IMO, Pappa Rodger and the possibility that was BK's online username has been discussed here, but since there is no confirmation PR = BK, we can only speculate on connections that are reasonable and have a link from an approved MSM source.Are we allowed to discuss Pappa Rodgers? I interacted with him and he was ODD. I got the CREEPS immediately.
It depends, I am very sure that the prosecution has everything they need to win a guilty verdict, but…juries can be weird about the DP, especially when the defendant is white and intelligent. So the prosecution could take a plea if it’s life WO parole. I don’t think BK would necessarily be safe in prison, though. He will be a big fish in a small pond, and someone will want to Dahmer him. Plus, BK will have to starve or eat meat which brings me a small bit of joy.It was suggested by someone in the previous thread that it is too early to discuss an Alford plea. I would go much further and say that an Alford plea is a complete nonstarter.
It’s a plea bargain. It can’t happen without prosecution agreement.
Is there anyone here who actually believes that Bill Thompson would allow BK to enter such a plea and then for the rest of his life write prison letters and books extolling how he pled guilty because he had been framed, and moreover say that the prosecution had to know about the stitch-up because they let him allocute to being factually innocent?
I’m not saying any plea deal is impossible. (Although I think it very unlikely.)
My opinion is that a plea deal involving the Alford plea is as close to impossible as I can imagine. (Having proved himself in glittering style recently, schooling clearly has the skills to offer a more vibrant picture of this near impossibility.)
Bryan Kohberger’s family searched his car for evidence
Bryan Kohberger’s sister feared he was involved in Idaho murders
Sources told NBC’s Dateline that the accused killer’s family searched his white Hyundai Elantra for possible evidence of the Idaho college murderswww.independent.co.uk
Bryan Kohberger’s sister feared that her brother was involved in the stabbings of four University of Idaho students before police swooped on their parents’ home and arrested him for murder, according to a bombshell report.
Sources told NBC’s Dateline that one of the accused killer’s older siblings grew increasingly suspicious of her brother and his behaviour when the family gathered to spend the holidays together.
Her suspicions were so great that – at one point – several family members searched Mr Kohberger’s white Hyundai Elantra for possible evidence of the crime, they said.
Bryan Kohberger’s sister feared he could be involved in Idaho murders before sudden arrest
Sources told NBC’s Dateline that the accused killer’s family searched his white Hyundai Elantra for possible evidence of the crimenews.yahoo.com
But, during his time at home, his family members noticed that he was behaving somewhat bizarrely.
The source said that Mr Kohberger was constantly wearing latex gloves, including inside their own home.
One of his two older sisters began to wonder if he could have played a part in the murders – and, at one point, she raised her concerns with her other family members.
She “loudly pointed out” that, at the time of the murders, her brother was living just a few miles from the crime scene and that he drove a white Hyundai Elantra – the make and colour of vehicle at the centre of the investigation.
Along with his bizarre tendency to wear latex gloves at all times, she believed that the family should consider that Mr Kohberger might have killed the four victims, the source said.
Mr Kohberger’s father allegedly defended his son and insisted he could not have been involved.
But the concerns were clearly big enough for several of the family members to reportedly decide to search the 28-year-old’s vehicle to look for possible evidence.
The total population. 3% of the population has a diagnosis that causes symptoms of derealization and depersonalization.
It's probably higher. That's just the major diagnoses (VSS, schizophrenia, DID, DPDR). Estimates for schizophrenics, alone are between 1% and 3% of the human population. Most epidemiologists put it at around 1-2% for the Western cultures, some say 3% just for schizophrenia. Some studies say 1-2% for DID (i think it's closer to 1%). VSS is less than 1% (according to the research over time). DPDR is just under 2%. And that's not an exhaustive list. Nor are all these disorders chronic; some are intermittent, but I'm speaking of the percentage of the world's population who has the symptoms of depersonalization and derealization, because I believe many murderers and other violent offenders are in this state when they commit their crimes.
Roughly 200,000 Americans experience an episode of this on any given day. Stress and anxiety can trigger it. Some people find it so common in their lives, that it becomes ego syntonic (they view it as the normal state of affairs). Many, however, upon coming out of this state are alarmed and surprised (ego dystonic) at their own behavior.
Some researchers think that about half of Americans have had at least 1-2 episodes of this (often after a shocking or extremely startling event).
It is also associated with depression. But I mention it here because it is generally considered to be part of VSS.
Derealization has been described as viewing oneself and events around oneself as if in a movie, sometimes as if outside one's own body, but not necessarily. It can lead to a person speaking about themselves in the third person, or "narrating" events to themselves as they occur. Some sufferers believe they are in a dream.
IME and from my research.
Good point, @Derph, my thoughts go there too.IF that's the case BK was under surveillance at the time no? They should have observed the family searching the car. We'll likely never know until the case sees trial.
First the DNA is amplified. There are dozens of different algorithms for then analyzing the nucleotide sequences. Every living organism is a bit different from all other organisms. Obviously, a lot of DNA is shared among life forms (we are 60% the same as bananas; 99% the same as chimpanzees). So, the human genome project looks at the *other* genes to ascertain first that we're looking at a human. Each allele in the human genome is surrounded by nucleotides that are not part of the code - they tell us a lot, though (as they are not selected for and ride along in a population, helping us to distinguish ancestry).
So we look at the actual alleles. One would be the allele for hemoglobin which has about 500 variations worldwide. Most people have two different alleles there (one from mom, one from dad). All the similar alleles are looked at. It doesn't take long before we have an individual DNA analysis for a person. If we found 3 different alleles for this trait, it would mean that more than one individual was involved (having an extra chromosome is a serious problem and rarely results in normal physiology). Naturally, we'd want to see more than one example of this kind. Different algorithms are applied in different labs, but as the data comes in, we know how to string all the alleles together, because the human genome is well studied (we know the length and the basic codons that are essential to each allele - we look, again, at the uniquely human alleles, which are about 2700 alleles, each made up of thousands or hundreds of thousands of individual base pairs of nucleotides - you may have learned those as A,T, C and G). One gene can have up to 200 million bases. Others have only a few hundred. We look hard at those long ones.
We now know that all organisms have mutations - and at a higher rate than previously thought.
So, to make it brief: we look for alleles that are unique and we look for the complete genome through our knowledge of what an allele is and what so-called "junk DNA" is (the part that separates the alleles - although we now know that this DNA may actually provide certain instructions to the body). If we compare relatives, the average person is about 50% identical to their parents in overall allele function, but may have a single point mutation somewhere in these millions of bits of data. This person will pass that on to their own offspring - but a point mutation is likely to occur somewhere else. Many point mutations are neutral in the context of a long allele.
Siblings usually share 50% of those alleles. Half-siblings, about 25%. Two different humans will not have the exact same alleles. So looking for a second source of DNA means first making sure that the DNA Is completely mapped and that there are no more than 2 alleles per location. Three alleles that fit into a location (and remember, hundreds of thousands of alleles are known and in the algorithm already) is a sign that there's another contributor. Zero extra alleles means it all comes from one person - but even, then, there are second and third ways of checking to see that it's one individual.
Hope that helps. In Kohberger's case, I'd be so interested to see if he has any mutations in the area that controls the visual cortex (where VSS is thought to operate). Of the alleles that are unique to humans, a lot of them do have to do with the brain. Interestingly, alleles are used and reused in various combinations in many different body functions (so an unusual visual cortex allele might be associated with several different outcomes, in terms of physiological traits).
Certain regions of human DNA have such high variability (like the hemoglobin gene) that it's fairly easy to see whether just one human is involved; if it were only that one locus/allele, of course, the chances would be about 1 in 500 of uniqueness - but there are several other locations with even more alleles - even for eye color, there's not just one gene for brown eyes or blue eyes - there are way more for brown than for blue, but there are many for each of those; we also know exactly where to look within the context of bits of DNA for those alleles, even if the DNA is not in chromosomal form). So if we look at 2000 locations, with up to a power of 300-1000 (available alleles) we get a very large number: 2000 to the 300th power is huge). So, if even ONE stray allele (extra) is found in this area, one allele with a tiny difference from the two others expected - it's two people.
And the hemoglobin gene does not affect survival - each of those alleles is fine; but some are ancient (1 million years old - coming to us from a pre-human population) and some are relatively new ones (that is another way of estimating ancestry). Y chromosome is another interesting system, as it is a small, compact chromosome that is often found entire in a sample. Finding two different Y chromosomes in a sample means two different people.
HTH. I know it's long. What the computer does is insert its "knowledge" of both "junk" DNA and the human genome into the analysis of what is found on the swab. Most times, long bits of a chromosome are still intact, but even if not, the computer recognizes which allele goes where, as they serve no purpose in a living organism other than to keep the organism alive and to build the body structure we see with our eyes. Each location is slightly different, IOW; and then the alleles are different too.
MOO has to be some link to subpeona parents.
She was found 35 minutes from BKs parents home.
IMO, Pappa Rodger and the possibility that was BK's online username has been discussed here, but since there is no confirmation PR = BK, we can only speculate on connections that are reasonable and have a link from an approved MSM source.
Here is one (heavy.com was approved by Mods as a source a few months ago on this case, IIRC, hopefully that still stands, but I will self report my post to Mods to seek reapproval/clarification):
Pappa Rodger: Bryan Kohberger Theory on Idaho Murders Facebook Posts.
"The comments and questions posted by the now-deleted Pappa Rodger Facebook page have gone viral as people debate whether or not Pappa Rodger could have been Kohberger himself, with some people even creating Facebook groups into the unproven theory. Some people have called the comment poster Pappa Rodgers, Papa Rogers or Pappa Rogers, but screenshots show the writer used the name Pappa Rodger."
Personally, I believe the DP or LIPWP should be left to the victim's family to decide, not left in the hands of the prosecutor. IMO, I think 3 of the 4 families would agree to the DP.
IF that's the case BK was under surveillance at the time no? They should have observed the family searching the car. We'll likely never know until the case sees trial.
snipped for focus @10ofRods... Lee and la are plain in terms of how to pronounce! That's really too bad that the Gonçalves's were there and had that happen. ...
IMO.
Something made them look, IMO, and subpoena the parents.....MOOWas one of the ID cards in glove box this woman who was found deceased? Pure speculation and mooooo
I guess we're allowed to discuss Pappa Rodger(s) as allegedly being BK, since they are linked in MSM.Are we allowed to discuss Pappa Rodgers? I interacted with him and he was ODD. I got the CREEPS immediately.
Hi, I’m not verified yet (I submitted a request), so you can take this answer on DNA mixtures as just my opinionI appreciate these discussions & the opportunity to learn!
For me, the single source male DNA on the sheath button is powerful. Is it possible BCK’s DNA got there as a previous owner? Anything is possible.
Is it possible a theoretical “new” owner/murderer managed to handle & use that sheath without leaving any of their DNA? Again, anything is possible, but for me, that feels highly unlikely, MOO.
And when considering all the other known points you reviewed, the theory that BCK’s DNA was left on the sheath as a previous owner doesn’t feel reasonable to me. MOO
Of course, everything has to be presented in court with the defense having a chance to address.
I know this has been addressed in previous threads many times, & I apologize for asking again, but I’d appreciate it if one of our forensic WSers could again explain in general terms what’s involved in separating mixed DNA samples? How difficult/easy it is, how time-consuming or not it is, etc. Please feel free to link to a previous post rather than reinventing the wheel — I’m happy to read what’s already been shared but still haven’t mastered the Search function. TIA!
YES...
Could also be simple partial seizures, perceived as depersonalization, derealization or out-of-body experience. Problem is, that when person says, "I dissociate", five different people might be describing five different symptoms.