I'm hoping JA will bring up the fact that the devoted mother sent 553 text message in the time Caylee was 'missing'.... only 2 even mentioned Caylee and those didn't mention any problem.
I think it is very clear that the defense team has sent LKB out as a scout to see how the "accident" theory will play. Otherwise, there is no way she would be out there admitting Casey lied. jmo
Bold mine.
Yup Cheney! The same "young girl" that you are sitting real close to in the courtroom. The same "young girl" that you are seen touching her arm and hair of in the courtroom. The same "young girl" that grabs you around the waist as she enters the courtroom! Not such a "young girl" then, huh Cheney! :maddening:
Someone above wrote: "did anyone else get the feeling the DT were actually being played by the producers of this program? I, for one, got the resounding impression that 48 Hours weren't buying what the DT are selling AT ALL, and, crediting their viewers with rather more intelligence than JB does - of course the entire point of this exercise was ratings - they presented the defense as what it really is - a farce."
Exactly! First of all, this "mock jury" appeared to be more of a "focus group" than a "jury". Given that a "juror" has had evidence presented to them at a trial.
Did anyone catch the preface Jury Consultant Gabriel used in asking these folks if they would convict on first degree murder? "Based on what we have presented to you here today......." So, WHATEVER was presented to these folks was presented to them in one day?
Plus, when discussing conviction on an Involuntary Manslaughter charge, I found it to be interesting that the focus group members were opining (and voting, apparently) on what they thought MIGHT have happened, such as an accidental drowning, etc. My understanding is that if evidence of an accidental death is not presented at a trial, then that theory could not even be considered by a real jury, correct?
In the overall, I feel this broadcast hurt the DT more than it helped them - because it did present the basic story, the 31 days of not reporting the child missing, the smell in the car. I still don't understand LKB's verification that Casey has been lying about the nanny. Other than to think the DT was just so sure they were going to be able to use the "psychiatric disorder" defense. And now that's out, so where does that leave them?
Interesting to me: Clip of George stating that he walked Casey and Caylee out to the car on that last day. Has he since changed that story? Because I recall him saying he was watching TV and "saw them go out the door".
To answer a question: ABC (American Broadcast Corp) paid the original $200,000. Last night's show was CBS. And yes, I thought there was new video of Caylee in there, so would assume some money changed hands along the way for the purchase of that film. And since Casey is indigent, it could not have gone to her or her defense. George and Cindy?
I swore I wasn't going to, but was on this site when everyone started watching. Most of the things the defense and their experts said I just rolled my eyes at, I knew they were coming, but I was surprised at how much time they devoted to Pam Bondi, who was emphatic that no one but ICA could have killed Caylee, and they did show a lot of the weird Anthony family dynamic which she commented on too- she said they all pander to ICA.It wasn't as bad as I expected,the Jury part of it was just the last couple of minutes- they didn't tell us what 'evidence' they were privy to, just staged this scene where they all stood up and accquitted her. A couple of the Jurors stated they thought it had to have been an accident.They said they couldn't convict her, but they didn't want her to walk free either...!
It went to commercial after that so I thought they were going to come back and ask Jury members to explain their decisions but the show was over.
JB wants the Jury to say exactly what this one did- she couldn't have killed her, but we're going to spank her because she didn't do the right thing afterward.
I think it is very clear that the defense team has sent LKB out as a scout to see how the "accident" theory will play. Otherwise, there is no way she would be out there admitting Casey lied. jmo
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So, so RespectfullyQuoted mitzi :takeabow: :tyou: :tyou:
BBM
I had a strong, personal reaction to seeing CM take his index finger, place it in the crook of ICA's arm and start stroking...stroking...stroking...stroking...it was difficult to watch. I cannot begin to express how offended I am to have this same attorney refer to Casey as a 'young lady' or offer any kind of innocent persona for me to believe as he molests her in front of me. I feel as if I was made an accessory to a crime. :yuck: I saw Casey give CM the big squeeze around his waist as she greeted him at the last hearing. Maybe she knows Jose is not going to be able to save her or she can't count on him and CM is her last chance? Or is she doing the touching because George is not at court. I think it is because George is not in court.
The personal reaction I had, has to do with emotional molestation. We have talked about that before, I believe there is such a thing. With the "beautiful" stuff from George, there is enough evidence for me to believe Casey was emotionally molested by George. He is a selfish man, needs lots of attention and sympathy and he will get it from anyone he can. IMHO: maybe this is the reason ICA claims she was "traditionally" sexually molested by her father, and maybe the reason she is carrying on a emotional affair with CM?
Except for family, I do not just hug anyone and everyone. If someone comes toward me for a hug, I always hug back of course but it is not always comfortable for me. I can like a person a whole lot and still not feel comfortable hugging them, its not personal. It's because I am a freak.
So, my view of normal human interaction and affections is admittedly skewed but I still find what is happening between ICA and CM to be over the top behavior for people who have reason to be close. I was going to post about this in the side bar thread, but it was closed and its not important information but it got brought up again... :twocents: I had to relieve the feelings I had about the subject...feel better.
As far as the 48 hours special. Thank you so much to the people that watched the show and posted. People think the hearings are hard to watch but at least there is the prosecution's side(Caylee's side which will get louder the closer we get to trial and into trial)and HHJP, Kathi B...etc. but with this television program(not news program imo)there is only what the producers want you to know. :loser: I did not and could not watch the show. You all are stronger than I am, I would have raged. :furious: But hearing it from you makes it easier.
Jose and CM sitting there together, on 48 hours stating that Casey can't get a fair trial and this case has been tried in the media...sums up perfectly for me the insanity(smarm)the defense is all about: slight of hand. If it is true that this has been tried in the media, who has done that? If it is true that Casey cannot get a fair trial because of the media, who has done that? :snooty:
My favorite quote posted from this program: "the prosecution refused to speak to 48 hours." :blowkiss: For the State's Attorneys! JA and LDB :tyou:
Trial time, time to put your money where you mouth is...(remember when people used to say that? I do. )eace:
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NOT EVEN A DAY ------------> "After roughly four-and-a-half hours, the participants came to a shocking conclusion."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/04/16/48hours/main20054402_page5.shtml
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh: And the judge estimates 2-3 months for the trial!
It would not take more than one day just to list the evidence. What takes so long in an actual trial is the back and forth questioning from both sides, with the defense trying to dispute it and the prosecution trying to prove it. I'm sure that they didn't have any of this in the mock trial, just one person laying out what the evidence is, with a brief explanation of the significance of each exhibit, and then a brief summary of what the defense would present as rebuttal.
Mock juries are fairly common in a lot of cases. I participated in an online mock jury several years ago, and the case was laid out very well, both sides were presented in general terms... no opening or closing statements, no objections, no sidebars, no questioning. Just the facts pertaining to the case. It was interesting to find out afterwards how the case was finally decided.
If it were an accident why, oh why would you not have called 911 instead of taking the time to tear four pieces of duct tape and place them on your child's face. That could have been time you spent trying to revive your child. jmo
I agree! Until she started with the whole 'Poor Casey' Spiel... then I started tuning her out. Million dollar question. What does the defense have up their sleeve????
That would be interesting to participate in an online mock jury!
That would be interesting to participate in an online mock jury!
BBM
I get the same nauseous reaction to that particular clip... even thinking about it makes me have to look at roadkill to erase it from my head..... Casey behaves inappropriately with every male she comes in contact with... even in front of the cameras.... it's her standard method of controlling the relationships. She invites intimacies that are inapproprite and then claims it was the other parties fault. They took advantage of her.. I suspect that is how she got herself pregnant as well. its how she rolls.