2010.07.15 Defense motion to protect phone call of Robin Lunceford

[RR0004]

There's an epidemic of Selective memory loss syndrome lately. First Cindy, now Baez.....

jinx...

 

[Aedrys]

You guys must have low standards if you thought this Response to Response:waitasec: was any good. I thought it was still a piece of carp. The only good part was the part with the legal citations, which was a direct cut-and-paste quote from the State's Response. (For some reason, JB put that part in italics instead of quotation marks.)

*points to Baez and the whole defense* AZlawyer, look what we have to deal with!!!!!

If we had high standards for Baez, I'd be REALLY worried about this place. All we can possibly have for him is low, low standards. We're talking bottom of the barrell, law school by email, monkeys could do a better job low standards for Baez.

If I didn't have this defense for entertainment, I mean if Baez were doing a better job, we wouldn't have near as much fun, I mean, there wouldn't be so much to talk about when he does something semi-decent for once!

 

[Aedrys]

There's an epidemic of Selective memory loss syndrome lately. First Cindy, now Baez.....

I know!!!! It seems like he thought she did so well with that in court a few weeks ago, why not try in it a motion? *facepalm*

Baez, the absolute LAST person you should be taking cues from is Cindy!

 

[logicalgirl]

I thought JB's response was filled with anger, spite and very immature.

Yup, anger, spite and very immature = Baez + public humiliation.

 

[wildchild1961]

You guys must have low standards if you thought this Response to Response:waitasec: was any good. I thought it was still a piece of carp. The only good part was the part with the legal citations, which was a direct cut-and-paste quote from the State's Response. (For some reason, JB put that part in italics instead of quotation marks.)

I'm new here so forgive me if I am way off base in this area ( I know little of law but this site is helping .. .lol) .. from the past few defense motions I have seen, the defense motions seem to be mostly full of the defense describing what their interpretation of a particular law is.. versus .. "citing" what laws or decisions best show that they have a legal leg to stand on to win their point.

Just my opinion of course
wild

 

[logicalgirl]

I'm new here so forgive me if I am way off base in this area ( I know little of law but this site is helping .. .lol) .. from the past few defense motions I have seen, the defense motions seem to be mostly full of the defense describing what their interpretation of a particular law is.. versus .. "citing" what laws or decisions best show that they have a legal leg to stand on to win their point.

Just my opinion of course
wild

You are absolutely right - and we keep comparing his interpretations to the SA's case law. We have no choice because Baez is much much too busy (read lazy) to actually research some case law to include in his documents.

And I think your post is the biggest understatement we've had here in the last week.

 

[mitzi]

Let me see now - where have we heard that phrase "I do not recall" or "I have no recollection" before recently???

Oh yeah, it was Cindy Anthony at the hearing a week or so ago. Hmm, I wonder if it's some kind of germs or bugs he gave her - she is acting the same way! :waitasec:

Bold mine.

I think it's the black plague, or was that the black widow...yeah, that's right...black widow...ie. KC! :furious:

 

[zoey]

From paragraph 4 of the Supplemental Motion... From the defense
http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/Hi...ne Recording of Robin Lunceford 7-23-2010.pdf
4. In said call, information is given to the undersigned counsel including the names of more potential witnesses...


From Paragraph 4 from State of Florida's response to the above Supplemental...
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/24408283/detail.html
4. As an alternative, the Defendant contends that the call contains attorney work product information including the names of potential additional witnesses. A review of the call again reveals this assertation to be untrue...

From Paragraph 2 of the Response to the Response... from Baez.
http://www.wesh.com/pdf/24413703/detail.html
2. The undersigned has also made the Court and Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick aware that the other witness names that were obtained may also have not come from the call but from other communications. Again this assertion was made without the benefit of the call, it was not made in any way to mislead the Court, especially given the fact that the Court already had a copy ofthe call...

Soooo..... Baez has previously notified JP and LDB that the names of other witnesses might not be from the call? Where are these notifications?
Looks like an outright attempt to mislead to me. These types of ongoing misrepresentions are really getting on my nerves! I can just imagine how they are affecting The Court and The State.

Just a thought/question....If he is asserting that he has received other communications from inmates and knew that some perhaps weren't recorded (he seems to know this scheme a bit to well...almost like he has furnished bat phones in the past? jmo)---isn't that part a huge huge red flag of illegal mess that is jb?????

I think he has confirme why those silly little letters (5000) pages of docs that he has complained (i.e., whined) about in court the last two times haven't been read.....he is to busy trying to garner sympathy playing this kind of silly game...first they yank HHJS from his position, whine about his motion, then file that outrages lack of respect motion against him (i.e. whine)---

I truly think they all need to grow up and try to actually defend their "special" client....and use their "legal knowledge" instead of their practice of reminding us that she is facing the death penality.....they need to pull on their panties and actually do somethng....:banghead:

Loved LDB response ---- she really gets to the point and nails it!:dance: whereas jb.....:loser:

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

In a court filing today, Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick seemed to scoff at Baez’s argument that the Lunceford call was private and he was being illegally recorded. She said the tape contained “rantings” by Lunceford.

WFTV-Ch. 9’s Kathi Belich explained tonight that prosecutors say Baez had to know the call was being recorded because he pressed 1 to accept the call. Belich also highlighted that prosecutors say Lunceford told Baez the call was being recorded and that Baez’s assistant say he was expecting the call.

In a response today, Baez complained that Drane Burdick personally attacked him and his recollection, WESH-Ch. 2’s Bob Kealing reported. Baez also asked for a copy of the tape “to make further objections or requests for redaction,” Kealing added. “The tape fight is just heating up.”

Judge Belvin Perry will rule on whether the recorded conversation will be kept private.

What does this Baez development mean? WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said, “At worst, it’s an intentional misrepresentation to the court. At best, it’s a faulty memory. He has damaged his credibility with Judge Perry in either event.”

WESH anchor Martha Sugalski described the “scathing back and forth” between Baez and the prosecution.

WESH anchor Jim Payne said, “Prosecutors now claim that Jose Baez has a faulty memory and is making untrue claims about recorded phone calls with a state prison inmate.”http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en...thony-has-jose-baezs-memory-let-him-down.html


I believe this defense team lost their credibility loooong ago...JMHO

I wonder if any sanctions will be placed on Baez? I wonder how long he'll remain an attorney, officer of the court (yeah, right!)....:innocent:


Justice for Caylee

 

[wonders]

Is there any place other than WESH that I might be able to read Baez's new motion? My puter says the file is damaged and that it can't be fixed.

TIA.

 

[truckengirl]

Boy of boy, Jose REALLY does not want this tape released, for him to take the time to file a response to the SA's response speaks volumns for me. Now he wants time to redact parts of the tape before it is released, that makes me want to know even more what was said. That darn SA is making him have to go back to store for more Depends!!!

 

[ThinkTank]

Question, What would be the purpose of writing Linda Drane Burdick? In the response to the response by Baez the Drane part of LDBs name is in italics. Is that supposed to be a slam or something to her? What am I missing?

Wonder if it was a snipe at the Judge, because Judge P. usually calls Ms Burdick .... "Ms Drane" ?
Maybe he was pointing out that everybody makes mistakes? Like he was trying to say that he just made a "mistake" (as opposed to an outright LIE) when he said the Inmate Robin gave him names of new witnesses?

 

[ThinkTank]

Originally Posted by kushka What gets me is the nerve of JB for fighting to have the conversation suppressed, however in his motion itself he writes the part of the conversations HE wants to make public "Lunceford along with Maya Derkovic conspired with Adams to possibly benefit by lying to the State about Casey Anthony,".In other words suppresses all the parts of the conversation that might show him in some misconduct, but publicizes the one statement he want every one to know.

Makes me wonder if JB is using this whole controversy to get the message out repeatedly about Lunceford's claims to pollute the future Jury pool because he will never use it and it won't fly at trial?

It seems so similiar to the RK ex-Wife accusations, a lot of noise made in the media with videos available for repeated replaying with the goal to slime RK in the public eye but never really use it.

The deed is done, sometimes there is a method to the madness.

JB announced this matter in OPEN court at the last Hearing on July 15th. Usually, when JB does not want the public to know something, he asks for a SIDEBAR to go talk to the Judge in private. With this matter, JB announced in open court, for the CAMERAS, that he wanted the phone call from this Inmate sealed. IMO he said just enough for the cameras, to let potential jurors know that Inmate Maya D's testimony AGAINST Inmate Anthony is not to be trusted.

He wants the phone recording sealed ... while at the same time ... leaking out just a hint of info to make potential jurors question the Prosecution's witness, Inmate Maya D. and Inmate Robin A..

If the recording gets sealed, like JB wants it to be ... at least he got the part OUT to the public, which he wants potential jurors to hear - that they should disregard Inmate Maya's testimony about Inmate Anthony saying she gave her daughter chloroform.

 

[ThinkTank]

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069172.pdf
page 8
OCSO Report - "Robin Adams talked with Casey Anthony on a variety of topics. Casey Anthony told her Caylee Anthony had trouble sleeping and she had to use chloroform to put her to sleep. Casey Anthony implied her mother Cindy Anthony may have brought the chloroform home when she worked at a local clinic."

This is why JB is trying so hard to discredit Inmate Robin Adams' testimony.... IMO

 

[TorisMom003]

Wonder if it was a snipe at the Judge, because Judge P. usually calls Ms Burdick .... "Ms Drane" ?
Maybe he was pointing out that everybody makes mistakes? Like he was trying to say that he just made a "mistake" (as opposed to an outright LIE) when he said the Inmate Robin gave him names of new witnesses?

Thank you. That makes a little more sense but then to think that he would expect the judge to read between the lines seems counterproductive. He should have just come right out and said that. But then we are talking about Baez.

 

[wonders]

Here you go friend. View attachment 10305

He may very well be in real hot water over lying to the judge. Let's call it what it is, lies (IMO).

Thank you very much TWA. It's not meant for me to see as I get the damamged can not be repaired message again. Thank you for going to the trouble of passing it to me.

 

[logicalgirl]

Thank you. That makes a little more sense but then to think that he would expect the judge to read between the lines seems counterproductive. He should have just come right out and said that. But then we are talking about Baez.

Maybe if you got a new avatar you would stop hurting yourself trying to understand Baez's thought processes? LOL

 

[ThinkTank]

Originally Posted by ThinkTank
Wonder if it was a snipe at the Judge, because Judge P. usually calls Ms Burdick .... "Ms Drane" ?
Maybe he was pointing out that everybody makes mistakes? Like he was trying to say that he just made a "mistake" (as opposed to an outright LIE) when he said the Inmate Robin gave him names of new witnesses?

Thank you. That makes a little more sense but then to think that he would expect the judge to read between the lines seems counterproductive. He should have just come right out and said that. But then we are talking about Baez.

IMO ... he doesn't have the cahones to come right out and say, LOOK the JUDGE can't even get the Prosecutor's name right ! Gimme a break .... I made a "mistake" too .....

 

[TorisMom003]

Originally Posted by ThinkTank
Wonder if it was a snipe at the Judge, because Judge P. usually calls Ms Burdick .... "Ms Drane" ?
Maybe he was pointing out that everybody makes mistakes? Like he was trying to say that he just made a "mistake" (as opposed to an outright LIE) when he said the Inmate Robin gave him names of new witnesses?



IMO ... he doesn't have the cahones to come right out and say, LOOK the JUDGE can't even get the Prosecutor's name right ! Gimme a break .... I made a "mistake" too .....

Perhaps he can borrow Cindy's?!?!

 

[logicalgirl]

Originally Posted by ThinkTank
Wonder if it was a snipe at the Judge, because Judge P. usually calls Ms Burdick .... "Ms Drane" ?
Maybe he was pointing out that everybody makes mistakes? Like he was trying to say that he just made a "mistake" (as opposed to an outright LIE) when he said the Inmate Robin gave him names of new witnesses?



IMO ... he doesn't have the cahones to come right out and say, LOOK the JUDGE can't even get the Prosecutor's name right ! Gimme a break .... I made a "mistake" too .....

Thanks ThinkTank - I didn't ever notice that. Hmm maybe HHJP has known LDB since before she was married and was still LD?