2011.06.21 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Twenty-four)

[ohiogirl]

IF she is giving 2 different stories,yes they can impeach her-I think it would be a mistake to put her on..the jury is going to see the 2 stories and not know what to believe..they may just cast out her testimony all together.

But, is she a chemist?:floorlaugh:

 

[ohiogirl]

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[Eileen730]

I am not necessarily buying any of her story regarding GA. She is not very reliable. Depending upon how she is crossed by JA, the jury may not consider her testimony at all. jmo

I agree i think the state will make minced meat out of her!

 

[The Farm]

If I am not mistaken every state in the USA has coyotes. Heck they are even in the big cities. Jeff probably really had no idea ifthere were or not, he looks like a city boy.

 

[MissDiva]

IF George told RC it was an "accident that snowballed out of control", could he have meant something like: It was a situation my daughter got herself into with the nanny. She couldn't reach the nanny by phone at first, a few days went by, and it turned into an all out kidnapping that "spun out of control".
He really could have believed his daughter's explanation at the time he talked to RC, IMO

Or it could mean that he really thought it must have been an accident. Like he knew ICA was involved, but he wasn't able to believe that it was intentional.

Either way, even if what he told RC is true, I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee's death. He loved her. That is so apparent.

 

[SyraKelly]

But, is she a chemist?:floorlaugh:

I think we need JB to ask her!!!-lol

 

[texaslb218]

I think we need JB to ask her!!!-lol

Yes, ask her 50 times!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Fellow SiDEbarSleuTHs!!!!!!!!!! I over heard JP on the phone today and you won't believe what he said................

(Congrats on finding teaser pic one -- another bonus pic in slideshow today! LOL)

 

[Stella5]

You just had to show me that didn't you?? I have a raging sweet tooth happening over here.

Oops! Sorry :innocent: I do to! Trying to convince the girls to bake and also trying to figure out a way to take a trip to Orlando just for dessert, LOL

 

[Cherry Baby]

LKB is getting lots of mileage on her new face. Wonder if she asked for the Cher look alike. I wish she'd get off my tv.

Lord help us if she starts singing Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves.

 

[ohiogirl]

Or it could mean that he really thought it must have been an accident. Like he knew ICA was involved, but he wasn't able to believe that it was intentional.

Either way, even if what he told RC is true, I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee's death. He loved her. That is so apparent.

That's my thinking, if he even ever said anything to her. So many people have become involved in this, by the DT, and again by their own desire to get some of the attention. Who knows if any part of her story is the truth?
My jury is still out on that one.

 

[i.b.nora]

I was looking at the Wikipedia listing for The Body Farm over the weekend, and saw by looking at the history entries that the information regarding William Rodriguez being a co-founder was added early this year.

An old revision notation made 20 January 2011 showed that only Mr Bass as a founder.

Whereas, an old revision of this page, as edited by 74.76.128.228 (talk) at 03:43, 26 February 2011 showed this change:

"University of Tennessee at Knoxville

The original "Body Farm" is the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility located a few miles from downtown off of Alcoa Highway in Knoxville, Tennessee, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center. It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains. Anthropologist Dr. William M. Bass became head of the university's anthropology department in 1971, and as official state forensic anthropologist for Tennessee he was frequently consulted in police cases involving decomposed human remains. Since no facilities existed that specifically studied decomposition, in 1981 he opened the department's first body farm."

You can tell by the wording in the last sentence above that someone was not very careful when they attempted to state that Rodriguez was a co-founder.

That listing was changed again back to Bass being the single founder on June 19th of this year.

Anyhow, my question for whoever might remember is, a few weeks ago, there was a similar Wikipedia change of information regarding one of the witnesses, I believe. Does anyone remember who it was?

 

[ohiogirl]

Who would have ever believed that so many people would try to make a name for themselves on the back of a 2 year old baby? It disgusts me. And I am on my last nerve with the MSM and "Caseytown" and the lines fighting to get in to the trial and, and, and, ....

 

[Boots-OK]

I heard that too. But I know from watching Jail on TruTv and Lockup in MSNBC (Yeah I watch too much TV LOL) inmates communicate in all sorts of ways, direct and indirect. ICA could have easily heard April's story somewhere.

Hello, JustMeDeb - April's son drowned in late 2007 - prior to Caylee's death. I think it is very possible that KC heard about this prior to entering jail. Once April was incarcerated, word probably got around that she is the mother of the boy who drowned and that's all that KC needed to weave her tale. Now, if the SA plans to introduce this into evidence - they will need a lot more than my assumptions, imo, but...I don't have a bit of trouble believing that KC took this page from April's life book.

Always, moo

 

[TiaM]

Or it could mean that he really thought it must have been an accident. Like he knew ICA was involved, but he wasn't able to believe that it was intentional.

Either way, even if what he told RC is true, I don't think he had anything to do with Caylee's death. He loved her. That is so apparent.

Or it could simply be a father, hoping against hope, that his daughter didn't do this on purpose. Kind of the old - if I say it's an accident enough, maybe people will believe me, and maybe I'll believe it myself.

 

[QueenD]

Honestly the George connection makes no sense and the DT needs to drop that fantasy! This is a man who had to go before the Grand Jury and answer questions under oath so they could decide whether or not to indict his daughter for Murder!!! Can you imagine the turmoil that caused him? I've never been a GA fan, but IMO if there was an accident there would be no way in hades he'd offer his daughter to the dogs just to save his own behind. JMOO

Also JVM just played a clip of HHJP referring to the dessert lady again. I love him more than ever for giving the juror this... http://www.dessertlady.com/ I honestly thought it was a sandwich/dessert cart with wrapped cookies, brownies, cakes, etc... like I had when I worked near the court. Nope, he's the Man!

I figure it must have been special since the way he likes to comment on it.
It was funny last week when he giggle about it.
Did you see the menu on the desserts?

 

[Quiche]

Theme of the day: :floorlaugh:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdFghZmdwXk"]YouTube - ‪Oak Ridge Boys - Elvira‬‏[/ame]

 

[Kat]

I'm not sure that the gatorade bottle/and syringe should be introduced by the SA.

They have an incredibly strong case as it is and introducing that might muddle some things. IIRC the chloroform found wasn't substantial and there is the problem that testosterone was found in it as well. To me that would muddy very clear waters that the SA has set forth. JMHO though.

 

[Boots-OK]

I was looking at the Wikipedia listing for The Body Farm over the weekend, and saw by looking at the history entries that the information regarding William Rodriguez being a co-founder was added early this year.

An old revision notation made 20 January 2011 showed that only Mr Bass as a founder.

Whereas, an old revision of this page, as edited by 74.76.128.228 (talk) at 03:43, 26 February 2011 showed this change:

"University of Tennessee at Knoxville

The original "Body Farm" is the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility located a few miles from downtown off of Alcoa Highway in Knoxville, Tennessee, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center. It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains. Anthropologist Dr. William M. Bass became head of the university's anthropology department in 1971, and as official state forensic anthropologist for Tennessee he was frequently consulted in police cases involving decomposed human remains. Since no facilities existed that specifically studied decomposition, in 1981 he opened the department's first body farm."

You can tell by the wording in the last sentence above that someone was not very careful when they attempted to state that Rodriguez was a co-founder.

That listing was changed again back to Bass being the single founder on June 19th of this year.

Anyhow, my question for whoever might remember is, a few weeks ago, there was a similar Wikipedia change of information regarding one of the witnesses, I believe. Does anyone remember who it was?

Wasn't it Dr. Vass?

 

[ohiogirl]

I was looking at the Wikipedia listing for The Body Farm over the weekend, and saw by looking at the history entries that the information regarding William Rodriguez being a co-founder was added early this year.

An old revision notation made 20 January 2011 showed that only Mr Bass as a founder.

Whereas, an old revision of this page, as edited by 74.76.128.228 (talk) at 03:43, 26 February 2011 showed this change:

"University of Tennessee at Knoxville

The original "Body Farm" is the University of Tennessee Anthropological Research Facility located a few miles from downtown off of Alcoa Highway in Knoxville, Tennessee, behind the University of Tennessee Medical Center. It was first started in late 1981 by anthropologists William M. Bass and Bill Rodriguez as a facility for study of the decomposition of human remains. Anthropologist Dr. William M. Bass became head of the university's anthropology department in 1971, and as official state forensic anthropologist for Tennessee he was frequently consulted in police cases involving decomposed human remains. Since no facilities existed that specifically studied decomposition, in 1981 he opened the department's first body farm."

You can tell by the wording in the last sentence above that someone was not very careful when they attempted to state that Rodriguez was a co-founder.

That listing was changed again back to Bass being the single founder on June 19th of this year.

Anyhow, my question for whoever might remember is, a few weeks ago, there was a similar Wikipedia change of information regarding one of the witnesses, I believe. Does anyone remember who it was?

Yes, I believe it was Dr. Vass. Someone put some information on him as being a "chemist" maybe? And JB tried to insinuate that he was calling himself a chemist when he was not.
Anyone else remember this?
I think everyone thought it was pretty funny at the time. IIRC