2011.05.28 TRIAL Day Five (Morning Session Only)

[sleutherontheside]

Maybe the whole shoulder injury was really KC's being sore after tossing Caylee in the woods.

 

[jon_burrows]

WOWEEZOWEE!!

Listen to the fabulous stream of lies. I'm loving how this is playing out. CA is laying this out nicely thanks to Linda Drane-Burdick. ICA lies so easy. It just flows out of her mouth. CA has all this info that SOUNDS totally relevant and plausible, except for the fact that there is no Zanny, no tampa, no juliette, no annabell! I love it love it love it!

If i was a jurur i would seriously think, wow, thats very detailed info, and when they get to the part about this things all being lies.. there will be shock

BBM-Perfect word for what's happening right now.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

Well, if Cindy is well aware of lies, I wish she would put some tone or attitude into her response..

Huh? Have you been watching all morning?

 

[strawberry]

I missed Caylee when I was at work. So yes I was missing her very much by then. Here comes the teddy bear she slept with and then it disappeared.

 

[iluvmua]

Well folks..... shows over. I think Casey will end up pleading.

 

[CementPond]

Wait until the jury hears, after all this "Zanny" talk, that she never even existed. Wow will they be shocked!

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

As weird as it sounds I truly believe CA wanted to believe it to be so...I think she truly believed it...I've known others that you just question them and their denial---denial is strange and some choose to see their kids in a perfect light---or whatever--(4 horus sleep may not make sense but---)

Moreover, LDB letting her spin these tales lets the jury know SHE believed ICA - even if it's ridiculous - the jury is seeing what a manipulative liar ICA is

 

[wenwe4]

LDB w/CA . . .Lauren Gibbs was a good friend of KC. CA knew her well. . ZTN was supposed to live near UCF @ first, she moved around quite frequently. . . never dropped Caylee off at ZTN . . .request KC to contribute to maintenance of the home . . .Not financially . . .expected help w/laundry, cleaning, her room, Caylee's room, bathrooms, KC pitched in . . that was the requirement for the kids . . .more lenient with LA than KC . . . KC would get dressed and appeared to go to work . . depends on the day . . would be dressed or had extra clothes with her . . .in her posession walking out or in her car . . .most of the time she was dressed ready for work . . .ZTN was never found . . .looking for her until . . . asks about time period . . .7/15/08 until when? Until about 6 weeks ago . . .

Left for work 6/16/08 little early but normal for a MOnday . . talked to kc some throughout that day left messages to each other . . . think brief conversation late in afternoon around 4:00 lasted few seconds. . . plans for that day . . spend night @ ZTN knew she couldn't drop Caylee off early @ CA's work .... typically caylee can spend time @ work for last half hour or hour . . .CA had a meeting . . .kc had an early next day @ work . . .make sense to take Caylee and spend night @ ZTN . . typically CA would be out of work by 6 on Monday . . . shift GA worked 3-11 normal day to work . . .neither of you could have watched Caylee . . .CA would have watch later in the evening settle her down . . it made sense to let her stay that night with Caylee & Casey . . .expected both of them returning home the next day . . called KC she was told in negotioations lots of meetings lengthy . . .didn't know when done going to stay and keep Caylee with ZTN on that Tues. ..on Wed 6/18 kc was headed from Hardrock Orlando going to Tampa . . fun to take Caylee w/her to Busch gardens to see animals ...ZTN was free and willing to go along with a co-worker and the co-worker child . . .Caylee would have a playmate. . .Juliette Lewis . . .had a child named Annabelle . . thought they might wrap up Friday nite with their meetings spend the day saturday and come home Sat. 6/21/08. Talk to kc on dates of 6/18 - 6/21 everyday once during the day and during the evenings . . .Caylee liked to talk on phone . . CA asking to speak to Caylee on phone . .always reason kc not with Caylee, in bed, kc @ meetings. . . waited til Sat 21st to see them .. .kc told CA they didn't finish on Friday . . . meeting on Saturday a little too . .. time @ the park . . .Juliette & Annabelle, kc, Caylee, ZTN, a friend of ZTN go to park on Sunday and return Sunday or Monday 23rd, not expect see them Monday 23rd . . . .didn't happen . .. remember waiting allday @ work on Monday for kc to call . . .wanting to make sure they were home safe from Tampa. .calling and leaving messages for kc are you home yet. . .worried something happened mentioned it to CA co-worker . . . kc said didn't panic . . car accident . . Caylee, KC, Juliette & Annabel were following ZTN before got to I-4 ZTN got in a serious car accident she had been @ hospital . . .she and Caylee were perfectly fine . . .CA asked to speak to Caylee . . .KC @ hospital Caylee back @ hotel ? . . .they were @ hospital Caylee had been taken on a walk . . .the toddlers werent in emergency area . . .bad timing again to talk to Caylee. . . June 24th . . .shed @ home incident? Aware GA contacted OSCO re: break in of the shed? what time . . GA called CA same time he reported it . . .in the morningbefore noon . . .CA shared that info to KC . . .what were the plans . . how is ZTN and what going on? Some one broke into shed . . stolen his gas cans. . .chuckled . . don't remember kc's response . . .lighten day for her . . .break up the conversation . . . GA saw KC @ home on 6/24 . . .GA called CA about that .. .CA try to contact KC after learning she was @ the house . . .thought you were in Tampa? Mom I think they are going to admit . . .ZTN had her ID but not insurance info . . KC drove to ZTN apt to pick up insurance info....stopped home to get things ...headed back didn't know when they were home . .. CA would take off work to watch Caylee . . .didn't occur to kc to grab Caylee. . . kc saw her dad. . .given him back gas cans ...explained she taken them with her to Tampa she thought something wrong with gas gauge . . would not ready empty . . .run out gas a few times. . . got explanation on 6/24 . . thought she didn't go go home since 6/16 . . .no significance to CA . . . thought kc & Caylee returning from tampa . .not kc responsible for take care of ZTN . . .longer Caylee away from home . .not a good idea . . ZTN mother is very ill . . .her brothers & sisters ... care for ZTN Mom . . Raquel (ZTN roomy) mother coming from Jacksonville to care for her . . .she needed Caylee. . .CA missed since 6/16 all those hours at work . . .started sleeping with Caylee items . . .

 

[IRule254]

CA was sleeping with Caylees teddy bear "Teddy"

 

[Whimsigal]

omg, the freaking details of all these lies are blowing. me. away. The jury is going to go back and think to themselves, "She put her family through all this only to 'come clean' now that Caylee drowned? Yeah right." This is where the really damning portion of the State's case comes in.

 

[Cubby]

CA is relating all of this like it's true because to her it was the truth, ICA made this CA's life too. All based on lies, the jury must be reeling with this info.

So true! I can't help but to continuously think of the thousands of lies Casey told why the DT would think the jury would believe the ONE truth ICA told was the alleged abuse by her father. Even a psychiatrist couldn't make that work with a scientific study of thousands!

 

[Tuffy]

So, at this point the jury sees that ICA's lies were not any kind of alternate reality, but self-serving lies.
I hope they are shaking their heads.

Yep. The lies start flowing when she needs excuses.

Whoa! Cindy started sleeping with Caylee's teddy bear while she was gone. Again, seems more like a mom thing, than a grandma thing.

 

[magnolia]

I think CA is describing what she was thinking back THEN. I think it's just the way she relates what happened in the past to the best of her recollection, by going back in time in her mind and speech.

Honestly, I think KC lost her two best witnesses six weeks ago.

I hope you're right.

I hope you're right too. Not sure yet.

 

[watergirl]

So who will play CA in the movie? I think Glen Close

juliette lewis

 

[strawberry]

Ok i am not leaving this time!!

 

[marie-chantal]

CA outlining invisnanny's invisifamily and why ICA said she had to care for and assist Zanny during this hospital stay. Why Caylee STILL was not home.

CA doing a very good job of describing all the excuses/lies being told to her by ICA at the time

I agree. I wonder if while she's doing this, she's thinking to herself, "this is crazy. These people don't even exist. How could I have believed this?"

 

[ynotdivein]

LBD is going to take this to the end of the day! Yay! The jury and KC will have the opportunity to sit with this testimony for two days!

moo

Is anyone else hoping that LDB is timing this perfectly to end the day by playing the 911 calls?

 

[Chiquita71]

LDB: june 24th the shed?

yes

LDB: were you aware your husband called OCSO?

yes

LDB: what time did he give you that info?

right around the time he reported it was in the morning before noon

LDB: okay. did you share that info at any point in time with Casey?

yes

LDB: when

shortly after I spoke with George I spoke with Casey to find out how Zanny was and in casual convo I told her someone broke into the shed and stolen the cans and chuckled and I don't remember Casey's response. I thought it would lighten the day for her to break the convo up.

LDB: during that convo were you aware that George had seen Casey at the house earlier?

yes

LDB: did you try to contact her after learning she was at the house? I thought you were in tampa?

yes, I said what are you doing home I thought you were in Tampa. She said zanny didn't have the insurance with her and Casey said she would drive to zanny's apt to get papers made arraingments with family member to get zannys information. she told me she stopped home to get things because she didn't know...why not bring Caylee back...it didn't occurr to her so she just drove home and got it. She said she had seen her father and given him back the gas cans. she had taken them with her when she went to Tampa because just in case something was wrong with her gas gage, she explained she had to take the can to get gas run out of gas, so that's the explaination.

LDB: on june 24th?

yes

LDB: it was your belief she had been gone since june 16th?

at that time I wasn't thinking about that, no significance to me

LDB: on june 24th given any indication when Casey and Caylee return?

I asked why she was doing all this and not a family memeber of zanny. I think your responsibility to Caylee. So I was asking her why and she said mom Zanny's mother is very ill and not able to leave and zannys brother was taking between zannys brother and sister between working it was her responsiblity to take care of zannys mom. Racheal's mom had hurt herself...and felt obliged to stay close to her. she felt like she needed Caylee so.

LDB: were you missing Caylee?

yes, I started missing her june 16th.

LDB: start sleeping with Caylee's items?

I have teddy, cuddle with at night because I was used to cuddling with Casey and Caylee before we go to bed.

HHJP: stretch break.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

All 3 of them cuddled at night ... enmeshment much?

 

[jon_burrows]

awwww, Cindy used to cuddling with Caylee, missed her so she got her teddy bear to sleep with. All the while, ICA is lying like crazy as to why she can't see Caylee. Then she threw in the part about cuddling with ICA (I don't believe that part).

IMO