2008.12.18 - PI James H. Interview

[NoNameLeft]

No, I don't think the Milsteads filed for bankruptcy. If they did file, then the mile long list of judgments against them would have been expunged. Their court dockets are the same, long and disturbing.

You must be right. Just looked all over to find the site where I read that, but couldn't find it. So I probably mixed things up.

 

[sunflowerchick]

I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but when I was reading through this today, something stuck out at me...

In the interview, he says at the location where the pavers were found, where they thought the "gravesite" was, there was "a bush that kind of like curled over, or kind of like run over".

Was there evidence at the scene that someone had pulled a vehicle in there at some point near where the remains were found? I just found this to be interesting. If tire tracks or any kind of vehicle marks were in that area, LE could certainly trace the vehicle that those came from.

 

[babycat]

If it wasn't for Hoover, nobody would know the real reason Dominic was searching the woods on Suburban. It sure wasn't to verify that it was once Casey's teenage hangout. Hoover seemed to be always a step ahead of DC and didn't miss much when he observed C & G.
He could have told LE the same story he told Dominic - that he had taped over the search video, but he didn't. He took it to them.

I understand what you're saying, but for all I know, he could have just wanted money for an interview, or notoriety. I just don't know if I trust his motives. I think it's okay for me to feel that way

 

[cajun]

I think the reason she was upset this day at LE was because of the way they tore the house apart. Remember this was the next day after Caylees remains were found, so emotions were running very high.

Nah, she is pissed off about LE arresting Casey and has been since she first went to jail.

 

[azwriter]

page 3950, JH tells LE that "Cindy is a very touchy-feely type of person"...I think I am going to be sick.

Yeah, especially when she has a baseball bat or hammer in her hands.
jmo

 

[Reality Orlando]

Someone who is in incredible pain.

I agree with you. I think this is a woman whose whole world was crashing around her. She was teetering on the verge of bankruptcy due to her husband's gambling...she's lost the granddaughter she obviously adored and her daughter is in prison, charged with the child's murder. Who amongst us wouldn't be totally frustrated and distraught beyond measure? I can certainly see her losing it like that. I have to wonder at anyone who can't empathize with this family...the pain of loss has to be overwhelming.

 

[evergreen]

Someone who is in incredible pain.

is the incredible pain making her cozy up to Dominick?

 

[Reality Orlando]

Perhaps under other circumstances she would have. Not that I expect anyone to have any sympathy or understanding for Cindy, but if you try to imagine what it might be like to just learn that your granddaughter's remains have been found, that your daughter most likely is the killer, not being able to return to your own home, and then when you finally do you find that LE has torn it apart......you're filled with huge amounts of anger, stress, grief, denial, and just want things to be normal again...you just might release some of that emotion on something a stranger left that symbolize everything you want to deny.

Again, I agree. I don't think we can judge anyone in this type of emotional turmoil. I've worked with folks dealing with grief...especially in the beginning the pain is so totally overwhelming that it often supercedes all else and manifests in different ways with different people. Some get depressed, some angry, many feel they are at fault, others simply deny...for a very long time. Unless you've walked in her shoes, it really isn't fair to judge Cindy or her family. JMO.

 

[MAMABEAR]

I agree with you. I think this is a woman whose whole world was crashing around her. She was teetering on the verge of bankruptcy due to her husband's gambling...she's lost the granddaughter she obviously adored and her daughter is in prison, charged with the child's murder. Who amongst us wouldn't be totally frustrated and distraught beyond measure? I can certainly see her losing it like that. I have to wonder at anyone who can't empathize with this family...the pain of loss has to be overwhelming.

I just have to say this. Now, I'm not being tacky----is just the way I feel.
Many times over this drama (couldn't think of a better word) I have really felt sorry for them and every time I have ever "empthized" with the Ants then they go and ruin it.

Like the cover up of the decay smell. Sorry but that was a biggy for me. Just to make a long story shorter-----lie after lie. Held out for LA a long time, because he was not on TV making an Azz out of himself. But after that depo-----Hey---it's over with me. God will take care of this. I have to worry about my own soul.

 

[babycat]

I'm just sayin'...just because JH is saying stuff I want to hear, doesn't necessarily make me believe it's true. I happen to find him questionable I'm sure many people won't agree with me. I hope he IS telling the truth. And I hope he is doing it for the right reasons. Am I positive he is? Not at all. But, to each his own.

 

[Reality Orlando]

That's why I said I wonder and it was in a form of a question.I wonder where Caylee was when Cindy/Casey had that last fight before she was killed? In my opinion I would said Caylee saw those angry faces a lot.

In every picture/video I've ever seen of Caylee (except for the one with Lee and the way Lee is laughing, I think he was teasing her) she appeared to be a very happy, well adjusted child. I never once saw her flinch, cower or pull away from anyone (again, except that one pic). Obviously, her family spent a lot of time with her as she seemed well educated for a child that age. Also, note how many photos and videos there were of her! She was atuned to her family's well being (as seen when she showed concern for her great grandfather) and the videos released today of her and Casey showed a great deal of love and happiness. Something went tradgically wrong, but I don't think you can say that this child was exposed to a violent life. Children with that much of an outgoing, happy personality, don't get that way by being exposed to violent, unhappy people on a daily basis. JMO.

 

[azwriter]

Cindy attacking a cross with a baseball bat does not surprise me. I see clip after clip or her and George confronting people in the front of their home with hammers, water hoses and bats. I found this worse than someone beating a cross with a bat.
Usually George charges the people and Cindy reaches out and pulls him back and he stays like a puppy. It's almost comic to see her pull him around.
These people have no self-control and absolutely no class. Where else have we seen family relatives of a victim going after people protesting?
Why couldn't George and Cindy just stayed in the home, pulled the shades or drapes and ignored those out front.
Without a confrontation, in time these protestors would have gone away if they didn't get a reaction from Cindy and George.
Instead the Anthony's struck out in anger and frustration becoming part of the shameless scene.
There is something seriously wrong with this couple. They have lied, acted out and never did anything to help find their granddaughter.
There is something wrong and they are hiding something that causes them to react so quickly and vilolently.
jmo

 

[Reality Orlando]

If my grandchild was missing, then found dead and deep in my heart I was terrfied that my daughter may have done it, I could very easily see myself cursing LE, God anybody, everybody...whoevers name popped into my brain. And I know, why wouldn't I curse out my daughter? Probably because she is the last person I would find myself able to think about. What mother would want to?

ITA. I adore my daughter and I could never believe she would do something like this...even if all the evidence in the world pointed to her. I can see that anyone who truly loves their child would/could react in a similiar fashion.

 

[webhound]

I think the reason she was upset this day at LE was because of the way they tore the house apart. Remember this was the next day after Caylees remains were found, so emotions were running very high.

I've always been a little bothered by the "tearing the house apart" complaints by the Anthony's. I seriously doubt that LE went in and ransacked the joint. leaving rubble and complete disarray in their wake.

Remember their first complaints were after the first search. If there was a baby missing from my house the least of my worries and concerns would be the condition in which LE left my house after they searched it for any clues to the child's whereabouts. I'd tell them to come back as many times as necessary...just please find the baby!

 

[Friday]

Regarding Cindy's rampage with the bat, I originally assumed she was infuriated at LE, and cursing at Allen, Beary, etc., because LE had once again torn her house apart--and that was (understandably) just the "straw that broke the camels back."

BUT, SHE WASN'T only cursing LE members as she swung the bat, she was ALSO cursing Baez, Padilla --people who had simply opposed or interfered with her! To me, this is very significant and reveals a particularly nasty side of her temperament.

 

[ROBLYN]

Lots of good stuff in the JH doc but best of all is CA beating the HELL out of the cross left on their sidewalk..She was F'ing only the names of LE & LP while doing it..Not KC natch! LE made a BIG deal about the names..They've known all along CA hates their GUTS but what does this do for their case? Confused!

She wanted the remains (damn it!) & she was gonna get them to cremate & keep them forever..I know now for sure she has them! But where?

I'm kinda torn over the JB/KC "licorice" story told by DC..It does seem kinda out there to me even tho I know there's something going ON between them that ain't kosher for an atty/client.

ETA! LA pulled over to CRY his eyes out after the fingerprinting & thought they were gonna make him get a mug shot too..He was scared s''t less but what reason would there be for his arrest in his mind?

Hi amy'smom, GREAT summary of the highlights. thanks

 

[ROBLYN]

Just take him with a grain of salt. He obviously has something to gain by making the A's out as bad as possible, he admitted to taking pictures of them without their knowledge to make money.

Hi ohiogirl,

That is good advice regarding all of these characters. The only thing that i would say about the money, is at least he was honest when swearing to it. They are ALL out to make a buck off of the murder of an innocent baby. That does make him a scum imo, but look who the A's have sounded themselves with for the past 8 months...

What bothers me more about his interview is the FACT that he had this kind of information, and did not find the need to tell the police.

I do appreciate the laughter he gave us today, Really needed it.

 

[webhound]

In every picture/video I've ever seen of Caylee (except for the one with Lee and the way Lee is laughing, I think he was teasing her) she appeared to be a very happy, well adjusted child. I never once saw her flinch, cower or pull away from anyone (again, except that one pic). Obviously, her family spent a lot of time with her as she seemed well educated for a child that age. Also, note how many photos and videos there were of her! She was atuned to her family's well being (as seen when she showed concern for her great grandfather) and the videos released today of her and Casey showed a great deal of love and happiness. Something went tradgically wrong, but I don't think you can say that this child was exposed to a violent life. Children with that much of an outgoing, happy personality, don't get that way by being exposed to violent, unhappy people on a daily basis. JMO.

I respectfully disagree with part of this (bold by me). IMO Caylee was doted on by her grandparents. But I believe this child was a witness to violent outbursts by the members of this family. We have seen plenty ourselves. CA herself is on record stating that Casey screams at George as much as she does. We have also seen the extreme disrespect Casey shows her parents (jail video).

To me, screaming, fighting, slamming, disrespectful words, etc., are not acceptable behavior in a family home. I truly believe Caylee saw this type of behavior on a regular basis. In time, a child raised in this environment will even join in.

One other thought... It is rare to video tape or take a picture of a child in the middle of a family dispute, when the child is distressed, unhappy, or frightened. I don't find it at all unusual that there is a smiling, happy Caylee in the pictures and tapes.

You have a very good point about Caylee's attention to the great grandfather on the Father's Day tape. I noticed her attention to him and concern for him from her as well. I still find it very touching and agree with you that this child must have been shown compassion to be able to express it. That part of the tape never fails to break my heart every time. I can hear her tiny voice in my head right now. She was such a sweet little child.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

ITA. I adore my daughter and I could never believe she would do something like this...even if all the evidence in the world pointed to her. I can see that anyone who truly loves their child would/could react in a similiar fashion.

Try to cover up the fact your daughter killed her daughter? You wouldn't care enough about your granddaughter to want justice for her?

Would you also have refused a lie-detector and refused to assist LE?

Would you have been selling your granddaughters pics and making a living out of her death? Would you have been dining at the Ritz on crab puffs while her remains were being collected?

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you did say "that anyone who truly loves their child would/could react in a similar fashion." I really don't agree...in fact I've never seen anyone act like this family before, ever.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

I've always been a little bothered by the "tearing the house apart" complaints by the Anthony's. I seriously doubt that LE went in and ransacked the joint. leaving rubble and complete disarray in their wake.

Remember their first complaints were after the first search. If there was a baby missing from my house the least of my worries and concerns would be the condition in which LE left my house after they searched it for any clues to the child's whereabouts. I'd tell them to come back as many times as necessary...just please find the baby!

ITA. If anything, I would think they should have been thanking them profusely for finding Caylee, and for putting in painstaking hours to ensure they recovered most of her remains. Instead, they treat them like the hired help.

I remember when they threatened to sue LE because they arrested Casey without making an appointment.