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I came to this thread to say FINALLY CWW did something (w)right!
2015.08.27 Curtis Wayne Wright: Charged with Murder in the 2nd Degree
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I know this all old news, but I wrote most of it awhile back. I put a lot of thought into it, so if you will kindly read if for no other reason than to just appease me, I will appreciate it :blush:
I can't seem to get over the fact that CWW told so many people he was going the the Sievers house to work on their computer the weekend TS was murdered.
These are the people he told, and maybe the "why's"
1. AW ~ married for only 2 months, still "inseparable." Where else could he say he was going that wouldn't make her suspicious of maybe cheating?
2. RW ~ Needed Adderall. Angie's brother, so he had to tell him the place he told AW.
3. JL ~
CWW owed him a lot of work, in exchange for all the money, and expensive items CWW weaseled out of this 78 yr. old trusting, and gullible man. CWW and JL went into Lubinski's office together before his FL trip. In my mind CWW wanted to get out of the earshot of Sundaye and Angie, so he couldborrow HAVE more money from Jerry.
I know MS sent him money but CWW could have already offered JR some money upfront, making CWW short on the money he would need to return back to "comfort" his BFF on July 1st. Plus to keep Angie happy and :shutup: a little more honeymoon $ for them on the way back home. Mark more than likely gave CWW some additional cash as well during his trip back to console him.
4. Chris Taylor ~ June 24
Not sure how or why he knew, but this one is the most interesting one to me. He seems to be the very 1st one to know, or that has agreed to be interviewed anyway. Someone else had to tell him, because he sent a text to CWW Wednesday on the morning of June 24, and he had already heard about the FL trip.
Chris Taylor texts Curtis and asks, You all going to Florida?? and Curtis responds_____ Chris then asks "Going tomorrow" and Curtis replies____ Chris continues, What part of Florida" to which Curtis replies____ The last part of this conversation has Chris asking, Possibly need company'? Proliy couldn't anyway but just got me daydreaming". Curtis does not respond.
From CWW interview
On July 12 he told investigators he was home from Friday, June 26 through Monday, June 29. He said on June 26 he worked on a friends car. He said that the friend, Chris Taylor, helped him on Saturday. He said the work made him ill and he rested in bed from that afternoon through Monday evening
JL knew on Thursday June 25, 2015
RW on June 26, in the afternoon hours. Wideman also stated that Curtis Wayne Wright noted he was going to Florida alone
Chris Taylor Thursday June24, 2015
AW says Friday, June 26
Angela tells her mom and (CTW) that CWW told her on Friday June 26, that he was leaving on Saturday June 27, 2015 for an unplanned short notice trip to perform computer work at MS's house in Bonita Springs. AW has also said CWW was going by himself.
The brothers had no plan B, it never dawned on them they would be caught. Why NOT tell people where he is going?
1. No one knew anything about the Sievers going to New York. I'm sure they all assumed CWW would be there with his BFF the whole time and that Mark and Teresa would BOTH be home.
2. He just couldn't believe it when Scott called him on Tuesday to tell him Teresa was killed on MONDAY.
Teresa was fine when he left early Sunday morning to drive home, the whole family was fine!
3. Horrific murders happen very single day...we just don't hear about them.
Now think about this. IF National News hadn't picked up this brutal murder, could these perps have gotten away with it ? Maybe. We then factor in no help from CTW who's information led them straight to Curtis Wayne Wright. With her tip, LE was also able to interview several
people in Missouri. When LE first interviewed CWW, his own mouth gave LE 2 more people to interview....his made up "alibi's" led them to speak with JL ( Antique's for Jerry in Florida) and Chris Taylor (working on car for Chris that Saturday)
Both said he was NOT working for them that weekend, but instead he told them he was going to the Sievers in FL that weekend to work on their computer. CWW "forgot" to tell them they were his alibi's.
Jimmy Rodgers was later added in after LE went thru the GPS found that was found in the funeral car rental. JR's plugged in his own email into the GPS.
^^
But again if they had no CTW, would LE have been able to execute a search warrant soon enough to have that 2nd rental car there waiting for them parked at CWW's trailer with the GPS inside?
I'm not so sure, because even with the evidence they DID have when they raided his trailer, they kept him for like 12 hours(?) and then the "warrant fell thru" --- Which I TOOK that as meaning there was not enough evidence to arrest him. < I could be completely wrong on the actual meaning. :blush:
What about no national news coverage and not a peep from AW to her mother about CWW? (This is the brothers thought pattern...Plan A)
I just feel like there was no plan B because they never imagined it would be all over the national news. In their minds, CWW would be the one to tell (the people/friends) what and when his BFF's wife was murdered...or not. How could they know anything about it unless CWW himself told them?
Since it didn't quite happen like plan A
CWW then told JL on July, 11th that it was him and MS that found the FRONT door broken into, and THEY were the ones who found TS. :crazy: Was this going to be his CWW's new lie to everyone he knew in Missouri? He's always a hero, doncha know.
The Teresa Sievers we've all grown to know and love :heartbeat: was right.
Everything happens for a divine reason and in divine order
I can't seem to get over the fact that CWW told so many people he was going the the Sievers house to work on their computer the weekend TS was murdered.
These are the people he told, and maybe the "why's"
1. AW ~ married for only 2 months, still "inseparable." Where else could he say he was going that wouldn't make her suspicious of maybe cheating?
2. RW ~ Needed Adderall. Angie's brother, so he had to tell him the place he told AW.
3. JL ~
CWW owed him a lot of work, in exchange for all the money, and expensive items CWW weaseled out of this 78 yr. old trusting, and gullible man. CWW and JL went into Lubinski's office together before his FL trip. In my mind CWW wanted to get out of the earshot of Sundaye and Angie, so he could
I know MS sent him money but CWW could have already offered JR some money upfront, making CWW short on the money he would need to return back to "comfort" his BFF on July 1st. Plus to keep Angie happy and :shutup: a little more honeymoon $ for them on the way back home. Mark more than likely gave CWW some additional cash as well during his trip back to console him.
4. Chris Taylor ~ June 24
Not sure how or why he knew, but this one is the most interesting one to me. He seems to be the very 1st one to know, or that has agreed to be interviewed anyway. Someone else had to tell him, because he sent a text to CWW Wednesday on the morning of June 24, and he had already heard about the FL trip.
Chris Taylor texts Curtis and asks, You all going to Florida?? and Curtis responds_____ Chris then asks "Going tomorrow" and Curtis replies____ Chris continues, What part of Florida" to which Curtis replies____ The last part of this conversation has Chris asking, Possibly need company'? Proliy couldn't anyway but just got me daydreaming". Curtis does not respond.
From CWW interview
On July 12 he told investigators he was home from Friday, June 26 through Monday, June 29. He said on June 26 he worked on a friends car. He said that the friend, Chris Taylor, helped him on Saturday. He said the work made him ill and he rested in bed from that afternoon through Monday evening
JL knew on Thursday June 25, 2015
RW on June 26, in the afternoon hours. Wideman also stated that Curtis Wayne Wright noted he was going to Florida alone
Chris Taylor Thursday June24, 2015
AW says Friday, June 26
Angela tells her mom and (CTW) that CWW told her on Friday June 26, that he was leaving on Saturday June 27, 2015 for an unplanned short notice trip to perform computer work at MS's house in Bonita Springs. AW has also said CWW was going by himself.
The brothers had no plan B, it never dawned on them they would be caught. Why NOT tell people where he is going?
1. No one knew anything about the Sievers going to New York. I'm sure they all assumed CWW would be there with his BFF the whole time and that Mark and Teresa would BOTH be home.
2. He just couldn't believe it when Scott called him on Tuesday to tell him Teresa was killed on MONDAY.
Teresa was fine when he left early Sunday morning to drive home, the whole family was fine!
3. Horrific murders happen very single day...we just don't hear about them.
Now think about this. IF National News hadn't picked up this brutal murder, could these perps have gotten away with it ? Maybe. We then factor in no help from CTW who's information led them straight to Curtis Wayne Wright. With her tip, LE was also able to interview several
people in Missouri. When LE first interviewed CWW, his own mouth gave LE 2 more people to interview....his made up "alibi's" led them to speak with JL ( Antique's for Jerry in Florida) and Chris Taylor (working on car for Chris that Saturday)
Both said he was NOT working for them that weekend, but instead he told them he was going to the Sievers in FL that weekend to work on their computer. CWW "forgot" to tell them they were his alibi's.
Jimmy Rodgers was later added in after LE went thru the GPS found that was found in the funeral car rental. JR's plugged in his own email into the GPS.
^^
But again if they had no CTW, would LE have been able to execute a search warrant soon enough to have that 2nd rental car there waiting for them parked at CWW's trailer with the GPS inside?
I'm not so sure, because even with the evidence they DID have when they raided his trailer, they kept him for like 12 hours(?) and then the "warrant fell thru" --- Which I TOOK that as meaning there was not enough evidence to arrest him. < I could be completely wrong on the actual meaning. :blush:
What about no national news coverage and not a peep from AW to her mother about CWW? (This is the brothers thought pattern...Plan A)
I just feel like there was no plan B because they never imagined it would be all over the national news. In their minds, CWW would be the one to tell (the people/friends) what and when his BFF's wife was murdered...or not. How could they know anything about it unless CWW himself told them?
Since it didn't quite happen like plan A
CWW then told JL on July, 11th that it was him and MS that found the FRONT door broken into, and THEY were the ones who found TS. :crazy: Was this going to be his CWW's new lie to everyone he knew in Missouri? He's always a hero, doncha know.
The Teresa Sievers we've all grown to know and love :heartbeat: was right.
Everything happens for a divine reason and in divine order
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Yes. Great post. Enjoyed reading!! Definitely not a plan B.
Dmacky,
You did a great job putting together the strange actions of CWW.
CWW almost appears to have several voices competing inside his head. Somehow the intelligent family voice that quite a few people have shared with us was totally overridden by some bizarre friendship voice. CWW's need to be important in MS's eyes was so great he was willing to murder.
CWW's brain is fraught with confusion and the bad parts won. The very weak intelligent voice though did show up again to accept this plea deal.
You did a great job putting together the strange actions of CWW.
CWW almost appears to have several voices competing inside his head. Somehow the intelligent family voice that quite a few people have shared with us was totally overridden by some bizarre friendship voice. CWW's need to be important in MS's eyes was so great he was willing to murder.
CWW's brain is fraught with confusion and the bad parts won. The very weak intelligent voice though did show up again to accept this plea deal.
From all appearances, his "intelligent voice" allowed him to plea to much reduced sentences in the past. The intelligent voice only seems to appear when he needs to limit the damage after being caught, and he deserves no credit for it.
No Maxine, your not. I think we are all on information overload!
It was in the document dump we received in December. However, now I can't remember if we have the actual interview (I think we do) or If I just read it in an article.
Here is the brunt of it.
hmm But if "authoritah's" redacted Wrights interview, I guess we don't have it? IDK :crazy: I thought for sure that all of his interview wasn't redacted, just certain parts. I guess I would be wrong. (it would not be the 1st time)
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Authorities redacted Wright’s initial interview with detectives from court documents. The documents stated that Wright “became nervous” when detectives told him about their evidence, including text messages between him and Mark Sievers using different phones to communicate with each other, his wife placing him in Florida during the time of the killing and leaving his cell phone at home.
“Sergeant Lebid again explained to Curtis that if his friend Mark Sievers intentionally involved Curtis in a crime that Curtis didn’t plan, then now was the time to explain that situation,” the documents said. “Curtis stated he wanted to stop talking for now.”
http://www.winknews.com/2015/12/01/sievers-husbands-involvement-suspected-in-wifes-murder/
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No Maxine, your not. I think we are all on information overload!
It was in the document dump we received in December. However, now I can't remember if we have the actual interview (I think we do) or If I just read it in an article.
Here is the brunt of it.
hmm But if "authoritah's" redacted Wrights interview, I guess we don't have it? IDK :crazy: I thought for sure that all of his interview wasn't redacted, just certain parts. I guess I would be wrong. (it would not be the 1st time)
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Authorities redacted Wright’s initial interview with detectives from court documents. The documents stated that Wright “became nervous” when detectives told him about their evidence, including text messages between him and Mark Sievers using different phones to communicate with each other, his wife placing him in Florida during the time of the killing and leaving his cell phone at home.
“Sergeant Lebid again explained to Curtis that if his friend Mark Sievers intentionally involved Curtis in a crime that Curtis didn’t plan, then now was the time to explain that situation,” the documents said. “Curtis stated he wanted to stop talking for now.”
http://www.winknews.com/2015/12/01/sievers-husbands-involvement-suspected-in-wifes-murder/
We don't have his interview. There is some summarization of it in the investigative report.
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Great summary, Dmacky. Thank you...
Unreal how these two, CWW especially, didn't think twice about spilling his plans to be at the Seivers' the weekend of the murder. BUT- I really think MS was trying to take advantage of the recent deaths of other holistic doctors around the country to make TS's appear to be related in some way. Now, I believe it has been determined at least one of those was a suicide, but MS most likely didn't know that at the time.
My point is they should have known the murder was going to garner at least some widespread coverage based on the holistic part only. Heck, that's how I heard about it.... through a group that discusses natural alternatives to mainstream pharmaceuticals. It peaked my interest because I have a family condo in Naples.
Like just about every other aspect of this "plan" (if it can be called a plan, really), they underestimated the news coverage of her murder.
I'll bet all 3 of these murderers were really pi$$ed off at each other when they were caught. Not exactly the :gathering: they anticipated at all. I can just see them all pointing fingers at each other.
MS ~
WHY in the hell did CWW hire that big mouth Jimmy? He knows I hate that little punk that stole my parking space at his wedding. And then Jimmy's big mouth goes and tells his GF, who then tells LE all about everything! And why did he have to tell Angela where he was going? Seriously? The best he could come up with was he was driving to Florida to MY HOUSE to fix MY computer????
It's all his fault this went down
CWW ~
HUH? My brother looked me straight in the eyes and told me he had a 2.5 million dollar life insurance policy and he would SPLIT it equally with me, giving me 1.25 million. NOW I find out he actually had almost 5 million dollars worth of life insurance?
So, I let me get this straight in my bald head :thinking: I was gonna get one million and he still would have gotten close to 4?
It's all Marks fault this even happened
Here I did my brother a solid and after his planning, his only part was taking a vacation?
OH NO YOU DIDN'T. I'm telling on him right now!
JR's ~
I drew the GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL CARD!
Do not pass go
Do not collect 10k
MS ~
WHY in the hell did CWW hire that big mouth Jimmy? He knows I hate that little punk that stole my parking space at his wedding. And then Jimmy's big mouth goes and tells his GF, who then tells LE all about everything! And why did he have to tell Angela where he was going? Seriously? The best he could come up with was he was driving to Florida to MY HOUSE to fix MY computer????
It's all his fault this went down
CWW ~
HUH? My brother looked me straight in the eyes and told me he had a 2.5 million dollar life insurance policy and he would SPLIT it equally with me, giving me 1.25 million. NOW I find out he actually had almost 5 million dollars worth of life insurance?
So, I let me get this straight in my bald head :thinking: I was gonna get one million and he still would have gotten close to 4?
It's all Marks fault this even happened
Here I did my brother a solid and after his planning, his only part was taking a vacation?
OH NO YOU DIDN'T. I'm telling on him right now!
JR's ~
I drew the GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL CARD!
Do not pass go
Do not collect 10k
JR's last lingering thought, "and all I got was this crappy t-shirt"
:judge: :banghead:
LOL...But then he had to throw his Florida "crappy t-shirt" in the dumpster.
He fought the law and the won.
Is anyone else's text centered???
It's driving me nuts, because it's distracting to me.
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hi ya'll, i got a quick question. i'm just starting going over this case (i'm on page 2 and getting closer to current threads) and was wondering if there had been more talk of CWW and the bolin case? i thought that was interesting to read that there was speculation about CWW and Bolin. Hope im not stepping on toes by asking this question. :innocent:
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From my understanding, no new news on the Bolin case.
It has been speculated around here that MS just might have a little dirt on CWW in that regard and play a little tit for tat- especially after CWW ratted MS out for the TS murder.
It makes sense MS might have some 'inside scoop' on the RB issue, otherwise, what in the world would make him think his dear, life long friend - his brother from another mother- would participate in something so sinister as a brutal and fatal attack on his BFF's wife? It isn't every day we approach our nearest and dearest friend, out of the blue, and suggest they murder our spouse in exchange for a piece of the 4.3 million dollar life insurance policy.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if, in the end, MS strikes back at CWW by implicating him in the RB murder. But as always, this is MOO.
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I hope that MS does tell about RB's murder so that RB's family can have closure and there is justice for RB.
MrsArk, I always find your posts not only enlightening but with a genuine thoughtfulness for others. You have a way of speaking with kindness and that is always appreciated!
I hadn't thought of MS retaliating by telling LE about CWW's involvement with RB's murder (if true). It would end up being such a blessing for RB's family.
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Welcome jpo74!
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Thank you zen! Much appreciated! I really do hope RB's family will eventually get the truth about what happened to him. I can't imagine the not ever knowing....
If I was her, I'd file for an annulment and be done with him.