Do I understand correctly he is also requesting child support? It seems a moot point, considering the circumstances. Never mind her being a sahm.
did i miss a link or something? she had an affair with his brother? do we have info on that?OK....so the affair you are talking about was with Kaine's brother but NOT the one who is now serving time? Or is it one of Kaine's brothers but we don't know which one, yes?
Wondering if this is true when Kaine found out about it....
did i miss a link or something? she had an affair with his brother? do we have info on that?
thank you! i have been at work all day and trying to catch up. i knew i hadn't seen anything like that. i appreciate you answering so quicklyThis is a RUMOR. Nothing has ever been reported of TH having an affair with anyone!!!
I haven't read ahead and I hope a moderator clarifies this. But just in case, here's my request for clarification.
I am confused because I tend to assume that there are probably children living in any random house I see, both in real life and on the internet.
Same with any church, store, mall, park, etc.
I understand why no pictures of minors who are not the subject of a case. But no pictures of a house on the grounds that a child may someday be inside?
Did the school call the H home when K was not in the classroom that morning?
Hard to believe they wouldn't have and the whole day passes and he is not on the school bus at 3:45.
Add to that shudder that Eby was on parole from prison at the time - his gym shoes found at the creek where Riley was found were prison issued with his name on them - ignored
The sexual assault DNA - ignored
Fingerprints on the screen door - ignored
All while most in Illinois and the country were screaming 'death penalty' for Kevin Fox. I'm not sure I'll ever get over this case - makes me want to move out of Illinois.![]()
For what it's worth, a spouse can always testify against the other spouse, but they cannot be compelled to if the state law protects married spouses from having to do so. he did not have to file to testify, in other words.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37992992/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
Her children? So she can't see the older son either?
Can Kaine apply for a RO for the older son if he's not his adopted or biological parent?
BBM
A mentally, verbally, and/or physically abusive husband could be responsible for her haggard appearance as well. If we're going to sleuth Terri and pick apart her life and mental health based on glimpse or two into her life, then I think we have to do the same for Kaine. IMHO, he doesn't come off well when delving into his past.
This is a complex area of law with details varying from state to state, and federal courts having yet another set of rules. The "spousal privilege" concept has two different segements: one relating to spousal testimonial privilege, and the other to marital confidences privileges. As far as I know, the spousal testimonial privilege, taken separately, is such that a spouse can always voluntarily testify against the other spouse. However, at least in some states, an accused spouse can block the the other spouse from being questioned about anything than can be construed to fall under the definition of marital confidences, i.e. private communications that occurred between the spouses. So for example (depending on the specifics of Oregon law), if the prosecution wanted to ask Kaine "Did Terri ever tell you she wanted Kyron to go live with his mother, now that Baby K has been born?" (which presumably they would want to ask because Kaine had already told them she had said this), the defense attorneys could block him from answering or from being asked any further questions about anything Terri ever said privately to Kaine.
Other posters have mentioned that spousal privilege rules are not applicable in cases of the murder or abuse of a child. That's true, but depending on what evidence the prosecution can ultimately dig up, they might not be able to bring such a serious charge against Terri, even if they were pretty sure she actually killed Kyron. This happens an awful lot in criminal law, where somebody that everybody really knows actually committed a murder, ends up being charged with obstruction of justice or evidence tampering, etc, because there simply isn't enough solid evidence to support a conviction for the "real" crime.
I don't know the specifics of Oregon law, but anticipation of Kaine wanting to be free to testify against Terri may well have been a factor in the decision to get the divorce filing done so quickly.
haha...I was about to go through that whole spiel, too (which ITA with btw), but someone posted the Oregon law that says the privilege doesn't apply when there is spouse on spouse crime OR a crime by one spouse on the child of either of the couple. Problem solved!!! Thank goodness, b/c it really is a very complex issue otherwise.
I rather doubt this. As others have pointed, no former wives or girlfriends have come forward to say anything negative about him, and he seems to be on very good terms with Desiree. Also, if she'd been a victim of abuse at Kaine's hands, I'm SURE she and/or someone else would have clued in police on it by now, and if police had any reason to believe anything like that had been happening, they'd have shared what they knew with the judge who ruled on the RO request. NO WAY would the judge have barred Terri from any contact whatsoever with her baby daughter, and given Kaine (for now) exclusive control over the baby, if the judge had the slightest reason to believe Kaine had been abusing Terri. That judge knows a whole lot more than we do, including everything investigators felt he needed to know to rule on the RO, and the RO he issued speaks volumes about the resulting perceptions he has of Kaine and Terri, respectively.
Ummm, did you read the second paragraph of my post that you quoted? She hasn't been charged yet, and we have no idea what charges the prosecutor will ultimately determine can be supported by the available evidence. At this point, they seem to be struggling to come up with enough solid evidence to arrest her for *anything*.
I would think not. But I would also think the judge could choose to add the other child(ren) of the person be subjected to the restraining order. Her son had to be listed on the form (which had a section for listing children of both the person filing the request and the targeted person). If the supporting evidence and allegations were sufficient to convince the judge that it wasn't safe for Terri to have even supervised visitation with her 18 month old daughter, it would only be reasonable to bar her from contact with her other children as well (especially if the supporting information indicated that issues with the older son might have precipitated the events which warranted keeping her away from the baby).
But IF she suffered from severe PPD, would she have been regularly updating her facebook status, playing games on facebook, taking pictures of the kids (who looked happy and content, not neglected due to a mother who was barely able to function due to PPD), volunteering at the elementary school and going to the gym for regular workouts?
I think the reason her pictures look so haunted and terrible is because her son is missing and she is stressed out of her mind. Maybe she's dead-eyed because she knows she is going to be caught and spend her life in prison. Maybe she's totally innocent and is dazed-looking because she's in emotional agony. I don't believe she has PPD, though, since she appears to have been functioning just fine prior to Kyron's disappearance.
Kyron's parents Kaine and Desiree Young, along with her husband Tony, are conducting a press conference Thursday morning.