2011.06.30 TRIAL Day Thirty-two (Morning Session)
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DIRECT EXAMINATION OF CA BY JB
Had a dog named Mandy. She took the dog to the vet. They knew she was going to be put down. She took a blanket to the vet (This was her first pet/baby before she had children). They wrapped the dog in the blanket and she was then wrapped in black plastic with packing tape over it. It was not duct tape.
They had a dog named Beau - he died in the summer of 1990. they buried him in the backyard - GA and ICA took the dog to the vet and he died on the table. The vet secured him and he was ready to be buried when she got home. ICA was 4 and LA was in first grade. She believes the dog was buried in black plastic and tape.
There were no other pets the vet had secured for them. They did the others on their own. They would wrap them in a special towel - Ginger and Cinnamon were buried with a towel. She thinks they may have put a favorite toy in. They then put a couple of layers of garbage bags and clear packing tape.
Did you ever tell me they were wrapped in duct tape?
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED - I'll withdraw the question
Penny the cat passed in 2009 and she was put in one of Caylee's hooded bath towels and then put him in the plastic bags and wrapped him with plastic tape.
CROSS EXAM BY LDB
They did not euthanize their own pets with chloroform?
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED
Did you put duct tape on any of the animals faces? No
Cinnamon and Ginger were mom and baby cockers? Yes. They passed within 6 months of each other. The first in the fall of 2003 and then the winter of 2004. ICA was a senior in high school. ICA assisted in wrapping them? She believes ICA was present. The reason for putting the tape was so that the bag would be compact for burial. This was a family tradition.
They had a designated spot in their backyard. This was something the family did for a number of years that the children were aware of. They even had a dog made of stone that they used to mark the spots. ICA was present for one of the cocker's burial, maybe both. She was present when Beau was buried.
REDIRECT EXAM BY JB
The tape was placed at the top and the bottom of the bag so that when they rolled it the air would come out and to try to keep things from getting into the bag.
Witness excused at 11:27
DIRECT EXAMINATION OF CA BY JB
Had a dog named Mandy. She took the dog to the vet. They knew she was going to be put down. She took a blanket to the vet (This was her first pet/baby before she had children). They wrapped the dog in the blanket and she was then wrapped in black plastic with packing tape over it. It was not duct tape.
They had a dog named Beau - he died in the summer of 1990. they buried him in the backyard - GA and ICA took the dog to the vet and he died on the table. The vet secured him and he was ready to be buried when she got home. ICA was 4 and LA was in first grade. She believes the dog was buried in black plastic and tape.
There were no other pets the vet had secured for them. They did the others on their own. They would wrap them in a special towel - Ginger and Cinnamon were buried with a towel. She thinks they may have put a favorite toy in. They then put a couple of layers of garbage bags and clear packing tape.
Did you ever tell me they were wrapped in duct tape?
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED - I'll withdraw the question
Penny the cat passed in 2009 and she was put in one of Caylee's hooded bath towels and then put him in the plastic bags and wrapped him with plastic tape.
CROSS EXAM BY LDB
They did not euthanize their own pets with chloroform?
OBJECTION - SUSTAINED
Did you put duct tape on any of the animals faces? No
Cinnamon and Ginger were mom and baby cockers? Yes. They passed within 6 months of each other. The first in the fall of 2003 and then the winter of 2004. ICA was a senior in high school. ICA assisted in wrapping them? She believes ICA was present. The reason for putting the tape was so that the bag would be compact for burial. This was a family tradition.
They had a designated spot in their backyard. This was something the family did for a number of years that the children were aware of. They even had a dog made of stone that they used to mark the spots. ICA was present for one of the cocker's burial, maybe both. She was present when Beau was buried.
REDIRECT EXAM BY JB
The tape was placed at the top and the bottom of the bag so that when they rolled it the air would come out and to try to keep things from getting into the bag.
Witness excused at 11:27
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objection overruled....no further questions....JA ever taken a dead pet and thrown in swamp? no....witness excused
JB calls CA....have a dog named Mandy in Ohio...when she passed kc ws alive a baby toddler...there come a time she needed to put down....she was very ill...I contacted vet told me to bring a blanket or toy...took with her to vet ...I was holding Mandy when gave her injection...they took her from me and the blanket...I don't know how they put her but I received her back with black plastic and white packing tape over....dog named beau...passed summer of 1990.....kids had a little ceremony in the backyard...buried in back yard..not sure bag but with black plastic with tape...there was no other vet had secured for us...the rest we did on our own...we had a towel for bath...special towel...ginger and cinnamon were buried in a towel...favorite toy ...plastic and wrapped with clear packing tape...did you ever tell me...object-sustain withdraw
Penny in 2009 he passed put him in one of Caylee hooded bath towel..placed him in plastic bags and wraped with packing tape...
LDB - I take it you didn't euthenize your animals with chloroform...object sustain
did you put duct tape on their mouths ?....
cocker spaniels Mom and baby passed away within 6 months of each other...kc was a Sr in high school @ that time....kc assisted you in wrapping Cinnamon or Ginger or both.....I think she put the tape ...reason put tape around prepare for burial...I bured Mandy in backyard in Ohio...we had one spot...when we moved to FL we designated a spot...something done for years the chilren were aware....headstone stone that marked the spots..kc present when dogs were bured....not sure if Cinnamon or Ginger...that in 80's with me...GA was working she was little I came home and buried her by myself...I didn't want the kids...they didn't know she was put down...I wanted to tell.....
tape placed around bags in 2 locations top and bottom...keep air out and keep things from getting into the bag...placed tape @ thirds...
no further questions - witness excused
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I think Casey was sending her parents a message by treating Caylee's body the same way the family pets were treated.
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I totally agree. Good grief, that's a lot dead pets. This only helped the prosecution. This was all in hopes the defense could show the duct tape was at the top of the nag, not on her face.
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CA up again. She's smiling.
JB: Did you have a dog named Mandy in Ohio.
Yes I did.
20+ years ago.
I got her in 1981.
And did there come a time when you took Mandy to the vets to have her put down?
Yes.
How was she buried?
Yes, they told me to bring something to put her with. Like a stuffed animal, or a blanket. She was my first baby before I had the kids. I was holding Mandy when they gave her the injection. They wrapped her in the blanket and black plastic. with tape.
It wasn't duct tape?
No.
When did Beau pass away?
Summer 1990.
How was Beau buried? With black plastic bag and duct tape?
He went to the vets. The vet secured him and I picked him up to be buried.
How old were the kids?
Lee in 1st grade, ICA had just had 4th b-day.
He was buried in a bag with duct tape?
I believe so.
And your other pets?
We buried them on their own. If we didn't have a blanket we'd use a towel. We put one of the toys with one of the cocker spaniels, and then put them in plastic bags and wrap them with packing tape.
Did you ever tell ME you wrapped them with duct tape?
Objection.
JB: I'll withdraw the question.
Another pet was in Casey's bath towel. Then wrapped with packing tape.
You did not euthanize your own pets with chloroform?
No I did not.
Objection,.
Sustained.
Did you put duct tape on the animals faces prior to burial?
Two dogs passed away within six months of each other?
Yes
Casey would have been a senior in HS then?
yes.
And ICA helped you wrap the dogs?
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The reason for putting the tape around the bag was to make the bag compact for burial?
Yes.
This was a family tradition?
I started this in Ohio, when we moved to FL we designated a spot at our home if any animals died we would put them there.
And was ICA present when the dogs were buried?
I'm not sure. I know she was present for Beau, not Mandy.
That was the late 80s?
Yes. I buried the dogs by myself.
When she was a senior in HS she was aware of the method of burial in the yard.
Re-direct.
Did you secure the top of the bag so it wouldn't open?
The top AND the bottom.
No further questions both sides.
JB: Did you have a dog named Mandy in Ohio.
Yes I did.
20+ years ago.
I got her in 1981.
And did there come a time when you took Mandy to the vets to have her put down?
Yes.
How was she buried?
Yes, they told me to bring something to put her with. Like a stuffed animal, or a blanket. She was my first baby before I had the kids. I was holding Mandy when they gave her the injection. They wrapped her in the blanket and black plastic. with tape.
It wasn't duct tape?
No.
When did Beau pass away?
Summer 1990.
How was Beau buried? With black plastic bag and duct tape?
He went to the vets. The vet secured him and I picked him up to be buried.
How old were the kids?
Lee in 1st grade, ICA had just had 4th b-day.
He was buried in a bag with duct tape?
I believe so.
And your other pets?
We buried them on their own. If we didn't have a blanket we'd use a towel. We put one of the toys with one of the cocker spaniels, and then put them in plastic bags and wrap them with packing tape.
Did you ever tell ME you wrapped them with duct tape?
Objection.
JB: I'll withdraw the question.
Another pet was in Casey's bath towel. Then wrapped with packing tape.
You did not euthanize your own pets with chloroform?
No I did not.
Objection,.
Sustained.
Did you put duct tape on the animals faces prior to burial?
Two dogs passed away within six months of each other?
Yes
Casey would have been a senior in HS then?
yes.
And ICA helped you wrap the dogs?
---
The reason for putting the tape around the bag was to make the bag compact for burial?
Yes.
This was a family tradition?
I started this in Ohio, when we moved to FL we designated a spot at our home if any animals died we would put them there.
And was ICA present when the dogs were buried?
I'm not sure. I know she was present for Beau, not Mandy.
That was the late 80s?
Yes. I buried the dogs by myself.
When she was a senior in HS she was aware of the method of burial in the yard.
Re-direct.
Did you secure the top of the bag so it wouldn't open?
The top AND the bottom.
No further questions both sides.
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Okay now Lee Anthony.
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Just tuning in..GA looks nice in a tie.
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JB really really flopped (IMO) on this line of questioning. Shows nothing more than a source of ideas for KC on disposing of Caylee's body.
LA next.
LA next.
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Cindy's testimony about using grave markers to memorialize the pets makes me think of the picture of that little fairy in ICA's Photobucket account ... anyone remember that?
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Did you ever euthanize a pet with chloroform? Awesome. I don't care if they objection was sustained or not.....go, Linda!
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More pet questions?
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Is the jury rolling it's eyes yet?
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