2011.07.11 HLN & FOX News Coverage - Caylee Anthony

[dvdman]

I guess he forgot that the DEFENDANT was the liar of all liars yet he put no weight on that. They (Cindy and George) were NOT on trial. As more and more comes out we realize this was definitely a clueless Juror and Jury.

If it wasn't so sad, I'd be laughing.

He use the word "snowballing" when he told Greta that she may have questions that will snowball into other questions. I guess that's a new word in his vocabulary after Baez used it.

Reading the transcript, listening to him made me very very suspicious of this dude. He blew off Cindy's lying but yet George was the bad guy and a liar and even the possible murderer? Say what?

That is exactly what Baez (Casey) wanted these jurors to believe and ironically that's exactly what this juror believed.

Something stinks.


Oh and he told Greta that it was "An honor" to be there on her show. Really?

2+2 = Geraldo/Baez

That is all.

 

[LambChop]

It's been difficult enough to cope with the "not guilty" verdict but to have to listen to these jurors is excruciatingly painful! I can't get past the "ICA seemed likeable, bright, & articulate" comment. :banghead: WHAT????????? Were they at the same trial as the rest of us, because I do not understand this jurors reasoning.


fftobed: Just shoot me now or wake me up when it's well and truly over.

I think they were talking about the videos. Funny they would notice that but not the content of her conversations. KC was lying to her parents. Sorry but GA did not look guilty of hiding something from CA in those jailhouse tapes. KC is clearly lying to her mother and at times getting a charge out of it. They thought this was normal. Wow.

 

[Pegatha]

I watched the beginning of greta's interview and had to turn it off it made me so frustrated. The lack of logic wAs just astonishing.

The defense Casey was responsible for cahows drowning yet somehow this juror thinks George could have murdered her. Where's the evidence? And why would casey spend three year in jail if this could be pinned on George who she supposedly hates?

Not everyone smelled the car so the car must not have held a body. What about the dogs? He didn't even mention the dogs.

Even if you throw out everything the family said as unreliable/suspicious you are left with a neighbor who saw Casey at house borrowing shovel, backing up car to garage, abandoning smelly car (proven by dogs), out partying after child is dead(admitted by defense), getting beautiful life tattoo, and refusing to help anyone with answers about where to find poor caylee's body that is decomposing and being eaten by animals. When body is found, ME rules it homicide.

How on earth do you return a not guilty verdict because George was suspicious?

 

[lovelabs]

Just cause...... Vinnie Politan can talk to me all day long, he is sooooooooo adorable. ppppppprrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......................................

Ok, dreamy moment over, back to business.

 

[amysmom]

Was this the guy who said the jury had to "follow the letter of the law"? I wish someone would ask him what letter he thinks that is. I also wish someone would point out to these jurors that a) yes, you were supposed to "connect the dots"; b) the State does NOT have to prove HOW or WHY; c) the difference between "reasonable doubt" and "beyond the shadow of a doubt".
This guy said that because the state didn't prove HOW Caylee died, they didn't meet the burden of proof. I wonder how they feel now, knowing that they completely misunderstood the meaning of "burden of proof". Maybe they don't know. Maybe that should be pointed out too.

bbm

I could swear JB said exactly that if not something extremely close to it in his closing..Is there a transcript link? TIA!

 

[LambChop]

I watched the beginning of greta's interview and had to turn it off it made me so frustrated. The lack of logic wAs just astonishing.

The defense Casey was responsible for cahows drowning yet somehow this juror thinks George could have murdered her. Where's the evidence? And why would casey spend three year in jail if this could be pinned on George who she supposedly hates?

Not everyone smelled the car so the car must not have held a body. What about the dogs? He didn't even mention the dogs.

Even if you throw out everything the family said as unreliable/suspicious you are left with a neighbor who saw Casey at house borrowing shovel, backing up car to garage, abandoning smelly car (proven by dogs), out partying after child is dead(admitted by defense), getting beautiful life tattoo, and refusing to help anyone with answers about where to find poor caylee's body that is decomposing and being eaten by animals. When body is found, ME rules it homicide.

How on earth do you return a not guilty verdict because George was suspicious?

George is ex-LE. Remember Drew Peterson. We are way too close to Mr. Peterson being on tv day and night...only a few years ago. It would not be a stretch for these juror to think GA reminds them of cops who just are not honest. I think that is why they focused on GA and not KC. Just a thought but when the jurors all started talking about GA that is what came to mind. jmo

 

[amysmom]

I honestly thought it was because they thought George did it .... looks like I was wrong.
What they are saying makes no sense at all!!

bbm

No, you're mostly right cos he said George MAY have done it..It looked like that one really stunned Greta too!

 

[elfie]

I have a question. Did anyone see an ad for Dominic Casey being on the Dr. Drew show? I thought it was supposed to be last night. Did I miss it?

 

[amysmom]

Lemme get this straight.....

Part of Jury Instruction:

Jurors are NOT supposed to take OS into any consideration nor is OS considered evidence.

PT doesn't have to prove motive.

PT doesn't have to prove how the death occured, only that it was a homicide/murder.

Yet, after listening to all three jurors that have spoken, I feel these are precisely the three things the jurors spoke of most while they deliberated their verdict.

Did I get it wrong?
Maybe the jury missed the memo.

It gets clearer every day they did miss the memo that also included SPECULATION!..It can't be disputed this played a HUGE role in their decision cos Mr. Foreman used that word specifically 10xs or more during the interview.

 

[Emma Peel]

I have to keep reminding myself that while NG clearly believes Casey is guilty regarding Caylee, she also believes Ron (Cummings) is not guilty regarding Haleigh.

OCSO had a body. And a jury trial. And couldn't convict Caylee's mom.

PCSO has no body. Yet PCSO managed to get Ron, Misty & Tommy behind bars for 25+ yrs for dealing pills on tape. In a no-jury plead.

Moral of these two stories? :waitasec:

:dunno:

 

[Sweet Fox]

NG states jury foreman says he's sick and disgusted at the verdict.
Jmo, a little late now.

MOO) This is nothing more than an attempt at damage control. I don't believe it.

 

[Prof]

Was it just me? or did juror#11 seem to know more than was actually presented at trial? He seemed very knowledgeable about all things Cindy. Loved how he called Krystal Holloway "river cruz"...like he knew her.
And it was quite obvious who led the others to this verdict. "I know it all, so just do what I tell you to do."
That's just my take on it. I'm sure most will not agree.

IMO the way he spoke of Cindy was protective, emotional.

Clip:

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you think that Cindy Anthony was telling the truth when she said that she had done the searches for chloroform?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, there's a lot of speculation into that. There's a lot that went into her and looking for the chlorophyll because she was worried about her dogs. You know, I don't know. With Cindy, it wasn't as obvious to me, the lying. I mean, she was -- she was in a lot of pain. She was in a lot of stress. You know, allegedly, she was on a lot of medication. And she's been questioned a number of different times.

But you know, as far as her going back and forth with that, you know, that was something that you always kind of kept in the back of your mind. You know, as far as her lying about it, well, there's, you know, people that may look into that and people -- but that was not something that we really considered much when we were going into deliberation.

(No consideration of the computer searches?)



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-th...e-and-suspicions-george-anthony#ixzz1RtgtgKLg

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I have a question. Did anyone see an ad for Dominic Casey being on the Dr. Drew show? I thought it was supposed to be last night. Did I miss it?

I saw that too. But he wasn't on there so I don't know what happened.

 

[rosepetal1065]

Oh, and, did anybody move to Iran overnight? That's where CM thinks all of us "haters" belong.
Somebody needs to put duct tape over........nevermind.

This dude...please....someone needs to unearth that clip... of him speaking about this case...before he injected himself into it......and give it to the media to run as much as he's running his mouth. The verdict went their way, but they didn't prove their case...they got lucky with that jury. period. imo

 

[Little Black Dress]

It gets clearer every day they did miss the memo that also included SPECULATION!..It can't be disputed this played a HUGE role in their decision cos Mr. Foreman used that word specifically 10xs or more during the interview.

I understand that it would be inappropriate for Judge Perry to publicly comment on this juror's explanation, but I can imagine what he must be thinking (and probably ranting to his wife!), in light of what appears to have been a complete and total disregard by the jury of His Honor's quite thorough instructions.

Boggles the mind, really.

 

[amysmom]

It's been difficult enough to cope with the "not guilty" verdict but to have to listen to these jurors is excruciatingly painful! I can't get past the "ICA seemed likeable, bright, & articulate" comment. :banghead: WHAT????????? Were they at the same trial as the rest of us, because I do not understand this jurors reasoning.


fftobed: Just shoot me now or wake me up when it's well and truly over.

bbm

Greta made this comment right after talking about part 2 of his interview & right before CM was to come on after the break..Watching the repeat it appears she was referring to CM & not the mystery foreman afterall..I wish I could see a clip to confirm..Link?

eta..link in post above (TY!) but it ends before this comment.

 

[Emma Peel]

At the end of the day, IMO the jurors were likely truthful when they said they only followed the case "somewhat" in the news.

Jose planted reasonable doubt about George in the jury's mind. Likely, the jury's George was a different George than I observed. The jury and I do not know George in the same context. The George the jury knew, was the OS George. They studied on the stand through Jose's OS prism.

Had they watched this story daily while George searched for Caylee, had they seen George sit with LE and be interviewed early on, had they understood the depth of Cindy's denial and her capacity to mislead and misdirect, ... they could not have reached the verdict they did.

Based on the time I spent watching this case unfold, I would have been disqualified from the jury. Because of that entire family, the only one I've ever wanted to (could stomach) listen to was ...

George.

Did the PT do everything possible to make the "George did it" an unreasonable doubt? Could they have done more? (Those are just rhetorical questions...obviously.)

JMHO

 

[tehcloser]

I have to keep reminding myself that while NG clearly believes Casey is guilty regarding Caylee, she also believes Ron (Cummings) is not guilty regarding Haleigh.

OCSO had a body. And a jury trial. And couldn't convict Caylee's mom.

PCSO has no body. Yet PCSO managed to get Ron, Misty & Tommy behind bars for 25+ yrs for dealing pills on tape. In a no-jury plead.

Moral of these two stories? :waitasec:

:dunno:

You can get away with killing your kid and lying about it, but you can't get away with killing your kid, lying about it, AND dealing drugs.

 

[Nefriahaia]

I have to keep reminding myself that while NG clearly believes Casey is guilty regarding Caylee, she also believes Ron (Cummings) is not guilty regarding Haleigh.

OCSO had a body. And a jury trial. And couldn't convict Caylee's mom.

PCSO has no body. Yet PCSO managed to get Ron, Misty & Tommy behind bars for 25+ yrs for dealing pills on tape. In a no-jury plead.

Moral of these two stories? :waitasec:

:dunno:

It's NOT OVER til it's OVER. She'll mess up down the road and end up facing justice.

 

[amysmom]

VAN SUSTEREN: Raised questions about his character, or whether he had some involvement in the death of his granddaughter?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Really both for me, character as far as the fact that he could be possibly lying. Also, the fact that his involvement was going to be in question because he was there on the 15th. He was the -- you know, he can tell you exactly when Casey and Caylee left. How do we know that that is -- that that is right? So it questioned a lot for us. It really questioned a lot.

VAN SUSTEREN: To the point where he would let his daughter face the possibility of execution?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I really can't answer that question, but it was -- you know, it was something that we felt, you know, we need to take a close look at with George.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did anybody think George was a believable, out of the 12 you? Anyone thing George was believable or credible, or were otherwise likewise suspicious of him?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was a suspicion of him. That as -- that was a part of our conversation that we had of the -- well, what I'd call the round robin topics that we had when we were doing deliberation. That was brought up.

VAN SUSTEREN: Suspicious that he was involved in covering up the death, suspicious involved with the -- an accidental death, or suspicious he was a murder?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All three.

VAN SUSTEREN: Really, that he was a murderer?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All three. We don't know. We don't know. The suspicions were raised.

VAN SUSTEREN: In the deliberation room?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We talked about it in deliberation. Yes, I can go a little more in depth into what we did in the deliberation room since I was the one who had to orchestrate the whole situation.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-th...e-and-suspicions-george-anthony#ixzz1Rtm0Q7GL

It should've been the state vs GA from all he's saying here..Get the date (16th) right at least..Geez Louise! He freely admits he "orchestrated" the deliberations..Is that really the job of the foreman?