2015.08.27 Curtis Wayne Wright: Charged with Murder in the 2nd Degree

[Eileen730]

Since he did so well, I hope his new wife, friend of 20 years doesn't have to work either.

She has had a tragic life tho I feel bad for her.
Tragedy abounds when WW is near.

 

[Eileen730]

Can someone tell me what CW was caught with or doing that deems him a meth manufacturer. Some meth heads make small batches in a soda bottle. But i wouldn't deem them as manufacturers.

How many ounces or pounds was CW producing? I only heard of him being caught with a scale , gun and 3 vials of meth. So where is this big manufacturing king pin come into play?

Well the scale and the gun are a few hints!
IMO he had minions do his work for him!

JR might be one of them

 

[DexterMorgan]

funny LOL I think there is lots!

Agree. Meth is like cocaine. But you do not need to live in Central America to make it. Most of the ingredients are easily accessible. So meth is very profitable. Just like cocaine or crack.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Well the scale and the gun are a few hints!
IMO he had minions do his work for him!

JR might be one of them

But 3 vials and scale are not manufacturing proof. Maybe small time dealer proof. But how do we know that he was cooking enough meth to be considered a manufacturer.

If you are cooking less than a quarter of an ounce. That is not considered to be a manufacturer.

So possessing a jug of homemade lemonade doesn't make someone a lemonade manufacturer.

 

[DexterMorgan]

She has had a tragic life tho I feel bad for her.
Tragedy abounds when WW is near.

Agreed totally. She has been through so much. And that C sucker knew it. So why put her through the possibility of getting hurt again. Especially 40 days after the actual wedding ceremony.

 

[Sunkist]

Can someone tell me what CW was caught with or doing that deems him a meth manufacturer. Some meth heads make small batches in a soda bottle. But i wouldn't deem them as manufacturers.

How many ounces or pounds was CW producing? I only heard of him being caught with a scale , gun and 3 vials of meth. So where is this big manufacturing king pin come into play?

I'm not sure he was manufacturing, but the reason it comes up is the 12/8/10 St Gen arrest. Original charges were (count 1) manufacturing; (count 2) possession; (count 3) possess of meth precursor w/ intent to mfg; (counts 4-9) possession of chemicals with intent to mfg; (count 10) possess of drug paraphernalia.

I believe that is also when he took officers to a meth lab on the same street where he lived- could be his own place, but I don't think that is specified.

CWW pled guilty to possession, all other charges were dropped. So maybe he never did mfg.

(Casenet case 10SG-CR00901-01)


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[Lilibet]

But 3 vials and scale are not manufacturing proof. Maybe small time dealer proof. But how do we know that he was cooking enough meth to be considered a manufacturer.

If you are cooking less than a quarter of an ounce. That is not considered to be a manufacturer.

So possessing a jug of homemade lemonade doesn't make someone a lemonade manufacturer.

I'll have to ruin my manicure, Madge, and go digging, but didn't Skinner say that CWW was cooking meth in a place he rented from MS? Does anyone have this info handy?

 

[beach]

IIRC, CWW was employed by ic-all through 2002-2009. In 2010, we know he arrested for meth, so I'm going to guess the warning from MS was around this time. CWW was listed as CTO (chief technology officer) and PARTNER of Rali Enterprises, Inc., parent corporation of ic-all.com, 2002-2005. In 2005, CWW was removed from the ic-all website management page as CTO.

ChildStarCam was an ic-all product during between 2002-2005. "ChildStarCam On-site and remote monitoring for schools. Parents access secure, full motion video broadcast of their children playing and learning at preschool." anic:

Feb 2003
Wayne Wright
Chief Technology Officer / Partner
RALI Enterprises

As Chief Technology Officer of RALI Enterprises, Wayne Wright plays an integral role in upholding the company's philosophy of bringing the latest in high-tech surveillance equipment to commercial and residential customers. His career, which spans 15 years, has been dedicated to the development of interactive software and web applications and includes audio, video and computer programming. His expertise led to writing, developing and manufacturing software for our company's video encoding system for secure, real-time full motion video with synchronized audio over the Internet.

Early in his career, Wright achieved several notable successes that showcase his ability to harness the power and flexibility of the computer environment:

In 1986, Wright was at the forefront of the developing field of interactive multimedia when he married then-new touch-screen technology with laser disk players and custom software for Sony Corporation. The result was Sony's Interactive Travel Guide, which used the first touch-screen controller as part of an interactive travel experience in kiosks and travel agencies across the nation.

In 1995, Wright co-wrote content and programmed "Apollo 13: A Week to Remember," an award-winning edutainment CD-ROM. The CD, the first of its kind to be produced in the Midwest, employed a hybrid disc technology that allowed it to be run on both Macs and PCs while sharing all the media and content files including over 73 minutes of running video.

In 2000, Wright created an internationally distributed patent pending commercial web application allowing fully interactive dynamic e-commerce web sites to be created in minutes for the restaurant industry.
Wright is a master of numerous software packages, operating systems and programming languages. He has worked in various capacities with several St. Louis-area companies, including Hytech Interactive, Intelligent Technology, Odyssey Interactive Inc., Anheuser-Busch, Inc., Multi-Media Solutions and Build-A-Bear Workshops.


April 2003
Wayne Wright, Chief Technology Officer
Wright's primary responsibility is to develop and communicate ic-all.com's strategy and vision for the surveillance industry. He manages overall R&D and our engineering organization. Wright continues to
pioneer in the creation and manufacturing of technology products for our company to bring to market.
Wright's reputation in the industry presents him with opportunities to teach classes on integrated software and speak to industry leaders on advanced technologies, showcasing ic-all.com's products and services.

http://web.archive.org/web/20031213055905/http://childstarcam.com/management_team.html

April 2004 (ic-all)
Wayne Wright, Chief Technology Officer
Wright’s primary responsibility is to develop and communicate ic-all.com’s strategy and vision for the surveillance and remote broadcasting industry. He manages overall research and development, and our engineering organization.

An expert in network development and multimedia applications, Wright is responsible for developing ic-all.com’s vision for using multimedia technologies and the Internet to enhance business communications, security, and surveillance. He is responsible for the design, development and operations of ic-all.com’s services, technologies and network. Wright continues to pioneer in the creation and manufacturing of technology products for our company to bring to market.

Wright has more than 15 years of experience designing, developing and managing complex real-time software systems in a variety of sectors. As a senior software and systems engineer, he leads a team of forward-looking engineers in the design and development of systems that manage dynamic data in real time.

First and foremost -

KUDOS TO YOU creepingskills!!! Great sleuthing! :bowdown:

Thank you for sharing! :blowkiss:

 

[Sunkist]

I'll have to ruin my manicure, Madge, and go digging, but didn't Skinner say that CWW was cooking meth in a place he rented from MS? Does anyone have this info handy?

Yes, he did say that. I just re-read that thread. Don't remember the post number, though.


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[debbiegarcia36]

CWW is an interesting guy (evil but interesting) a drug addict who started manufacturing his own meth. He probably had dealers working for him (JR comes to mind) for extra income. Intelligent enough to work as high level employee and consultant in the IT field for several years. So given all this, one would think he would have plenty of money, but he lives quite modestly in a trailer with his new wife. I wonder why he didn't buy a house during his heyday of high earnings.

The fact that he is a POI in another murder, and also "retired" at a very early age, only adds to the complexity of trying to figure him out. For someone that seemingly had a bright future, he ruined everything, and he didn't just have one isolated criminal charge against him - he had several (and that's only the times he got caught). Could he have some kind of mental disorder?

Not a mental disorder but a narcissistic personality disorder.

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[Sunkist]

I'll have to ruin my manicure, Madge, and go digging, but didn't Skinner say that CWW was cooking meth in a place he rented from MS? Does anyone have this info handy?

Snipped from the Skinner thread, post 146 (by skinner)

3) You'll find this to be interesting: One of the properties that you sleuths found out that MS owned in Fenton, MO, was a house that MS rented to WW at one time, and when MS found out that WW was dealing or making (I really do not remember which) meth out of his (MS) house, he told WW "You gotta go, and now."

WW respected MS wishes, and moved.

If I recall, MS told me "Skinner, in drug deals, they confiscate the house, regardless of the owner not being in the house, and I'm not taking any chances. I need the rent money to make the mortgage on that house."

So actually it says "dealing or making."

 

[debbiegarcia36]

This raises a question for me, I know he was charged with possession and later manufacturing, but do we have any indication he's actually an addict? As in, has to take hard drugs regularly?

There are people who murder under the influence of drugs, usually to get hold of more money. But this seems more carefully planned than one usually sees from an addict, and he didn't get any money out of it, directly anyway.

IMO, CWW is a drug user not an addict. I also think he's an opportunist. He'll doing anything for money. JMO



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[DexterMorgan]

I'll have to ruin my manicure, Madge, and go digging, but didn't Skinner say that CWW was cooking meth in a place he rented from MS? Does anyone have this info handy?

Lol. Thanks. I will pay for the next manicure and bottle of dish soap.

I totally forgot about the Skinner thread.

 

[beach]

Your husband can roll his eyes all he likes, but the bio that was posted is true. Every word of it, and then some.

Kudos go to creepingskills for finding CWW's bio. And thanks to Skinner (verified insider) for confirming the truth of CWW's bio that creepingskills found.

Bear with me because the first part of my post is an Admin Note so that everyone is clear about what it means when we verify insiders.

When we verify insiders we only verify who they say they are and, to the best of our ability, confirm their insider status. IOW, provide proof that you actually know this person as intimately as you claim. This is done is a number of ways but almost always requires a photo ID and some other form of proof confirming the relationship. I will vouch that Tricia personally has verified every single insider in this case and she has been extremely particular and vigilant about the proof. (Especially particular as to confirming the relationship as purported by the person seeking to be verified - in this case, Skinner's relationship with Mark.) As Tricia pointed out during her interview with Sheriff Mike Scott, this is the internet and short of hiring a professional private detective, we do the best we can. But be assured, this ain't our first rodeo. The requirements for becoming a verified insider have become far tougher over the past year.

What we DO NOT DO is vouch for the accuracy or truthfulness of the information shared by verified insiders. That is strictly up to each member to decide for themselves how much credibility and weight to give the information provided by the insider. I am saying this because I want to make it clear that just because Skinner confirmed the accuracy of CWW's bio/resume, that does not make it a FACT. In fact, NOTHING any insider claims anywhere is to be considered a FACT. It may very well be, but WS does not consider all information shared by verified insiders meets the threshold to be considered factual.


Okay, enough of that admin stuff. On to my own personal observations and opinions -

Skinner, I'm sure you can understand why we are incredulous about the self-proclaimed accomplishments of a teenager in 1986. Would you mind elaborating on your statement that every word is true and then some? Thanks.

I do believe that CWW built a website and, IIRC, maybe an interactive kiosk-type thing for Build-A-Bear because I actually read that on an MSM link several weeks ago. That was the first hint that I knew he had worked for a national brand company. fwiw, that same link confirmed Build-A-Bear fired him. (Guys, I promise to dig up that link and edit to add it here. I read it quite a while ago but I'll find it again.) I tend to believe that bio/resume has kernels of truth but is embellished greatly. I'd have to know someone vetted every single reference for me to believe all that is claimed.

It appears to me that Skinner is a kind person who is reluctant to think poorly of anyone, and who will accept at face value the statements of his friends.

I don't fault him for that, most of us accept our friends as they present themselves.

I'm sure this is a difficult time for him.

<insert peas & carrots emoticon>


In closing, IT is a unique field. If one is bright, skilled and has the will to learn it they can be self-taught to do a LOT. And if they have any formal education, the better. My son-in-law has his masters in IT but he will be the first to tell you that there are many hackers that know how to do things he doesn't know how to do. (Not selling my SIL short because he is brilliant, but he has no desire to use his knowledge or skills in an unsavory way. He's one of the best people I know.) I personally believe CWW is very, very bright and skilled when it comes to internet/computer technology. He doesn't have to have a college degree for me to believe he is extremely skilled. Unfortunately, I don't believe he has always used those skills in a honorable fashion. In fact, I believe he has used those skills in many an unsavory, if not criminal, fashion. JMHO

 

[Dion]

This raises a question for me, I know he was charged with possession and later manufacturing, but do we have any indication he's actually an addict? As in, has to take hard drugs regularly?

There are people who murder under the influence of drugs, usually to get hold of more money. But this seems more carefully planned than one usually sees from an addict, and he didn't get any money out of it, directly anyway.

I don't know if he is an addict or not, so perhaps I should have said "drug user". But meth is very addictive, and I see him as being someone who used it, and then figured he could make it himself and save money. The fact that he was in possession of it at a fairly late age, indicates to me that he had been using for years. MOO

Whether this has anything to do with the murder or not, I have no idea. He has a very chequered history, that's for sure.

 

[FelicityLemon]

You are so right! I remember 20 years ago while using PhotoShop (About Photoshop and the opening splash had an easter egg) a loooong list of people including engineers, quality assurance engineers who worked to get it running. I just now checked again (CS6) and the same thing: dozens of untitled contributors, engineers, quality engineers, technical writers, marketing peeps, evangelism, numerous other job descrip titles (and even the grand poobah) named both for the U.S., China, India, Japan...even the engineering interns are named! I always thought it was so cool of Adobe. I still do.

My patent search turned up nothing as well. Note though, the bio says "patent pending" which IMO, is further evidence of "puffing", CWW has not one patent.



In my experience, employees (usually engineers) who are working for a large tech corporation and contribute to patents in the course of their employment, are named "inventors' on the patent. Always. It doesn't matter if they are an independent contractor or employee, the inventor/author/engineer always gets credit. Ownership/Licensing rights are not determined by who is named as an inventor on the patent. The corporation owns the intellectual property because whatever was invented, legally speaking, ia a 'work for hire". If CWW invented or co-invented anything that was patented, or even PENDING at the USPTO, it would be public record even if he was technically "working" for another entity.

A simple peak at any Apple or big tech company patent would confirm ^. Inventors are always named, and being named has zero affect on ownership and subsequent licensing of the patent because the inventors were employees or contracted by Apple.

 

[FelicityLemon]

BBM

OT:
:loveyou: Oh! I'm so glad to see that someone else uses that expression when things are out of control!

Also, is anyone else reading "SpeedEmenu" as "SpeedEmu"? We used have a herd of emus around WS. But I digress.

Me, too, lol! DH always looks at me sideways when I say it lol.

 

[FelicityLemon]

LOL you need to see some of the mobile home parks here in florida. Many are gated communities and are simply beautiful.

I think he was stashing his money and living way under his means. Maybe not to pay taxes.
I wonder if he has money in the Bahamas lol

Agree with you on both counts. There are mobile/manufactured homes (similar renaming as "pre-owned" vehicles) that not only cost over 1m, but space rent can be well over 2400/month depending on location and park itself.

Lots of smart people (up for debate re: CCW at this point) live below their means. I used to live in a beach resort town and some of the derelict-looking and occasionally smelly men (some women, too) were ultra wealthy. Secure in themselves to not have to be flashy. I love that. Watched a 20/20 or Dateline last night and the baby was named Giorgio Armani, no kidding. Psychic scam family, natch.

http://www.laweekly.com/arts/louis-...h-bags-machine-guns-and-tattooed-pigs-2370850

 

[FelicityLemon]

But 3 vials and scale are not manufacturing proof. Maybe small time dealer proof. But how do we know that he was cooking enough meth to be considered a manufacturer.

If you are cooking less than a quarter of an ounce. That is not considered to be a manufacturer.

So possessing a jug of homemade lemonade doesn't make someone a lemonade manufacturer.

At least one of the articles that have been posted here listed what they found at the home: equipment, ingredients, packaging. No mention of how large or small scale it was, but I'm leaning towards small. If they thought it was large scale, I don't want to believe he was offered a plea of lesser charges.

 

[Lilibet]

Snipped from the Skinner thread, post 146 (by skinner)

3) You'll find this to be interesting: One of the properties that you sleuths found out that MS owned in Fenton, MO, was a house that MS rented to WW at one time, and when MS found out that WW was dealing or making (I really do not remember which) meth out of his (MS) house, he told WW "You gotta go, and now."

WW respected MS wishes, and moved.

If I recall, MS told me "Skinner, in drug deals, they confiscate the house, regardless of the owner not being in the house, and I'm not taking any chances. I need the rent money to make the mortgage on that house."

So actually it says "dealing or making."

Thanks for digging that up Sunkist. So we don't know for sure if he was making meth in the house he rented from MS. Either way, what a crummy thing to do to a friend!

Lol. Thanks. I will pay for the next manicure and bottle of dish soap.

I totally forgot about the Skinner thread.

You're off the hook, Dex. Sunkist saved my virtual manicure, by doing the digging for me while I ate lunch.