2010.04.22 NANCY GRACE:Flora Hollars and Annette Sykes Debate

[oceanwatch]

I thought I would be in a bad mood by the time NG ended tonight, but I am still laughing about Nanny Hollars signing off with telling them to kiss where the sun don't shine. And, that was priceless when Chelsea was trying to distance herself from Flo Hollars by refering to her as Ms Hollars, or Flo, then when Chelsea started speaking directly to her she called her "Nanny". lol!!!

 

[Beyond Belief]

Please clarify::::Washer was running when LE arrived................
I don't recall ever hearing that.......


Put the shirts on::::robably sweatshirts

 

[CarrieBean]

Here's the link but I think it's off now. It went off when Joy's show came on.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/TIMER55

I usually catch it later on youtube.

Thanks for the video links! Ustream kept freezing on me.

 

[Wendy101]

And what was the reason she did NOT pick them up or call CAS???

Chelsea said she knows for a fact there was loose pills laying around in that house.

 

[passionflower]

all I know is I cannot believe people could make all this up........some has to be true

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I have watched every video that I'm aware of since this case began. I have read every article that I'm aware of.

I've seen and read words that both chilled and repulsed me over the past 15 months, but NONE have ever come close to the statement tonight from Flora Hollars that Misty Croslin heard the terrified screams of a little 5 year old girl and did nothing but hide under the covers.

Whether that's true or not, I don't know but DAMN the television show that put those words in my ears without any type of verification whatsoever.

What kind of people are these anyway to sit around with these type statements being discussed and remain as calm and non emotional as if they were discussing the price of a sack of flour? I watched GGM's face for reaction and there was not a twitch. Words that would have surely DESTROYED me and her response was essentially "Waall, we've heered all kinds of thangs"!

I'm just about ready to EXPLODE!

I don't think she reacted to that because she knew just what happened.

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

I think my focus is more on what she reacted to and what she didn't react to. When that horrible story came out about Haleigh screaming, while Misty was laying in a bedroom, not responding, there was little reaction at all from GGM. No shock or horror on her face that I could see. On the other hand she needs to tell about how Misty helped carry the laundry, proof of her sobriety, to show she wasn't drugged that night. I should probably stop trying to figure these people out.

Good observation about Granny S's lack of reaction to that story.

I noticed Granny S doing a lot of blinking and lip-licking, like the body-language experts teach us to watch for (for deception) - but now I can't remember the specific topic she was blinking & licking about LOL. I gotta re-watch at 9:30.

jmo

 

[snowshuze]

Just bouncing off a couple opinions I have read so far....


GGMS would deny deny deny Misty being stoned to the gills to absolve herself of any responsibility leaving those kids there, no?

And Misty reported "bleach cleaning" in the 911 call.....I THINK to cover any DNA evidence on the bedding she was running through the wash....at 3 in the morning...


Moo and stuff because it would take me forever to find links.

 

[suspicious1]

AS used the 1st person collective "WE" drove over there. Again, NG does not ask who "WE" are.

IMO, GMS and TN are leaving out the aunt...the nurse....Why leave her out? because they KNOW how that would look to everyone...Nope, can't tell them about the aunt and her profession. JMO of course

 

[Dee10]

And she also claimed she took a blanket down from the window..
We know the story about the pee blanket was false, but we have never heard anymore about the blanket she had to wash that came from the window..JMO

It seems to me a blanket is missing or...was missing.:angel:

 

[Emeralgem]

FH asked GMS why TN didn't take the kids with her when Misty asked her to.
GMS said she wasn't aware Misty had asked Teresa to take the kids that night.

BBM Does this statement indicate that TN was at the MH that afternoon/evening and Misty asked her to take the kids with her...To my knowledge we have never heard TN was there that day..
Right now, I'm confused as to whether or not this conversation took place over the telephone or in person...JMO

 

[Whisperer]

Hollars is expressing all the different theories that are out there and her mind switches around which one she believes. She thinks one, two or three hurt Haliegh but she has no idea which one. She is not articulate enought to use the word theory from idea (or imagination) from what she believes happened. What she says is not something that some of us haven't thought or read about. She does not know the difference between what she thinks and what she feels...not uncommon, BTW.

 

[Black Water]

GMS - stopped by about 7:30 to drop of laundry. She always did children's laundry.
The were on porch eating, HaLeigh and Jr came out to GMS and gave her a hug.
Misty came out to help bring in laundry.
GMS got back in car and left.

LE gave a press conference and the dude said they were satisfied with Ron's account of where he was for the eight hours in question. I always wondered where they got eight hours, must be the 7:30pm time Skyes saw Haleigh. Then her reported missing at 3:30am.

 

[CarrieBean]

And what was the reason she did NOT pick them up or call CAS???

It's possible her home isn't much different.

 

[redcar1]

This whole thing about the laundry. I could see GmS doing RC & the kids laundry without a doubt. RC is too busy between working and drug dealing to do laundry.

Where had HC & Jr. stayed with the 3 nights MC was on her 3 day party-binge? If she was staying with GmS, and if Jr & HC are like my kids, my kids HAVE to have their special p.j.'s and blanket to sleep. Maybe they had stayed with her and she washed them and brought back to the house for them that night.

How would the kids react to having MC back in the mh if they had stayed with GmS for days previously? It takes my kids a day or 2 to come back to earth after staying with grandma. They tend to spoil them so maybe HC was acting up having MC back watching them. Maybe she wanted to stay with GmS again instead of MC. And that made MC mad!

Also, I HOPE LE realizes that MC states she was sleeping and woke up to either get a drink/use the bathroom, WHY would she throw a load of clothes in the washer? And even if she did BEFORE she went to bed... does anyone else's washing machine run for 3 hours? (asking facetiously, of course!)

JMO

 

[passionflower]

When, why did GGS and GH become friends in all this?
Why did GH call GGS about location?
Before LE?

 

[bessie]

Was he convicted on all of them.

I dont remember seeing the one about meth.

Seems like I remember some about hunting with an illegal gun and having pot.

imo

I don't have the document bookmarked and can't put my hands on it at the moment, but believe me, the charges were numerous spanning from 2001-2005. He skated on all of them.

There was an extensive discussion on JVM, 02/25/2009.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html

 

[exfiler]

And she also claimed she took a blanket down from the window..
We know the story about the pee blanket was false, but we have never heard anymore about the blanket she had to wash that came from the window..JMO

Not so fast Emeralgem

Haleigh Cummings Investigation: Is the 'Smoking Gun' a Soaking Blanket?

When police arrived at the Cummings home at approximately 3:25 a.m. February 10 to respond to the report that Haleigh Cummings was missing, the washing machine was running. If Misty Cummings, the only person over the age of 5 in the house, had been in bed sleeping from 10 pm until she woke up shortly after 3 am and discovered Haleigh missing, why was the washing machine on?

In a Today Show interview in March, Misty Croslin Cummings said that she washed Haleigh's blanket 7 ½ hours earlier- at 8 pm- and put the clean blanket on a sleeping Haleigh about 10 pm when Misty went to bed herself.

In the August stress test, Misty Croslin Cummings said that she had turned on the washing machine to wash her own blanket and Haleigh's blanket "after dinner" and that she put Haleigh to bed at 8 p.m. February 9.
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

(It is true LE found no detergent in the house, or garbage. However there was no mention as to whether or not there was any dish soap in the house, if you get my drift.)

Here's another Report
Misty Croslin Cummings reported finding a blanket and sheets scattered outside the door of the Cummings residence when she discovered Haleigh missing. Did the blanket and sheets scattered outside the trailer after Haleigh disappeared come from the bed in which Haleigh was sleeping? The washing machine was running, according to police... Did someone strip the bed again that night because Haleigh wet the bed? Haleigh did wet the bed often, according to media reports.

Initially, Misty claimed that Haleigh was sleeping in bed with her. Later, she changed her story to say Haleigh was in a bed in the same room with her. Was that change motivated by the whereabouts - or the condition- of the bed sheets and blanket? It would hardly be credible that someone grabbed a child, bedding and all, if that action required pulling the bedding out from under the adult sleeping next to her. And if the sheets and blanket were soaked, their wetness would cast doubt on Misty's claim to have been sleeping in the same bed with Haleigh and not waking up until 3 am.

to read entire article http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...g2.html?cat=47

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[Native Pride]

I think my focus is more on what she reacted to and what she didn't react to. When that horrible story came out about Haleigh screaming, while Misty was laying in a bedroom, not responding, there was little reaction at all from GGM. No shock or horror on her face that I could see. On the other hand she needs to tell about how Misty helped carry the laundry, proof of her sobriety, to show she wasn't drugged that night. I should probably stop trying to figure these people out.

i gonna rewatch it cause i thought the reaction i saw her do In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen sign but than i thought maybe she was swatting bugs

 

[butterfly1978]

Please clarify::::Washer was running when LE arrived................
I don't recall ever hearing that.......


Put the shirts on::::robably sweatshirts

I can"t remember where I heardit but, didn't Ron say that there were dirty clothes in the dryer and the beds were made.... or did I dream that?