*longer than 4 weeks
DP:
It's anxiety disorders after a traumatic experience. You feel others are in danger. You have recurring fear, anxiety, confusion, strong emotions. Your brain changes and it lasts for weeks at a time. This is nothing to do with like going out and acting like nothing happened. Quite the contrary. You relive a traumatic event and you have string, debilitating anxiety and paralysis and a reliving of events.
JB:
But let me tell you, let me put it to you this way. You're different than I am. I'm different than you are. Every single person is different. I I I I kinda, I'm, one of the problems I've always had with a lot of mental health professionals is you try and cookie cut every single person into behaving a specific way. Granted, they are generalalities and there are things that a lit of people, categories that a lot of people fall into, but what do you do with that one person who's different?
DP:
A broken leg's a broken leg. You say you're different and I'm different, but you get an xray a broken leg's a broken leg. It's not like, hey, we're all different.
JB:
So let's get to the key issue here. Is there a murder or isn't there, and I can tell you, based on the fact s, and this isn't just me saying it , I didn't go off and pay a jury off with a suitcase of money. They sat there and listened to every single piece of evidence, saw
But let me tell you, let me put it to you this way. You're different than I am. I'm different than you are. Every single person is different. I I I I kinda, I'm, one of the problems I've always had with a lot of mental health professionals is you try and cookie cut every single person into behaving a specific way. Granted, they are generalalities and there are things that a lit of people, categories that a lot of people fall into, but what do you do with that one person who's different?
DP:
A broken leg's a broken leg. You say you're different and I'm different, but you get an xray a broken leg's a broken leg. It's not like, hey, we're all different.
JB:
So let's get to the key issue here. Is there a murder or isn't there, and I can tell you, based on the fact s, and this isn't just me saying it , I didn't go off and pay a jury off with a suitcase of money. They sat there and listened to every single piece of evidence, saw
They sat there and listened to every single.piece of evidence, saw the witnesses in person, not on tv, not on the news, our hearing the sound bites, and they came to a specific conclusion.
DP:
But they didnt listen to the evidence. There was no evidence that George molested her, which was a prong of the defense. There was no evidence if that. You just told a story.
JB:
(getting louder and obviously irritated) A burden that didnt have to be proven and theres not one single juror that's come forward and said I found her not guilty because she was sexually abused. You have no you can't conclude, not even for a second, that they used that as opposed to the evidence that was actually presented at trial to determine, to make a determination, in fact, your taking a leap by saying they went out and heard, they went out and made the decisions contrary to what the judge and what the law told them what they should base their decision on, when you really have no basis to do so.
DP:
Coming up, his first ever television interview. I'm gonna talk to a prosecution witness. We'll be right back.
DP:
But they didnt listen to the evidence. There was no evidence that George molested her, which was a prong of the defense. There was no evidence if that. You just told a story.
JB:
(getting louder and obviously irritated) A burden that didnt have to be proven and theres not one single juror that's come forward and said I found her not guilty because she was sexually abused. You have no you can't conclude, not even for a second, that they used that as opposed to the evidence that was actually presented at trial to determine, to make a determination, in fact, your taking a leap by saying they went out and heard, they went out and made the decisions contrary to what the judge and what the law told them what they should base their decision on, when you really have no basis to do so.
DP:
Coming up, his first ever television interview. I'm gonna talk to a prosecution witness. We'll be right back.
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FLmom! What a wonderful job of transcription! You are fantastic!
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My guess is he was paid "licensing fees for photos" of the book - but jb didn't do it for free.
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:seeya: Yes ... THANKS for the transcription !!!
There is NO WAY I could watch and listen to JB and DP's bull **** !
I see it was the "same old same old" bull from JB and nothing as usual from DP !
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:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: Once again, the stories seem to be about baez and not the victim. Funny how the headlines mention him, isn't it? Why is it that I bet he called the 'evil media' himself? Coincidence that this story is being picked up with him mentioned in each headline?
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...of-victim-in-miami-beach-party-princess-case/
Hypocriticacy strikes again.
To the family of Stefano Riccioletti ----> please get a lawyer who will make this about Stefano and not himself. JMHO.
Art is simply my opinion.
Can I add - that if this was any other non publicity seeking attorney, this would not be a news story. Or if it was, it would read: "Family of Stefano Riccioletti files civil lawsuit for wrongful death." <------- and the attorney's name would be mentioned AFTER the victim's name.
Im currently waiting for him to represent someone from the carnival cruise line
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I missed the show, but completely agree with you here. Why else would fca have thrown the gas cans and sworn at GA instead of letting him come over near the trunk of her car to get them? She didn't want him anywhere near the trunk!
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I think this is exactly how it went down, and is why I get so irritated with people who jumped on the 'abuse/drowning' bandwagon. They made the defense fit the evidence. Had they told this story from the very beginning, before all the evidence was disclosed, I may have considered it, but given the timing of it all ... no way.
As far as the discussions about not visiting a GYN until the age of 19 .. on my last visit to the GYN, I asked her when I should bring my 16 yr old in for an exam and she said not anytime soon .. as long as she's not sexually active, she doesn't need to be seen because she receives annual physicals by the family doc. Not seeing a gyn as evidence of sexual abuse is absolutely ridiculous.